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Doug Kanter April 16th 04 06:16 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
"Bob D." wrote in message
...

Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people

got
back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of

****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in

the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


While I'm guessing Dougs statement was meant to be funny, I'd have to say
it holds alot of truth. Some of these people are like dogs who **** on
the carpet after just being let out. Disapproving looks and subtle
comments won't work, you have to rub their nose in their **** in hopes
that they get the point.



Actually, I'm completely serious. Not trying to be funny at all. Look at it
this way: I began teaching my son to be a good neighbor when he was old
enough to carry on a discussion. Now he's 14 and he realizes it takes
absolutely zero effort to live harmoniously (except for the farting contests
he and his pals conduct in my living room). But, when you run across a
scumbag who pretends his **** don't stink, you can be sure his parents
didn't say one word to him about living among other people. Result: You have
to "help" the scumbag overcome 18+ years of neglect in the wink of an eye.
This is not to say that I won't give someone one opportunity to learn The
Good Way, but one is my limit.



John H April 16th 04 06:23 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 11:20:21 -0400, (Bob D.) wrote:

In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...


Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got

back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of ****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


While I'm guessing Dougs statement was meant to be funny, I'd have to say
it holds alot of truth. Some of these people are like dogs who **** on
the carpet after just being let out. Disapproving looks and subtle
comments won't work, you have to rub their nose in their **** in hopes
that they get the point.

Obviously in the case of guys stereo it wasn't intentional, so making
things difficult on them isn't necessarily the right tact. Assuming it
was a mistake, I would have contacted the marina manager stating my
intentions. If or when the owner showed up I would *hope* as boaters they
would share a similar mindsets that boaters as a group are to be trusted
(at least where I come from), be willing to listen to an explanation why I
boarded, and understand that explanation, knowing that they did something
to cause the situation. If not they can verify my story with the marina.

If they persists in staying in a ****ing contest, then I'll do what needs
to be done to instill better consideration and reasoning. If you have to
be "cruel to be kind", perhaps I'll resort to "lead pipe kindness" :^)

In Doug's case, with the woman at the car dealership it's a tough call.
Obviously the woman was not "well bred" as she is portrayed as devoid of
common sense, maternal instincts, or reasoning. Rather attempt to see
Doug's point and say Thank You, she chose to stay ****y. What to do next
time? Choose to let Darwin's theory take it course, and the kid suffer
because his parent is a ****head? Or do the right thing, save the kid, be
ridiculed by the parent, while the kid grows up to be another
inconsiderate ****head. If we could go back in time would we find that
someone had saved Adolph Hitler from falling off a truck roof, or Saddam
Hussein from the back of a camel. Hmmmmm...... tough call!

Thankfully, it isn't too often, but I've seen some ****ty things that our
fellow boaters do. Besides the rude behavior I've cited before, there was
one time when someone pulled int the Put-in-Bay Yacht Club acting like
their **** didn't stink. I think they were a group of college kids
borrowing dad's boat and using his membership for a dock reservation. Not
only were they rude and uncourteous, but they had the nerve to unplug
another boaters shore power, because they needed to plug into two outlets
so they could run their boats AC electrical as well as their air
conditioner. Thankfully enough of the people were outraged that the
marina manager for the yacht club told them politely that their
reservation for later in the year would not be honored. I only hope that
later reservation was for dad, and that he was able to drive the point
home about being considerate too other boaters (assuming he has any
consideration himself).

Bob Dimond


Contacting the marina manager is the best idea yet. I would expect mine to
either come turn the radio down immediately or have someone do it.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Paul Schilter April 16th 04 10:32 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
John H,
I agree with your comment, but wouldn't it have been a lot more
expedient to top post it? A two word comment in my opinion is a very good
reason to top post.
Paul

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:09:44 GMT, Terry Spragg


wrote:

Bob D. wrote:

Quick question along these lines, when is it okay to fire your flare

gun
into somone elses bilge, or at least urinate upon their deck?

Two years ago, I was at Put-in-Bay sleeping one off at my favorite
facility, when at 7:30am one Sunday this "gentleman" started his go

fast
boat which had twin unmuffled engines.

I was along the wall, the marina was packed, so this guy was

perpendicular
to me along the pier squeezed between me and the boat in front of him.
His exhaust was about one foot away from the starboard side of my boat
hull.

Needless to say when he started the engine, I sprang up and almost

crapped
my pants. Now I'll admit I am prejudiced against loud go fast boats,

as
I don't personally see the use in the excess noise (same opinion of

loud
harleys), but I've never begrudged someone over it. If its loud and
moving into my quiet zone, it will eventually move out of earshot and

it's
no longer a problem. And even though it's 7:30am, he still has to

start
his boat to leave, right?

Unfortunately this ****head didn't have a clue about courtesy and

decided
he needed to start his engines long before unsecuring his spring lines,

or
taking in his power line, water hose, or even his morning reign on the
porcelin throne. I guess he needed those hi performance ponies good

and
warm huh? TWENTY FIVE MINUTES LATER, bozo the boater pulled out of the
marina.

By this time I couldn't get back to sleep as all I could her afterwards
were my friends and neighbors awake, talking about what a flamming

asshole
this guy was.

What would your reaction be?

Bob Dimond



I would consider writing a gentle, threatening note signed "an
x-friend" warning him that his "lack of consideration" for other
persons' quiet enjoyment of their property could become reciprocal,
and surreptitiously gluing it to his windscreen with soluable glue
and a long handled applicator some lonely 4 AM. Don't go aboard. I
might also leave a rotton fish or bag of dog **** or a rotton egg or
six on his deck, not broken, just a warning gift. Use rubber gloves
and cut out words from some magazine or newspaper, and burn the book
with the holes in it. Don't cause any damage to his boat.

You could get several niegbours to sue him in small claims court
over it, a week or so apart. Expect to lose, but you might get lucky.

Get a really crappy sounding stereo turned up too loud to wake him
up to Yoko Ono at 6 AM a couple of times, he'll enjoy that. Make
sure your niegbours all laugh and applaud and toast to him with
grapefruit and liqueurs as soon as he comes on deck to complain.
They could all hold up score cards, like 2.3, 4.1, 6.8, etc. You
could make it into a really nice breakfast party. Tape it all and
send it to funniest videos, he'll look good on TV, you'll get some
money.

No point in politely advising him of your fellow boaters' feelings
in the presence of a witness or two, the clod would just go overly
defensive, right? It would be really nice if the ignorant asshole
would idle out of the slip under trolling motor power and start his
sonic warp drive up out side the breakwater if leaving early, but he
would never agree until he had suffered as you did.

You could clean a few guns where he could see you doing it, while
muttering insanely about sonic vandals and drinking heavily from a
whiskey bottle full of tea beside a bag of sugar. Tip a little sugar
into the bottle from time to time. Don't speak to him, just yell at
your "crew" below decks about inconsiderate assholes, while ignoring
him.

Print this out (minus my name, please), or something similar and
tell him someone asked you to give it to him, and that your
niegbours all voted it was the best thing to do, because you all did
not really want to upset him unneccessarily. Maybe they will all
sign it.

Or, just forgive him once or twice and pray for him.

Judge Judy would be on your side, so long as you did not instigate
violence or real damage. She hates noisy, inconsiderate people, too.

There is a site somewhere concerning really nasty dirty tricks, some
of which are essentially harmless, I don't remember the URL.

Terry K


Nicely said!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!




Paul Schilter April 16th 04 10:45 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
Gene,
A proponent of tough love? Ya, sometimes Darwin should have his chance.
:-)
Paul

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
snipped
Typical southern response to this is quite effective and not intrusive
to a-hole parents..... let kid crash onto concrete floor and say,
"Damn, bet that hurt...... bet you won't try *that* again...
heh-heh...."


Maybe "Mom" will learn something, too..... junior is sure to....


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Henry Blackmoore April 16th 04 11:16 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , (Bob D.) wrote:


By this time I couldn't get back to sleep as all I could her afterwards
were my friends and neighbors awake, talking about what a flamming asshole
this guy was.

What would your reaction be?

Bob Dimond


ever see the hand grenade that Tony Soprano keeps in a hidden
bookshelf thingie?


Henry Blackmoore April 16th 04 11:28 PM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Bob D." wrote in message
...

I guess he needed those hi performance ponies good and
warm huh? TWENTY FIVE MINUTES LATER, bozo the boater pulled out of the
marina.

By this time I couldn't get back to sleep as all I could her afterwards
were my friends and neighbors awake, talking about what a flamming asshole
this guy was.

What would your reaction be?

Bob Dimond


I'd write down the name & reg numbers of boats like that, for two reasons.
First, report him to the marina's manager. Second, if you ever run across
that same boat in an emergency, you can ignore its owner's calls for help,
and do whatever you can to make his boat sink, burn or crash upon the rocks
more quickly. There's an entire class of people who simply don't deserve to
continue their existence.


You would ignore somebody in an emergency over petty-ass bull**** and help
their boat sink, burn or crash? Really?

And yet you tried to prove that I am ignorant in some earlier debates with
you?

Hoo boy. You are a real piece of work!

Thank gawd not all folks are like you.

I certainly can understand being a little miffed at the circumstances
involving the docking and resulting loud noise however you are not God and you
don't get to pick and choose who doesn't "deserve to continue their
existance". Only a real heartless lout would ignore somebody in distress if
they could lend assistance. Not only that it is the RULE of the Sea to lend
assistance.

Hopefully you don't really behave this way and are having a bad day and
blowing off some steam? If not then you don't deserve to be called a
boater or a seaman.







Henry Blackmoore April 16th 04 11:31 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
om...


Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got

back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of ****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


And who gets to be the judge of just what is and isn't "inconsiderate"
behavior? You?

What a piece of work you are.

Don White, folks like this are one reason for not going anywhere without a
firearm....


Henry Blackmoore April 16th 04 11:43 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , (Bob D.) wrote:

In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
m...


Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people got

back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of ****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


While I'm guessing Dougs statement was meant to be funny,


It didn't appear to be tongue-in-cheek or posted in jest. Hopefully he is
just kidding. Because he sure sounds disturbed.

I'd have to say
it holds alot of truth. Some of these people are like dogs who **** on
the carpet after just being let out. Disapproving looks and subtle
comments won't work, you have to rub their nose in their **** in hopes
that they get the point.


Really? That is how you train your dogs? I have three dogs and I never
have had to resort to such roguish behavior. Don't know much about dogs
I guess? A dog isn't going to be able to fathom why you are doing such a
dirty deed.


Obviously in the case of guys stereo it wasn't intentional, so making
things difficult on them isn't necessarily the right tact. Assuming it
was a mistake, I would have contacted the marina manager stating my
intentions. If or when the owner showed up I would *hope* as boaters they
would share a similar mindsets that boaters as a group are to be trusted
(at least where I come from), be willing to listen to an explanation why I
boarded, and understand that explanation, knowing that they did something
to cause the situation. If not they can verify my story with the marina.

If they persists in staying in a ****ing contest, then I'll do what needs
to be done to instill better consideration and reasoning. If you have to
be "cruel to be kind", perhaps I'll resort to "lead pipe kindness" :^)


Another reason why over 40 states have concealed carry laws in effect.
It is getting to be very dangerous with all the Charles Bronson types
running amok out there.

One day you will run into somebody with a CCL that doesn't appreciate getting
lead-piped or any other of your acts of cruelty.




Henry Blackmoore April 16th 04 11:45 PM

When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , "Doug Kanter" wrote:

"Bob D." wrote in message
...

Why not lighten up a little, and listen to the music until the people

got
back?

Because inconsiderate people make a habit of leaving behind piles of

****
for others to deal with. The behavior should be crushed instantly and in

the
most horrifying, shocking and insulting ways.


While I'm guessing Dougs statement was meant to be funny, I'd have to say
it holds alot of truth. Some of these people are like dogs who **** on
the carpet after just being let out. Disapproving looks and subtle
comments won't work, you have to rub their nose in their **** in hopes
that they get the point.



Actually, I'm completely serious. Not trying to be funny at all. Look at it
this way: I began teaching my son to be a good neighbor when he was old
enough to carry on a discussion. Now he's 14 and he realizes it takes
absolutely zero effort to live harmoniously (except for the farting contests
he and his pals conduct in my living room). But, when you run across a
scumbag who pretends his **** don't stink, you can be sure his parents
didn't say one word to him about living among other people. Result: You have
to "help" the scumbag overcome 18+ years of neglect in the wink of an eye.
This is not to say that I won't give someone one opportunity to learn The
Good Way, but one is my limit.


So let the "scumbag's" boat sink and they can drown right Dougie?
Why not just kill em' all and let God sort em' out eh?




Henry Blackmoore April 17th 04 12:40 AM

When to shoot a falre into someone elses bilge WAS: When would you board someone else's boat??
 
In article , "Paul Schilter" paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

John H,
I agree with your comment, but wouldn't it have been a lot more
expedient to top post it? A two word comment in my opinion is a very good
reason to top post.
Paul


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