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When would you board someone else's boat??
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:00:37 -0400, "Don" wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Some years ago, a neighbor who had two dogs, a sheltie and a cocker spaniel, lost the sheltie to another neighbor's German shepherd. The two little dogs were in their own yard, kept there by training and by an "invisible" fence...one of those electronic fences. About a month later, the shepherd came back for another visit, and started going after the cocker spaniel. The spaniel owner came out and bashed in the skull of the shepherd with a shovel, and then dragged the carcass out to the middle of the road. All's well that ends well. I would've dragged the shepherd to the owner's home with the hope that his children were there to see it. But that's me. Sometimes I like more drama than other people. Drama? You call that drama? Puss. I would have dragged the dead animal over there, knocked on the door and when the owner answered, I would have beat his ass into next week with the dead carcass. I have absolutely no patience for someone that takes on the responsibility of another, and then abuses it. An ex-neighbor had a cat named *Streudal*, a big champagne colored cat that they let run loose through the neighborhood. I liked Streudal, him and I got along fine, he would fequently spend the day in my home-office lounging across the top of my Plotter in the sun. One night while going to the convenience store I saw Streudal splattered on the highway. It tore me up, bad. I went home and got a shovel, I intended to bury Streudal off the side of the road. While driving back to get the shovel I came up with another idea, one that might make a difference. I scooped Steudal up and put him in the back of my truck and drove home. I re-scooped Streudal out of my truck and rang the neighbors doorbell, interrupting their movie rental/pizza party, and when the dad answered the door I threw Streudal on their foyer floor. Their two kids were mortified, the dad was stunned, the wife was ready to faint. They moved about a month later. I hope I scared all of them for life, for seeing Streudal plattered on the road scarred me. Payback is a whore. And you're proud of this? You did this to an animal that you actually LIKED? Get a grip, asshole. It was a dead body. It was dead because of its owner. Like YOU, the neighbor didn't care. How did you get to be so stupid? |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:06:43 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Some years ago, a neighbor who had two dogs, a sheltie and a cocker spaniel, lost the sheltie to another neighbor's German shepherd. The two little dogs were in their own yard, kept there by training and by an "invisible" fence...one of those electronic fences. About a month later, the shepherd came back for another visit, and started going after the cocker spaniel. The spaniel owner came out and bashed in the skull of the shepherd with a shovel, and then dragged the carcass out to the middle of the road. All's well that ends well. I would've dragged the shepherd to the owner's home with the hope that his children were there to see it. But that's me. Sometimes I like more drama than other people. You're just a bully. You're an admitted coward. Deal with it. |
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I think your neighbor's neighbor was one sick dude.
"Don" wrote in message ... "Charles" wrote in message ... Don wrote: Drama? You call that drama? Puss. I would have dragged the dead animal over there, knocked on the door and when the owner answered, I would have beat his ass into next week with the dead carcass. I have absolutely no patience for someone that takes on the responsibility of another, and then abuses it. An ex-neighbor had a cat named *Streudal*, a big champagne colored cat that they let run loose through the neighborhood. I liked Streudal, him and I got along fine, he would fequently spend the day in my home-office lounging across the top of my Plotter in the sun. One night while going to the convenience store I saw Streudal splattered on the highway. It tore me up, bad. I went home and got a shovel, I intended to bury Streudal off the side of the road. While driving back to get the shovel I came up with another idea, one that might make a difference. I scooped Steudal up and put him in the back of my truck and drove home. I re-scooped Streudal out of my truck and rang the neighbors doorbell, interrupting their movie rental/pizza party, and when the dad answered the door I threw Streudal on their foyer floor. Their two kids were mortified, the dad was stunned, the wife was ready to faint. They moved about a month later. I hope I scared all of them for life, for seeing Streudal plattered on the road scarred me. Payback is a whore. Another truly sick idiot. What is your opinion of the neighbor? |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"John Smith" wrote in message news:Igrkc.3665$NI6.552454@attbi_s01... "Don" wrote in message ... Hey Dave, our yard is contained by a 6' high estate fence so that YOUR kids won't get their ****ing necks rung while trying to drown in my pool. I installed that fence as a favor to YOU, Dave, so that I won't have to go dig one of your eyeballs out and **** the socket because one of your unsupervised miscreants tried to escape your sorry ass and die in my pool. LOL You must be a wonderful neighbor. Because I spend thousands of dollars to keep neighbor kids from drowning in my pool? |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:17:23 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . To paraphrase the bible, "vengeance is mine, says the lord". I've often had bad things done to me in the past, by less than civilized people, only to find out later that some even worse thing happened to them. Coincidence? Maybe. But in any case, they got what they deserved. What goes around, comes around. God's Revenge. I knew this nonsense was lurking somewhere. It was just a matter of time before you tipped your hand (again). No wonder you are such a bitter angry man. You have no place for God in your heart. This boys delusions are unlimited. One more reason that he and his family should be killed. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... I grow a garden for pleasure, You don't sound like you are very happy if you constantly complain about everyone who doesn't share your ideal view of what it means to be a "good neighbor" 1) "everyone doesn't share", correctly defined: Neighbor says I have a nice garden. I offer to help them if they want to create one. They say "Nah...I don't think I have as much patience as you do". We have a beer and I send them home with some tomatoes. 2) "everyone doesn't share", INcorrectly defined: Neighbor is informed that their dog is damaging my garden. They do nothing to stop the problem. Oh....and let me shut down your "build a fence" bull**** once and for all. During my last two years in my house, I added certain vegetables to the front flower beds. Some vegetables are quite attractive alongside flowers. Our zoning laws prohibit building fences within a certain distance from the street. That leaves no options except to deal with the dogs in various ways, beginning with the legal system. Then put your garden in a place which allows fences. How long did it take you to look up that statute to use as yet another excuse? We put up a partial fence in the back so we didn't need to look at our neighbor's rusty swing set a dirty underwear on the laundry line. Every fence contractor we called explained the zoning law for our particular location, in case we were thinking of taking the fence further toward the front of the property. Any more stupid questions? Dave has no concept of what REAL neighbors are like. There is no such thing in his trailer park. Look at the context of his posts. He steals, he lies, he disrespects others rights, he is a miscreant. He has admitted all of these things, over and over. Dave is to be pitied, then killed, like the vermin he has admitted to being. |
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When would you board someone else's boat??
"John Smith" wrote in message news:gKDkc.2023$TD4.190377@attbi_s01... "Don" wrote in message ... It means you may get gang raped and then killed, ****tard. Don, Tell us what you really think. I would ask you that, but I already know that YOU don't think. YOU react, to what you've seen on TEEVEE. LOL |
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What was your opinion of the neighbor?
"John Smith" wrote in message news:3NDkc.2033$TD4.192085@attbi_s01... I think your neighbor's neighbor was one sick dude. "Don" wrote in message ... "Charles" wrote in message ... Don wrote: Drama? You call that drama? Puss. I would have dragged the dead animal over there, knocked on the door and when the owner answered, I would have beat his ass into next week with the dead carcass. I have absolutely no patience for someone that takes on the responsibility of another, and then abuses it. An ex-neighbor had a cat named *Streudal*, a big champagne colored cat that they let run loose through the neighborhood. I liked Streudal, him and I got along fine, he would fequently spend the day in my home-office lounging across the top of my Plotter in the sun. One night while going to the convenience store I saw Streudal splattered on the highway. It tore me up, bad. I went home and got a shovel, I intended to bury Streudal off the side of the road. While driving back to get the shovel I came up with another idea, one that might make a difference. I scooped Steudal up and put him in the back of my truck and drove home. I re-scooped Streudal out of my truck and rang the neighbors doorbell, interrupting their movie rental/pizza party, and when the dad answered the door I threw Streudal on their foyer floor. Their two kids were mortified, the dad was stunned, the wife was ready to faint. They moved about a month later. I hope I scared all of them for life, for seeing Streudal plattered on the road scarred me. Payback is a whore. Another truly sick idiot. What is your opinion of the neighbor? |
When would you board someone else's boat??
That he was a very smart person to move away.
"Don" wrote in message ... What was your opinion of the neighbor? "John Smith" wrote in message news:3NDkc.2033$TD4.192085@attbi_s01... I think your neighbor's neighbor was one sick dude. "Don" wrote in message ... "Charles" wrote in message ... Don wrote: Drama? You call that drama? Puss. I would have dragged the dead animal over there, knocked on the door and when the owner answered, I would have beat his ass into next week with the dead carcass. I have absolutely no patience for someone that takes on the responsibility of another, and then abuses it. An ex-neighbor had a cat named *Streudal*, a big champagne colored cat that they let run loose through the neighborhood. I liked Streudal, him and I got along fine, he would fequently spend the day in my home-office lounging across the top of my Plotter in the sun. One night while going to the convenience store I saw Streudal splattered on the highway. It tore me up, bad. I went home and got a shovel, I intended to bury Streudal off the side of the road. While driving back to get the shovel I came up with another idea, one that might make a difference. I scooped Steudal up and put him in the back of my truck and drove home. I re-scooped Streudal out of my truck and rang the neighbors doorbell, interrupting their movie rental/pizza party, and when the dad answered the door I threw Streudal on their foyer floor. Their two kids were mortified, the dad was stunned, the wife was ready to faint. They moved about a month later. I hope I scared all of them for life, for seeing Streudal plattered on the road scarred me. Payback is a whore. Another truly sick idiot. What is your opinion of the neighbor? |
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Thanks for offering support to people that abuse/kill domesticated animals.
I hope you get whats coming to you, soon. "John Smith" wrote in message news:w%Gkc.2718$_41.155487@attbi_s02... That he was a very smart person to move away. "Don" wrote in message ... What was your opinion of the neighbor? "John Smith" wrote in message news:3NDkc.2033$TD4.192085@attbi_s01... I think your neighbor's neighbor was one sick dude. "Don" wrote in message ... "Charles" wrote in message ... Don wrote: Drama? You call that drama? Puss. I would have dragged the dead animal over there, knocked on the door and when the owner answered, I would have beat his ass into next week with the dead carcass. I have absolutely no patience for someone that takes on the responsibility of another, and then abuses it. An ex-neighbor had a cat named *Streudal*, a big champagne colored cat that they let run loose through the neighborhood. I liked Streudal, him and I got along fine, he would fequently spend the day in my home-office lounging across the top of my Plotter in the sun. One night while going to the convenience store I saw Streudal splattered on the highway. It tore me up, bad. I went home and got a shovel, I intended to bury Streudal off the side of the road. While driving back to get the shovel I came up with another idea, one that might make a difference. I scooped Steudal up and put him in the back of my truck and drove home. I re-scooped Streudal out of my truck and rang the neighbors doorbell, interrupting their movie rental/pizza party, and when the dad answered the door I threw Streudal on their foyer floor. Their two kids were mortified, the dad was stunned, the wife was ready to faint. They moved about a month later. I hope I scared all of them for life, for seeing Streudal plattered on the road scarred me. Payback is a whore. Another truly sick idiot. What is your opinion of the neighbor? |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"Don" wrote in message ... The LAW says that pets and land are property and the owner has the right to defend his property with whatever defensive measures he deems appropriate. If you don't like it, then do something about it, moron. Don, what law says you can use whatever defensive measure one deems appropriate to protect his property? Do you believe the law allows you kill someone to defend your property? How about using a gun with a trip wire to defend your property. |
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"John Smith" wrote Do you believe the law allows you kill someone to defend your property? Of course. Don't you? Answer the question. |
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U.S. Penal Code does not allow the use of deadly force in the protection of
your property. Deadly force can only be used when a reasonable man feels someone's life is in eminent danger. The use of a trip wires to harm someone illegally entering your home will result in the owner being charged with either with aggravated assault or manslaughter if the person is killed. I also agree with the penal code. While it does not matter if you agree with the law or not, you will be found guilty. The world would be a better place if you were behind bars. "Don" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote Do you believe the law allows you kill someone to defend your property? Of course. Don't you? Answer the question. |
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"Don" wrote in message
... "John Smith" wrote Do you believe the law allows you kill someone to defend your property? Of course. Don't you? Answer the question. The key word above is "believe". You may interpret the law to mean that you may kill a person to defend your property, but in fact, that's false. You may kill someone inside your home, but not if they're outside bashing in your garbage can with a hammer. |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:36:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: A life is a life, regardless of whether it's useful to you or not. If you believe it's cruel to kill a dog, then you believe it's cruel to kill ANY animal unless it threatens your life. You should not be killing bugs because they annoy you or cows because you love steak. Then the obvious corollary to that logic then is if you can justify killing bugs, then you should be ok with killing people, since they are, after all just "Another life". So how many people have you killed? I choose not to kill people because for the most part, they can be dealt with in other ways, usually via reasoning, intimidation, fear, or a judiciously timed offer of a cold beer. But you choose to kill selected animals. Even after your attempt at an "all or nothing" logical approach to killing living things. Do you believe that you have the right to kill a dog that strays on your property, despite what the law may say to the contrary? Honestly, Dave, even if the law didn't explicitly allow it, and a specific set of conditions*** were met, I'd do it anyway. In other words, the law doesn't allow it. You're just a vigilante. We are not going to settle the "is it legal" question. Drop it. Suffice it to say that that with rare exceptions, the church committee approach to getting things done is a lame way of doing things. Of course, for someone who delegates so much responsibility to a deity, a committee is a natural thing. I'm part of society. I do NOT place value on a pet that violates private property. I think you'd be surprised at how many people feel the same way. In NY, it's illegal for a hunter to use dogs to "run" deer. Some still do it, though. Once those dogs are trained to do that, they do it even when the owner's not with them. Guess what DEC game wardens sometimes do with those dogs. BLAM....and walk away. Now those dogs are a feast for raccoons and a bunch of other happy scavengers. So, taking these last two comments of yours in perspective, you claim, on one hand, to be a member of society. Part of the responsibility of being a member of society is consensus building, and harmony in action. But you've made it abundantly clear that when it comes to certain matters, you are more than willing to fly in the face of society and play by your own rules, when it suits you. In other words, you're a hypocrite You really need to live a wider life, Dave. You spend too much time with TV. I rarely watch TV. Why would you think that I do? I find reality (REAL reality) much more interesting...... Dave |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:04:57 -0400, Charles
wrote: Don wrote: Drama? You call that drama? Puss. I would have dragged the dead animal over there, knocked on the door and when the owner answered, I would have beat his ass into next week with the dead carcass. I have absolutely no patience for someone that takes on the responsibility of another, and then abuses it. An ex-neighbor had a cat named *Streudal*, a big champagne colored cat that they let run loose through the neighborhood. I liked Streudal, him and I got along fine, he would fequently spend the day in my home-office lounging across the top of my Plotter in the sun. One night while going to the convenience store I saw Streudal splattered on the highway. It tore me up, bad. I went home and got a shovel, I intended to bury Streudal off the side of the road. While driving back to get the shovel I came up with another idea, one that might make a difference. I scooped Steudal up and put him in the back of my truck and drove home. I re-scooped Streudal out of my truck and rang the neighbors doorbell, interrupting their movie rental/pizza party, and when the dad answered the door I threw Streudal on their foyer floor. Their two kids were mortified, the dad was stunned, the wife was ready to faint. They moved about a month later. I hope I scared all of them for life, for seeing Streudal plattered on the road scarred me. Payback is a whore. Another truly sick idiot. The sad part is he thinks that HE'S the one who has somehow been wronged in this situation. Dave |
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message
... On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:36:56 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: A life is a life, regardless of whether it's useful to you or not. If you believe it's cruel to kill a dog, then you believe it's cruel to kill ANY animal unless it threatens your life. You should not be killing bugs because they annoy you or cows because you love steak. Then the obvious corollary to that logic then is if you can justify killing bugs, then you should be ok with killing people, since they are, after all just "Another life". So how many people have you killed? I choose not to kill people because for the most part, they can be dealt with in other ways, usually via reasoning, intimidation, fear, or a judiciously timed offer of a cold beer. But you choose to kill selected animals. Even after your attempt at an "all or nothing" logical approach to killing living things. Do you believe that you have the right to kill a dog that strays on your property, despite what the law may say to the contrary? Honestly, Dave, even if the law didn't explicitly allow it, and a specific set of conditions*** were met, I'd do it anyway. In other words, the law doesn't allow it. You're just a vigilante. We are not going to settle the "is it legal" question. Drop it. Suffice it to say that that with rare exceptions, the church committee approach to getting things done is a lame way of doing things. Of course, for someone who delegates so much responsibility to a deity, a committee is a natural thing. I'm part of society. I do NOT place value on a pet that violates private property. I think you'd be surprised at how many people feel the same way. In NY, it's illegal for a hunter to use dogs to "run" deer. Some still do it, though. Once those dogs are trained to do that, they do it even when the owner's not with them. Guess what DEC game wardens sometimes do with those dogs. BLAM....and walk away. Now those dogs are a feast for raccoons and a bunch of other happy scavengers. So, taking these last two comments of yours in perspective, you claim, on one hand, to be a member of society. Part of the responsibility of being a member of society is consensus building, and harmony in action. But you've made it abundantly clear that when it comes to certain matters, you are more than willing to fly in the face of society and play by your own rules, when it suits you. In other words, you're a hypocrite No, Dave. I don't live by a rigid set of rules. I'm flexible. Just like DEC game wardens. You really need to live a wider life, Dave. You spend too much time with TV. I rarely watch TV. Why would you think that I do? I find reality (REAL reality) much more interesting...... You watch courtroom dramas on television. That's already too much. |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:39:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:00:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:58:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Frankly, I'm not sure, but that wasn't the point. Then what is? Dave A previous message mentioned a vanishing cat. That seemed OK with you. So, what difference does it make HOW a pet vanishes, whether it's whisked away by animal control to place where it will likely be euthanized eventually, or if it's flattened by a car? Gone is gone. The difference is intent, and whether or not the action was sanctioned by the law. Dave That would not change how the family felt about losing the pet. Gone is gone. Ok, you like using hypothetical examples, so here's one. Would you feel differently knowing that a loved one was killed in a car accident, or by some gang banger looking to score some dope? Dave |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 22:15:19 -0400, "Don"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:06:43 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Some years ago, a neighbor who had two dogs, a sheltie and a cocker spaniel, lost the sheltie to another neighbor's German shepherd. The two little dogs were in their own yard, kept there by training and by an "invisible" fence...one of those electronic fences. About a month later, the shepherd came back for another visit, and started going after the cocker spaniel. The spaniel owner came out and bashed in the skull of the shepherd with a shovel, and then dragged the carcass out to the middle of the road. All's well that ends well. I would've dragged the shepherd to the owner's home with the hope that his children were there to see it. But that's me. Sometimes I like more drama than other people. You're just a bully. You're an admitted coward. Deal with it. Coward? For adhering to the principles of morality and abiding by the statutes of law? If you think killing an otherwise harmless animal who defecates on your yard make you brave, you are in serious need of some real world experiences. I may not kill a animal who dumps on my yard, but try coming inside my house and harming my family and we'll see who the real coward is..... Dave |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:44:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . I don't have a problem with you calling animal control to complain about a neighbor's pet and, if they feel that your complaint is reasonable, they respond and remove the animal. I do have a problem with you going above the law and doing it yourself. That's the long and short of it. I'm just getting the dog to the same point it will reach, but a week or a month sooner. You don't know that, and it's not your choice to make. You might be justified in killing a neighbor's dog if that dog attacks you. But not if it simply craps on you lawn. It is that fundamental difference which you can't seem to resolve. In either case, it's the result of a dog owner who doesn't give a damn about his neighbors. The payback should be equal. Then go take a dump on your neighbor's yard. THEN the payback would be equal. Dave |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:13:30 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . You can also use their t-shirts as handles to escort the kids back to their parents and discuss the issue with them. I would file that under #1 above. Have you had to deal with some parents lately? I don't know about in your area, but when I was growing up and another adult lodged a complaint about me, it was taken as gospel truth and I was immediately and severely punished. Today, if you go to a parent to complain about their kid, they cop a "My kid's a angel, you must be mistaken" attitude. My next door neighbor, in my old neighborhood, had two kids who made a habit of migrating to my yard to play their various sports, since my yard was clear and significantly larger. I had to shoe them away on almost a daily basis. One day, when I came home and found them playing yet again, I drove up on the yard with my truck and chased them, in the hope that they'd now think I was crazy and fear to return. I also yelled after them and I used some words which I probably shouldn't have. But I was ****ed. That was many years ago, before I learned how to effectively manage anger. The next thing I know, the kids' dad comes over to give me a tongue lashing. And, get this, he wasn't so upset that I had chased them away with my truck. He was upset with the words that I used. When I told him that I didn't want them on my yard, he denied that they were there. I was floored. I asked him how was it then that I was in the position to chase them down with my truck and shout after them if they weren't there? Needless to say, this conversation didn't accomplish much. In fact I would frequently catch not only the kids, but the father joining in for games on my yard. The problem was finally solved when I called the police and had them give him a talking to. Maybe I should've shot them all huh? Oh, wait, that's only an option if they are dogs right? Dave Why didn't you want those kids in your yard? Ah, here it comes......... Well, why not, you're entertaining if nothing else.... I didn't want them for a multitude of reasons. In today's liberal mindset of responsibility deflection, I can get sued if one of these little miscreants plays on my yard and then hurts himself. Then there is the wear and tear on my yard. Not that I'm a yard geek, but I don't want spots of bare ground corresponding to the bases in a baseball diamond showing through. Then there is the chance that an errant fly ball will hit some piece of my "stuff" and cause damage. Then there was the fact that I just didn't like those smart ass sneaky kids. Kids who had a bit more respect might have gotten a little more leniency. Dave |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:14:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:58:48 -0400, "Don" wrote: If someone (or many someones) makes a habit of cutting across your lawn shred We're not talking about someone cutting across your yard, Dave. How else would he get there? Pay attention. Answer the question directly. Quit stalling and fidgeting, if you're capable. You have the legal means at your disposal to address trespassing issues. If these avenues do not solve the problem, you can only do so much to prevent continued transgressions. Putting up a fence would solve the problem. Dave In many towns, including mine, zoning laws prohibit the installation of fences within a certain distance of the front property line. That often leaves 1/3 to 1/2 of the front vulnerable. Then what? A thick hedge. Dave |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:32:28 -0400, "Don"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:58:48 -0400, "Don" wrote: If someone (or many someones) makes a habit of cutting across your lawn shred We're not talking about someone cutting across your yard, Dave. How else would he get there? Pay attention. Answer the question directly. Quit stalling and fidgeting, if you're capable. You have the legal means at your disposal to address trespassing issues. If these avenues do not solve the problem, you can only do so much to prevent continued transgressions. Putting up a fence would solve the problem. A punch in the face would solve the problem too, and not be so expensive. Oh, I don't know. By the time you got through with the assault charges and then the civil lawsuit which would likely result, it might end up being MORE expensive. You need to learn that you do not have the right to assault people, no matter how wronged you think you were. Dave |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:27:39 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: Dave rarely answers questions. Oh, I'm a Dave handler from WAY back. If I wasn't an extremely fast typist, I wouldn't have time to toy with him. You should thank me for teaching you the principles of logic, and how the world outside of "Dougville" actually lives. Dave |
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On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:04:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: Who's responsibility is it to clean up the droppings from the Canadian Geese, Deer, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Foxes, Wild Turkey, Rabbits, Occasional bears, Raccoons, Possums, Various species of birds, etc? Do kids only pick up dog poop? When you come up with a good answer for that, then maybe I'll entertain your fantasy. Stupid question. NOBODY can control thousands of wild animals. But dog owners can control their dogs and clean up after them. Not a stupid question, but a stupid rule. What difference would it make in the grand scheme of things if the only turds removed, in a collection of many, were the dog's? Would the rest of them magically disappears? Does the fact that some of us like to pretend that they aren't really there, change the fact that they really are? Have you ever seen the mess that can be left after a flock of Geese roam an area for a while? Maybe you should feel lucky that an occasional dog dropping is your only concern. Dave |
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message
... Maybe I should've shot them all huh? Oh, wait, that's only an option if they are dogs right? Dave Why didn't you want those kids in your yard? Ah, here it comes......... Well, why not, you're entertaining if nothing else.... I didn't want them for a multitude of reasons. Then there is the wear and tear on my yard. Not that I'm a yard geek, but I don't want spots of bare ground corresponding to the bases in a baseball diamond showing through. You should lighten up, Dave. Lots of people put up with a little bit of wear on their lawns. It's even less of a problem than dog ****, or a damaged row of 1" high lettuce seedlings that you won't have a chance to plant again until next spring. |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"Dave Hall" wrote in message
... On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:14:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:58:48 -0400, "Don" wrote: If someone (or many someones) makes a habit of cutting across your lawn shred We're not talking about someone cutting across your yard, Dave. How else would he get there? Pay attention. Answer the question directly. Quit stalling and fidgeting, if you're capable. You have the legal means at your disposal to address trespassing issues. If these avenues do not solve the problem, you can only do so much to prevent continued transgressions. Putting up a fence would solve the problem. Dave In many towns, including mine, zoning laws prohibit the installation of fences within a certain distance of the front property line. That often leaves 1/3 to 1/2 of the front vulnerable. Then what? A thick hedge. Dave And what if a hedge doesn't fit my landscaping scheme? |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"Dave Hall" wrote in message
... On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 18:04:51 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Who's responsibility is it to clean up the droppings from the Canadian Geese, Deer, Squirrels, Chipmunks, Foxes, Wild Turkey, Rabbits, Occasional bears, Raccoons, Possums, Various species of birds, etc? Do kids only pick up dog poop? When you come up with a good answer for that, then maybe I'll entertain your fantasy. Stupid question. NOBODY can control thousands of wild animals. But dog owners can control their dogs and clean up after them. Not a stupid question, but a stupid rule. What difference would it make in the grand scheme of things if the only turds removed, in a collection of many, were the dog's? Would the rest of them magically disappears? Does the fact that some of us like to pretend that they aren't really there, change the fact that they really are? Have you ever seen the mess that can be left after a flock of Geese roam an area for a while? Maybe you should feel lucky that an occasional dog dropping is your only concern. Dave I never had multitudes of wild animals crapping on my property. Just squirrels, whose turds seem to be invisible, one cat, who buried them someplace where they never caused a problem, and quite a few dogs. If I lived in the Adirondacks and deer were a problem, I would've accepted the fact of life that you have to coexist with deer and whatever else comes along. |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"Dave Hall" wrote in message
... On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:39:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:00:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:58:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Frankly, I'm not sure, but that wasn't the point. Then what is? Dave A previous message mentioned a vanishing cat. That seemed OK with you. So, what difference does it make HOW a pet vanishes, whether it's whisked away by animal control to place where it will likely be euthanized eventually, or if it's flattened by a car? Gone is gone. The difference is intent, and whether or not the action was sanctioned by the law. Dave That would not change how the family felt about losing the pet. Gone is gone. Ok, you like using hypothetical examples, so here's one. Would you feel differently knowing that a loved one was killed in a car accident, or by some gang banger looking to score some dope? Dave Identical. Gone is gone. |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:44:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . I don't have a problem with you calling animal control to complain about a neighbor's pet and, if they feel that your complaint is reasonable, they respond and remove the animal. I do have a problem with you going above the law and doing it yourself. That's the long and short of it. I'm just getting the dog to the same point it will reach, but a week or a month sooner. You don't know that, and it's not your choice to make. You might be justified in killing a neighbor's dog if that dog attacks you. But not if it simply craps on you lawn. It is that fundamental difference which you can't seem to resolve. In either case, it's the result of a dog owner who doesn't give a damn about his neighbors. The payback should be equal. Then go take a dump on your neighbor's yard. THEN the payback would be equal. No. That would be childish and disgusting, and an innocent person might step in it. And, of course, the dog would still exist. |
When would you board someone else's boat??
Doug Kanter wrote:
And what if a hedge doesn't fit my landscaping scheme? But Doug, you're missing the point... you don't have the right to decide what to do with your property, nor the right to protect your property. Dave Hall (and his like-minded legion of fascist whackos) has (have) the right to impose their ideals and their values on you. You must conform, you must not try to get them to accept any responsibility for their actions... or their kids, or their pets, etc etc. If his dogs craps on your lawn, it is the will of Allah... I mean, it's the way Nature meant it to be. Accept it and be happy. Or else! DSK |
When would you board someone else's boat??
"DSK" wrote in message . .. Doug Kanter wrote: And what if a hedge doesn't fit my landscaping scheme? But Doug, you're missing the point... you don't have the right to decide what to do with your property, nor the right to protect your property. Dave Hall (and his like-minded legion of fascist whackos) has (have) the right to impose their ideals and their values on you. You must conform, you must not try to get them to accept any responsibility for their actions... or their kids, or their pets, etc etc. If his dogs craps on your lawn, it is the will of Allah... I mean, it's the way Nature meant it to be. Accept it and be happy. Or else! DSK Yeah....I guess. How could I have been so wrong? |
When would you board someone else's boat??
Doug Kanter wrote:
Yeah....I guess. How could I have been so wrong? It's not your fault, man. You've been seduced by those dadgum libby-rull traitor sumbidges... prolly starting 'way back in grade school... DSK |
When would you board someone else's boat??
On Mon, 03 May 2004 10:48:55 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: I'm part of society. I do NOT place value on a pet that violates private property. I think you'd be surprised at how many people feel the same way. In NY, it's illegal for a hunter to use dogs to "run" deer. Some still do it, though. Once those dogs are trained to do that, they do it even when the owner's not with them. Guess what DEC game wardens sometimes do with those dogs. BLAM....and walk away. Now those dogs are a feast for raccoons and a bunch of other happy scavengers. So, taking these last two comments of yours in perspective, you claim, on one hand, to be a member of society. Part of the responsibility of being a member of society is consensus building, and harmony in action. But you've made it abundantly clear that when it comes to certain matters, you are more than willing to fly in the face of society and play by your own rules, when it suits you. In other words, you're a hypocrite No, Dave. I don't live by a rigid set of rules. I'm flexible. Just like DEC game wardens. I doubt if the law allows you such broad "flexibility"...... You really need to live a wider life, Dave. You spend too much time with TV. I rarely watch TV. Why would you think that I do? I find reality (REAL reality) much more interesting...... You watch courtroom dramas on television. That's already too much. I watch televised ACTUAL court cases. A far different thing than a "drama". Dave |
When would you board someone else's boat??
On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:10:37 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:39:22 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:00:50 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 19:58:40 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Frankly, I'm not sure, but that wasn't the point. Then what is? Dave A previous message mentioned a vanishing cat. That seemed OK with you. So, what difference does it make HOW a pet vanishes, whether it's whisked away by animal control to place where it will likely be euthanized eventually, or if it's flattened by a car? Gone is gone. The difference is intent, and whether or not the action was sanctioned by the law. Dave That would not change how the family felt about losing the pet. Gone is gone. Ok, you like using hypothetical examples, so here's one. Would you feel differently knowing that a loved one was killed in a car accident, or by some gang banger looking to score some dope? Dave Identical. Gone is gone. So you would not feel the slightest bit more resentment toward someone who was responsible for deliberately causing that loved one's death over a purely accidental scenario where no one was responsible? Dave |
When would you board someone else's boat??
On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:11:54 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 15:44:29 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . I don't have a problem with you calling animal control to complain about a neighbor's pet and, if they feel that your complaint is reasonable, they respond and remove the animal. I do have a problem with you going above the law and doing it yourself. That's the long and short of it. I'm just getting the dog to the same point it will reach, but a week or a month sooner. You don't know that, and it's not your choice to make. You might be justified in killing a neighbor's dog if that dog attacks you. But not if it simply craps on you lawn. It is that fundamental difference which you can't seem to resolve. In either case, it's the result of a dog owner who doesn't give a damn about his neighbors. The payback should be equal. Then go take a dump on your neighbor's yard. THEN the payback would be equal. No. That would be childish and disgusting, But killing someone's pet in order to "teach them a lesson" is not? Dave |
When would you board someone else's boat??
On Mon, 03 May 2004 13:04:33 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . Maybe I should've shot them all huh? Oh, wait, that's only an option if they are dogs right? Dave Why didn't you want those kids in your yard? Ah, here it comes......... Well, why not, you're entertaining if nothing else.... I didn't want them for a multitude of reasons. Then there is the wear and tear on my yard. Not that I'm a yard geek, but I don't want spots of bare ground corresponding to the bases in a baseball diamond showing through. You should lighten up, Dave. Lots of people put up with a little bit of wear on their lawns. It's even less of a problem than dog ****, or a damaged row of 1" high lettuce seedlings that you won't have a chance to plant again until next spring. What, no comment on the liability aspect? You are transparently selective when it comes to what you respond to. Ironically, one of my "defenses" against these little miscreants was to tie the dog up in that area. Then when the little "tykes" tried to play ball, they were stepping in all sorts of "poop". Nothing like a face first slide into first with a pile in your path......... Dave |
When would you board someone else's boat??
On Mon, 03 May 2004 09:51:19 -0400, DSK wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote: And what if a hedge doesn't fit my landscaping scheme? But Doug, you're missing the point... you don't have the right to decide what to do with your property, nor the right to protect your property. So are you a gun-toting anarchist too? You only obey the laws which are in your favor? Dave Hall (and his like-minded legion of fascist whackos) has (have) the right to impose their ideals and their values on you. No, you are confusing me with a liberal. I believe in live and let live. You must conform, In order for a society to exist, there has to be a certain amount of conformity. If everyone take the law into their own hands what would we have? Dave |
When would you board someone else's boat??
No. That would be childish and disgusting,
Dave Hall wrote: But killing someone's pet in order to "teach them a lesson" is not? This is a new high water mark in stupidity, even for you, Dave. Did anybody say anything about "teaching them a lesson?" No. An animal that destroys property can, under many circustances, be killed by the property owner. This is in order to prevent further damage to his property. It comes under the heading of "property rights" and could easily be equated with defending one's home against robbers. The fact that the animal is a pet does not change the circumstances, except that the owner of the animal has declared himself to be responsible for the animal, then abdicated his responsibility. This explanation might have too many big words for you, Dave, but it doesn't matter since you appear to be determined to never ever learn a single fact in this world. DSK |
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