"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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3) On a 1 to 10 "offense scale", a kid should have to reach a 9-1/2 before
he/she gets wailed on. If a parent lets loose for anything less than that,
he's a lazy sack of **** who doesn't know how to solve problems in an
assertive way that commands respect.

"Strict" parenting does not mean "wailing" on the kid for every thing
they do. Privilege deprivation is usually more effective.

Dave


YOU used the term "run roughshod over kids". I interpret that as wailing on
them. The other things you describe - wanting to know where kids are going,
who they're with, when they'll be home - those things don't fall under that
heading. Those things are normal, for me at least. My son's as rebellious as
any 15 year old, but I've always been able to communicate with him in a way
that eliminates anything worse than the occasional need to raise my voice so
he knows something's serious.