"Calif Bill" wrote in message hlink.net...
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Bob Marx wrote:
Why?
50% on the 225 I was going to buy At only 3 yrs old?


If you think Honda & Yamaha are bad for depreciation you should see
what a used Ficht or optimax is worth, assuming anyone will buy them at
all:-)


K

Have any real data to back your wild allegations up, or just spewing
crap out of your blow hole, as usual?

You got any data? Look at the discounts that dealers were offering. Look
at the questions of reliability. The perception of the Ficht was they were
failing. And that perception leads to a heavy discount when selling. Plus
all the questions that were on this board and all the fishing / boating
boards about parts availability. That in and of itself lowers the price.
If I was in the market for a used O/B I would look at Yami, and Hondas, and
Merc's over the OMC, just because of the perception.

Here's some data - Last fall when J/E's road show stopped at my local
dealer I was quoted a price of $14,700 plus controls, prop and
installation and an 04 225 E-Tec/E-Rude. Meanwhile the Local Yamaha
dealer quoted me 15,800 on a 250 HPDI and 16,000 on a 225 4-Stroke.
This fall I got prices between 15K & 16K on the Yammy's, but I've been
watching the Boat Shopper ads for the E-Rude go from 13,900 in the
spring, thru 12,900, 12,500, and 11,995 in the summer and 10,500 in
the fall to $9995 a few weeks ago!!

As I've said here before, I know some folks that won't even think of
buying a used boat w/a late 90's early 00's Johnson or Evinrude, even
if its Carb'ed, and even more that won't touch a FICHT. You can argue
about whether thats fair, but fair or not a smaller buyer base measn a
harder sell and a lower price.

FishFan (proud owner of an 89 Johnson)

"Calif Bill" wrote in message hlink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
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K Smith wrote in message
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Bob Marx wrote:
Why?
50% on the 225 I was going to buy At only 3 yrs old?


If you think Honda & Yamaha are bad for depreciation you should see
what a used Ficht or optimax is worth, assuming anyone will buy them at
all:-)


K

Have any real data to back your wild allegations up, or just spewing
crap out of your blow hole, as usual?

You got any data?

There's tons of data out there. Can I suggest JD Powers owner
satisfaction surveys? But, I don't understand why you are asking ME
for data. Did I make any allegations?

"basskisser" wrote in message
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But, I don't understand why you are asking ME
for data. Did I make any allegations?

Sure you did. You claimed Yamaha outboards are made in the US with union
labor. Guess what? They're not.

"basskisser" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
hlink.net...
"basskisser" wrote in message
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K Smith wrote in message
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Bob Marx wrote:
Why?
50% on the 225 I was going to buy At only 3 yrs old?


If you think Honda & Yamaha are bad for depreciation you should see
what a used Ficht or optimax is worth, assuming anyone will buy them
at
all:-)


K

Have any real data to back your wild allegations up, or just spewing
crap out of your blow hole, as usual?

You got any data?

There's tons of data out there. Can I suggest JD Powers owner
satisfaction surveys? But, I don't understand why you are asking ME
for data. Did I make any allegations?

I realize your comprehension abilities lack. If you demand data to support
their hypothesis, then you can be held to the same standard. J.D. Powers
owner satisfaction survey is loads different than the selling price of a
unit that is perceived to be unreliable and from a company that is out of
business.

What do you think is the depreciation on any outboard motor? They are not
an investment, toys tend to drop in value pretty quickly.When the factory
warranty runs out, the price plummets.
"Bob Marx" wrote in message
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Why?
50% on the 225 I was going to buy At only 3 yrs old?

Why would you pay anymore than 50% on a 3 year motor? Your car worth 50% at
3 years?
Bill

"John Wentworth" wrote in message
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What do you think is the depreciation on any outboard motor? They are not
an investment, toys tend to drop in value pretty quickly.When the factory
warranty runs out, the price plummets.
"Bob Marx" wrote in message
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Why?
50% on the 225 I was going to buy At only 3 yrs old?