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The thought police are coming forCRUISERS!
Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters
A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". Translation: If the "authorities" believe for any reason that you are THINKING about or are able to visit Cuba, you loose your boat. Yup...the authorities are now MIND READERS. And once they read your mind they act accordingly. I would venture to say that ANY boat is "susceptible of being used to visit Cuba, wouldn't you? Don't believe it? Here's it is striaght from the horses ass...err...mouth http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...040226-11.html Welcome to 1984 folks. |
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"Marley" wrote in message ... Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". Translation: If the "authorities" believe for any reason that you are THINKING about or are able to visit Cuba, you loose your boat. Yup...the authorities are now MIND READERS. And once they read your mind they act accordingly. I would venture to say that ANY boat is "susceptible of being used to visit Cuba, wouldn't you? Don't believe it? Here's it is striaght from the horses ass...err...mouth http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...040226-11.html Welcome to 1984 folks. Same thing has been used for years in the name of drug and prostitution enforcement. |
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Enforcing drugs and prostitution? Sounds like Amsterdam!
"Calif Bill" wrote in message k.net... "Marley" wrote in message ... Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". Translation: If the "authorities" believe for any reason that you are THINKING about or are able to visit Cuba, you loose your boat. Yup...the authorities are now MIND READERS. And once they read your mind they act accordingly. I would venture to say that ANY boat is "susceptible of being used to visit Cuba, wouldn't you? Don't believe it? Here's it is striaght from the horses ass...err...mouth http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...040226-11.html Welcome to 1984 folks. Same thing has been used for years in the name of drug and prostitution enforcement. |
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"Marley" wrote in message ... Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". You have a problem with that? Why? |
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MMC,
Copy and pasted from the site: "Sec. 4. The Secretary may seek assistance from State and local authorities in carrying out the purposes of this proclamation. Because State and local assistance may be essential for an effective response to this emergency, I urge all State and local officials to cooperate with Federal authorities and to take all actions within their lawful authority necessary to prevent the unauthorized departure of vessels intending to enter Cuban territorial waters." I would imagine they would have to prove "intent". If you were cruising the coast of southern Florida it probably wouldn't be a problem. If you were headed directly for Cuba and were getting close to their waters that might be a different situation. Paul MMC wrote: Enforcing drugs and prostitution? Sounds like Amsterdam! "Calif Bill" wrote in message k.net... "Marley" wrote in message om... Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". Translation: If the "authorities" believe for any reason that you are THINKING about or are able to visit Cuba, you loose your boat. Yup...the authorities are now MIND READERS. And once they read your mind they act accordingly. I would venture to say that ANY boat is "susceptible of being used to visit Cuba, wouldn't you? Don't believe it? Here's it is striaght from the horses ass...err...mouth http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...040226-11.html Welcome to 1984 folks. Same thing has been used for years in the name of drug and prostitution enforcement. |
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"Marley" wrote in message ... Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters snip The Land of the Free indeed! They would have to pry my tiller from my cold dead fingers. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "Marley" wrote in message ... Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters snip The Land of the Free indeed! They would have to pry my tiller from my cold dead fingers. If you were piloting a boat in time of war in the US.....and your boat was needed to thwart an attack.... and you resisted....you may very well be dead. |
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The same people that are screaming about this, and that it is Welcome to 1984 folks" had no problem when Billy and Hilly were using the FBI files to spy on private citizens. Plus they don't know the difference between loose and lose. Marley wrote: Proclamation Restricts Rights of Boats in US Waters A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". Translation: If the "authorities" believe for any reason that you are THINKING about or are able to visit Cuba, you loose your boat. Yup...the authorities are now MIND READERS. And once they read your mind they act accordingly. I would venture to say that ANY boat is "susceptible of being used to visit Cuba, wouldn't you? Don't believe it? Here's it is striaght from the horses ass...err...mouth http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...040226-11.html Welcome to 1984 folks. |
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"JimH" wrote in message ... "Marley" wrote in message A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". You have a problem with that? Why? Yes Jim, I have a problem with that. My reason for the problem is the wording that says that Bush authorizes the total control over any vessel, "foreign" or domestic. I have no problem with the domestic boat but it is the foreign vessel that creates the problem for me. I do cruise to Cuba. I have been there many times. I am a Canadian Citizen and my boat is Canadian Registry. My government allows me to travel to Cuba. My government has trade and diplomatic relations with Cuba. Why should a foreign government take control of my boat if I want to go to Cuba? That is a terrorism and piracy. Jim |
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Jim, You can get to cuba without getting into the territorial waters of
the united States. Jim Carter wrote: "JimH" wrote in message ... "Marley" wrote in message A Proclamation made by US President George W. Bush on February 26, 2004, authorizes the Secretary of Homeland Security to take virtually total control over any vessel, foreign or domestic, in the territorial waters of the United States, if the authorities feel that vessel "may be used, or is susceptible of being used, for voyage into Cuban territorial waters". You have a problem with that? Why? Yes Jim, I have a problem with that. My reason for the problem is the wording that says that Bush authorizes the total control over any vessel, "foreign" or domestic. I have no problem with the domestic boat but it is the foreign vessel that creates the problem for me. I do cruise to Cuba. I have been there many times. I am a Canadian Citizen and my boat is Canadian Registry. My government allows me to travel to Cuba. My government has trade and diplomatic relations with Cuba. Why should a foreign government take control of my boat if I want to go to Cuba? That is a terrorism and piracy. Jim |
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