"swatcop" wrote in message . ..
"Capt Lou" wrote in message
...
When the Coast Guard was transfered into the Department of Homeland
Security,
so was the Coast Guard Auxiliary. Now all auxiliarists have to be
fingerprinted, and if they want to volunteer as crew or for other jobs,
they
have to pass a security background and criminal check. I know an
auxiliarist
friend of mine who had long hair and was told to cut it. Does anyone feel
that
the government is going a little overboard for civilian citizen
volunteers?

Absolutely not. If you're volunteering to be part of a government
organization that has certain grooming standards and other rules that
separate the professionals from the people who say "would you like some
fries with that," then obviously you have to comply with those standards. If
you don't want to comply, then you don't belong there. See ya.

What about the auxiliarist who has been volunteering for the past 15 or 20
years? Is he or she a security threat?

I don't know, is he/she? They probably didn't run any criminal history
checks on volunteers 15 or 20 years ago, and who's to say that he/she hasn't
committed a crime in the last 15 to 20 years? I don't know about you, but I
think that the U.S. has been too lax on some of their security issues
(evidenced by 09-11). I think I'd rather have intensive screening of ALL of
our country's government employees regardless of their time in service to
avoid any domestic terrorist issues. If thev've got a clean record, then
they've got nothing to worry about.

Maybe it is time to consider the U.S.
Power Squadron and tell the USCGAUX enough is enough! I hear that 60% of
the
auxiliarists in my division will not submit to the fingerprinting. That's
a lot
of dues paying members dropping out!

Hmmm. WHY won't they submit to fingerprinting? If they've got nothing to
hide, what's the problem? I fingerprint people on a daily basis. You know
how long it takes? About 2 minutes. Maybe there's a reason they don't want
to be fingerprinted, and if that's the case, then good riddance. Being a
police officer assigned to a tactical unit and a former Marine, I take
security very seriously. It's about time our government did, too.



As a true conservative, I am diametrically opposed to forcing
"fingerprinting" or other such nonsense on the law-abiding public.

On 16 Jan 2004 10:55:42 -0800, (Mad
Dog Dave) wrote:

As a true conservative, I am diametrically opposed to forcing
"fingerprinting" or other such nonsense on the law-abiding public.

no one is forcing anything on anyone. membership in the coast guard
auxiliary is voluntary. it does not involve the public in any way,
shape or form.
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and enter 'wf3h' in the field

(snip)
As a true conservative, I am diametrically opposed to forcing
"fingerprinting" or other such nonsense on the law-abiding public.

Ah-ha! See! You've made my point for me as well! We're not talking about the
PUBLIC. We're talking about government employees who have access to
classified information! If I was John Q. Public, I wouldn't want to be
fingerprinted for no good reason either. But, if I (John Q. Public) was
employed by the federal governmant that required me to be fingerprinted, I'd
either follow the rules or find another job. Thank you for inadvertantly
proving my point AGAIN.
--
-= swatcop =-

"If it wasn't for stupid people I'd be unemployed."

(snip)
As a true conservative, I am diametrically opposed to forcing
"fingerprinting" or other such nonsense on the law-abiding public.

swatcop wrote:
Ah-ha! See! You've made my point for me as well! We're not talking about the
PUBLIC. We're talking about government employees

wrong. We are (or at least, we were last time I looked) talking about
volunteers.


who have access to
classified information! If I was John Q. Public, I wouldn't want to be
fingerprinted for no good reason either.

AHA! See? Now maybe you "get" the reason why so many of the volunteers said,
"Thanks but no thanks, bye."

But, if I (John Q. Public) was
employed by the federal governmant that required me to be fingerprinted, I'd
either follow the rules or find another job. Thank you for inadvertantly
proving my point AGAIN.
--
-= swatcop =-

"If it wasn't for stupid people I'd be unemployed."

You're employed by a place that deliberately hires stupid people? In law
enforcement? What are you, the bait?

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
(snip)
As a true conservative, I am diametrically opposed to forcing
"fingerprinting" or other such nonsense on the law-abiding public.

swatcop wrote:
Ah-ha! See! You've made my point for me as well! We're not talking about
the
PUBLIC. We're talking about government employees

wrong. We are (or at least, we were last time I looked) talking about
volunteers.

Well, you better look again. Volunteers, yes. But what KIND of volunteers.
United States Coast Guard volunteers, maybe? Ring a bell? Ding ding ding
ding!



who have access to
classified information! If I was John Q. Public, I wouldn't want to be
fingerprinted for no good reason either.

AHA! See? Now maybe you "get" the reason why so many of the volunteers
said,
"Thanks but no thanks, bye."

Good. Then they shouldn't be there. Employ someone who is able to follow the
rules and comply with the screening process.


But, if I (John Q. Public) was
employed by the federal governmant that required me to be fingerprinted,
I'd
either follow the rules or find another job. Thank you for inadvertantly
proving my point AGAIN.
--
-= swatcop =-

"If it wasn't for stupid people I'd be unemployed."

You're employed by a place that deliberately hires stupid people? In law
enforcement? What are you, the bait?

Um, NO. You misinterprated what it means. If it wasn't for stupid people
(quite like yourself), then I'd be unemployed (due to the lack of need for
law enforcement because if there were no stupid people there would be less
crime).

--
-= swatcop =-

"If it wasn't for stupid people I'd be unemployed."

AHA! See? Now maybe you "get" the reason why so many of the volunteers
said,
"Thanks but no thanks, bye."

swatcop wrote:
Good. Then they shouldn't be there. Employ someone who is able to follow the
rules and comply with the screening process.

There you go... 'employ'

Thanks for spending more of our tax money, so that you can be a bullying asshole
with your subordinates as well as any average citizen that has the bad luck to
catch your eye.


... if there were no stupid people there would be less
crime).

But there would still be small souled men who enjoy putting down others when
they can get away with it, and of course they gravitate to any job where they
can indulge in that. Look in a mirror, you'll see what I mean.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
AHA! See? Now maybe you "get" the reason why so many of the volunteers
said,
"Thanks but no thanks, bye."

swatcop wrote:
Good. Then they shouldn't be there. Employ someone who is able to follow
the
rules and comply with the screening process.

There you go... 'employ'

Yes, EMPLOY. You know, "give a job to." You twist everything that I say,
don't you?


Thanks for spending more of our tax money, so that you can be a bullying
asshole
with your subordinates as well as any average citizen that has the bad
luck to
catch your eye.

Now I'm a bullying asshole because you have a problem with reading
comprehension? Um, no. Oh, and I don't spend your tax money, YOU do. And
you're not an average citizen, either. Judging from you poor reading
comprehension skills, I'd place you in the UNDER average category.



... if there were no stupid people there would be less
crime).

But there would still be small souled men who enjoy putting down others
when
they can get away with it, and of course they gravitate to any job where
they
can indulge in that. Look in a mirror, you'll see what I mean.

Yep. Just looked in the mirror. I said "mirror, mirror, on the wall - who
the dumbest one of all?" You know what it said? "That idiot who goes by the
initials DSK on the rec.boats newsgroup."

Well, it's time to say farewell, dip****. You've just earned youself a spot
on my "blocked senders" list. So live it up, post whatever you want. I'll
never get it. Take care now, bye-bye then. Oh, and I really would check into
those remedial classes if I were you.

--
-= swatcop =-

"If it wasn't for stupid people I'd be unemployed."