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In article ,
says...
jps wrote:

In article . net,
says...


Most people with a ****ing brain would consider this an acceptable trade
off. That means that 97.8% of the employed people are being paid a
living wage instead of an unacceptable percentage living in poverty.

No, it doesn't. A lot of them are laid off and find
work in other jobs right away, at no better wage than
they had.


Then we're not doing a very good job at training them for making a wage
that'd keep them out of jobs that cannot provide a living wage.

I'd rather have the training problem than the poverty issue any day. It
doesn't surprise me you don't understand since your team's only real
concern is making certain corporate profits are maximized.

Hey poopsy! Corporate America would like nothing better than to have a
large pool of trained workers to draw from. Whose fault is it that such
a pool doesn't exist? Our public schools? Delinquent parents? Lack of
ambition? Or is this Corporate America's fault?

If anyone needs a kick in the shorts it's parents and the NEA.
LZ

The NEA isn't to blame. You cannot teach them who don't want to be
taught. As far as parents are concerned, I don't disagree.

Tell me LZ, who should be doing the kicking and what are the
consequences?

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In article . net,
says...

'jps' and Harry Dumbo Krause just don't like Microsoft
because they're big business, and as
accomplishment-free whiners, they feel they have no
choice but to hate the accomplished.

Your assumptions are, as usual, hate-filled and without basis.

I make my business based on the research and development Microsoft has
funded and brought to market.

While I disagree with some of Bill's tactics and believe he should be
held accountable, without his aggressive pursuit of Microsoft goals the
PC industry would be far behind where it is today.

I think competition is healthy AND he didn't make his fortune by holding
his employees heads under water, like Walmart.

I absolutely love the fact that he's redistributing his personal fortune
to humane projects that'd otherwise be non-existent.

jps

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jps wrote:

In article . net,
says...

Ah, but where's the emotional satisfaction in that?
Lying hate-blinded ideologues like 'jps' NEED devils
with names and faces to blame for what they falsely
consider to be injustice.

In my eyes a society is meant to look after all its peoples, even those
with mental illness.

Those without a voice are least able to affect the system. They require
advocates and you're certainly not one of them.

Someone has to argue against you selfish ****ers who'd gladly sacrifice
a person's well being for a penny or two.

jps

Precisely on point.

Sometimes these Konservatrashers get the point. Perhaps a family member
will be hit by a chronic and severe mental illness. After a few years of
expensive meds and hospitalizations, the insurance bennies might run
out, and then the savings are depleted, and then the family members
start looking around for assistance, even if it is public assistance of
some kind. A quality mental health hospital runs about $2000 a day, and
while hospitizations these days are for short periods of time, there may
be successive visits over the course of a year.

My wife, God bless her, has managed to "convert" some righties who after
a few years of treatment for themselves or for a family member for
serious mental illness were very grateful that some sort of assistance
could be found to help them pay for drugs and hospitalizations. I doubt
these folks will ever for another Repubican as long as they live.

We are our brothers' keepers.

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jps wrote:

In article . net,
says...

'jps' and Harry Dumbo Krause just don't like Microsoft
because they're big business, and as
accomplishment-free whiners, they feel they have no
choice but to hate the accomplished.

Your assumptions are, as usual, hate-filled and without basis.


Ball has marbles running around inside his head. All of our computers
run Microsoft operating systems and Microsoft Office application
software. Most of Microsoft's app software is ok, but I really prefer
WordPerfect to WORD, and Mozilla to Internet Explorer and Outlook Express.

This is really fun stuff. The pit viper of Australia accuses me of
leading the cheerleading section for Microsoft and Ball-less says I
don't like Microsoft. Perhaps we can arrange a date between the two of
them. If they mate, they can raise a generation of toothless vipers.



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In article ,
says...

Sounds to me like you are taking power from the people and shipping it
to Washington.

Jerk,

Individual states would be welcome to exceed Federal standards if their
elected officials saw fit to pass legislation supporting such policies.

A Federal standard would ensure that, under no circumstances would
people be treated at less than a minimum standard.

So perhaps you can explain how that's not giving people power?

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In article ,
says...

Perhaps we can arrange a date between the two of
them. If they mate, they can raise a generation of toothless vipers.

I think their parents have that covered.

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jps wrote:
In article ,
says...

jps wrote:


From a recent ABC news report:

This group bulged in size, largely due to a deliberate process of
"deinstitutionalization" first begun in the 1950s. A patient's best
interest, mental health experts then agreed, was served not so much by
long-term residential care, as by community outpatient treatment. As a
result, the number of resident mental health patients in the U.S.
dropped from 559,000 in 1955 to only 54,000 in 2000, Manderscheid
reports.

But the community outpatient care system that mental health providers
had hoped to build failed to blossom. A federal grant helped construct
about 750 new community health centers between 1963 and 1978; but when
the Reagan administration converted remaining funding into block grants
to states, most opted to finance currently existing mental health
centers, rather than build new ones. According to Manderscheid, the
envisioned community mental health system "froze at that point in time."

The psychiatric ER stepped in to fill the gap in community mental health
care. Variously described as a place patients choose over prison or a
homeless shelter, or where social service agencies "dump" their toughest
cases, the psychiatric ER can play a recurring role in a patient's
behavioral pattern or disease cycle and is often the last line of
defense for repeat patients known as "frequent fliers."

As deinstitutionalization continued, releasing many of the mentally ill
to their hometowns, large numbers discovered they lacked families and
communities willing or able to care for them. Now homeless, unemployed
and uninsured, any health crisis brought them to the steps of the ER =3F
the one place that cannot turn them away.


According to logic, you should blame the states for diverting the money,
not Reagan for making the funds available in a different format.

Nitwit.
LZ


Certainly, the states bear some responsibility but I don't think our
national mental health policy should be administered at the state level.

They bear ALL of it: the money was there.


Further, it's a long known strategy to decentralized in order to weaken.

Thanks for confirming that you don't believe in democracy.


The Reagan and the present Bush Administration know the easiest way to
eviscerate a program is to hand the money to the states. They're all in
terrible shape and would divert the money in a moment's notice to those
with a louder voice.

That's why I blame the Reagan Admin.

No, that's not why, lying cocksucker. You blame him
because it's an irrational, knee-jerk, hate-based
reaction you can't control.

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jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

jps wrote:


In article k.net,
says...


jps wrote:


The Olin *Foundation* does not own a munitions factory.


No, the Olin family owns both the munitions factory and the Olin
Foundation Little nebbishball.

Show us the deed.
LZ


Here, find it for yourself. I don't need to spoon feed you.

http://www.cursor.org/about/themoney.php

Leftist bull****. Anything that has a quote from Eric
Alterman at the top is not to be trusted even to tell
you the correct time of day.

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jps wrote:

In article ,
says...


Don't use logic on JPS. It just confuses him.
LZ


Giggle all you want LZ, I think we need a national health policy that
looks after people in states that would be as backwards as possible
given the chance.

Oh, just another garden-variety communist.

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jps wrote:

In article . net,
says...


Ah, but where's the emotional satisfaction in that?
Lying hate-blinded ideologues like 'jps' NEED devils
with names and faces to blame for what they falsely
consider to be injustice.


In my eyes a society is meant to look after all its peoples, even those
with mental illness.

You are morally blind, so we quite sensibly don't take
moral direction from you.

You do it at your own expense, if you wish. Leave the
rest of us out of your misplaced pity.

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jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

jps wrote:


In article . net,
says...



Most people with a ****ing brain would consider this an acceptable trade
off. That means that 97.8% of the employed people are being paid a
living wage instead of an unacceptable percentage living in poverty.

No, it doesn't. A lot of them are laid off and find
work in other jobs right away, at no better wage than
they had.


Then we're not doing a very good job at training them for making a wage
that'd keep them out of jobs that cannot provide a living wage.

I'd rather have the training problem than the poverty issue any day. It
doesn't surprise me you don't understand since your team's only real
concern is making certain corporate profits are maximized.

Hey poopsy! Corporate America would like nothing better than to have a
large pool of trained workers to draw from. Whose fault is it that such
a pool doesn't exist? Our public schools? Delinquent parents? Lack of
ambition? Or is this Corporate America's fault?

If anyone needs a kick in the shorts it's parents and the NEA.
LZ


The NEA isn't to blame.

The NEA most certainly *is* to blame. They are the
worst, most immoral special interest group in the country.

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jps wrote:

In article . net,
says...


'jps' and Harry Dumbo Krause just don't like Microsoft
because they're big business, and as
accomplishment-free whiners, they feel they have no
choice but to hate the accomplished.


Your assumptions are, as usual, hate-filled and without basis.

My observations are, as usual, emotion free and
absolutely correct.


I make my business based on the research and development Microsoft has
funded and brought to market.

While I disagree with some of Bill's tactics and believe he should be
held accountable, without his aggressive pursuit of Microsoft goals the
PC industry would be far behind where it is today.

I think competition is healthy AND he didn't make his fortune by holding
his employees heads under water, like Walmart.

Wal-Mart does not hold anyone's head under water.
Wal-Mart's manpower needs are very different from
Microsoft's. Each pays the appropriate wage to attract
the talent they need. Neither is unionized.

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Harry Dumbo Krause wrote:

We are our brothers' keepers.

We are not. You go ahead, if you wish, but leave me
out of it. I'll resist, with force.

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Jonathan Ball wrote:

Harry Dumbo Krause wrote:

We are our brothers' keepers.

We are not. You go ahead, if you wish, but leave me
out of it. I'll resist, with force.


Piddler.
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Harry Krause wrote:

Jonathan Ball wrote:


Harry Dumbo Krause wrote:


We are our brothers' keepers.

We are not. You go ahead, if you wish, but leave me
out of it. I'll resist, with force.



Piddler.

Zero. Whiner. Self-marginalized ****worm.

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jps wrote:

Certainly, the states bear some responsibility but I don't think our
national mental health policy should be administered at the state level.

Why bother having states at all? Just have a national government, eh?

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Harry Krause wrote:

We are our brothers' keepers.

....he says standing by and watching the konservatrash die after the bus
ran over him.

-- Charlie


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In article . net,
says...
jps wrote:

The Reagan and the present Bush Administration know the easiest way to
eviscerate a program is to hand the money to the states. They're all in
terrible shape and would divert the money in a moment's notice to those
with a louder voice.

That's why I blame the Reagan Admin.

No, that's not why, lying cocksucker. You blame him
because it's an irrational, knee-jerk, hate-based
reaction you can't control.

Boy, there's a well-reasoned response. Pure flatulence -- your
specialty.

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In article t,
says...
jps wrote:

Here, find it for yourself. I don't need to spoon feed you.

http://www.cursor.org/about/themoney.php

Leftist bull****. Anything that has a quote from Eric
Alterman at the top is not to be trusted even to tell
you the correct time of day.

Read the first paragraph and dismissed it? It's not Eric Alterman's
cite you stupid fool.

It's Media Transparency you should be looking at. No bull****, just the
background of every contributor to your right-wing think tanks.

The cite wasn't for you anyway Ballless, it was for LZ who seems to have
a far greater ability to think for himself. He's the one who cited the
info on the Swiss settlements that you DARED me to post. ****in' freak.

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In article . net,
says...
jps wrote:

In article ,
says...


Don't use logic on JPS. It just confuses him.
LZ


Giggle all you want LZ, I think we need a national health policy that
looks after people in states that would be as backwards as possible
given the chance.

Oh, just another garden-variety communist.

Another elitist pig who thinks health should be the exclusive domain of
those who can afford it.

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In article . net,
says...
jps wrote:

In article . net,
says...


Ah, but where's the emotional satisfaction in that?
Lying hate-blinded ideologues like 'jps' NEED devils
with names and faces to blame for what they falsely
consider to be injustice.


In my eyes a society is meant to look after all its peoples, even those
with mental illness.

You are morally blind, so we quite sensibly don't take
moral direction from you.

You do it at your own expense, if you wish. Leave the
rest of us out of your misplaced pity.

I wouldn't expect you to agree with my moral compass since yours seems
to be aligned with pigs who'll fry in hell, if there is one.

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In article . net,
says...
jps wrote:

If anyone needs a kick in the shorts it's parents and the NEA.
LZ


The NEA isn't to blame.

The NEA most certainly *is* to blame. They are the
worst, most immoral special interest group in the country.

Poppycock. Please explain *why* they're to blame.

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In article et,
says...

Wal-Mart does not hold anyone's head under water.
Wal-Mart's manpower needs are very different from
Microsoft's. Each pays the appropriate wage to attract
the talent they need. Neither is unionized.

Walmart screws people in order to gain a competitive advantage in the
marketplace. They gain their advantage by squeezing every penny out of
the vendors and the operation, including their own people -- the very
reason they're crushing the competition.

While anyone who runs or observes business can admire Walmart's success,
only those with a conscience would care to look at the real costs
involved. Clearly, you're not one of those folks.

Microsoft succeeds based on superior channel development and marketing
expertise. They compete not by squeezing margins and employees but by
bringing value to the consumer.

If Microsoft did squeeze its employees to the point of them not being
able to make a living wage, you better believe it'd result in an
engineer's union.

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In article . net,
says...
Harry Dumbo Krause wrote:

We are our brothers' keepers.

We are not. You go ahead, if you wish, but leave me
out of it. I'll resist, with force.

I'd love to be there when you're punched in the nose by the real people
you had the great opportunity to screw.

Best of luck in that endeavor.

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jps wrote:
In article . net,
says...
Harry Dumbo Krause wrote:

We are our brothers' keepers.

We are not. You go ahead, if you wish, but leave me
out of it. I'll resist, with force.

I'd love to be there when you're punched in the nose by the real people
you had the great opportunity to screw.

Best of luck in that endeavor.


Sadly, "jonball" is representative of most right-wingers, including
almost all of those who post here.

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jps wrote:

In article et,
says...


Wal-Mart does not hold anyone's head under water.
Wal-Mart's manpower needs are very different from
Microsoft's. Each pays the appropriate wage to attract
the talent they need. Neither is unionized.


Walmart screws people in order to gain a competitive advantage in the
marketplace.

Wal-Mart doesn't screw anyone. They offer employment,
and people voluntarily take it.

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In article . net,
says...
jps wrote:

In article et,
says...


Wal-Mart does not hold anyone's head under water.
Wal-Mart's manpower needs are very different from
Microsoft's. Each pays the appropriate wage to attract
the talent they need. Neither is unionized.


Walmart screws people in order to gain a competitive advantage in the
marketplace.

Wal-Mart doesn't screw anyone. They offer employment,
and people voluntarily take it.

Because, unless they want to live on welfare and food stamps, there are
few other choices.

Read this and learn something...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Dec13.html

You'll see a quote from your hallowed Employment Policy Institute about
the fact that jobs being created are "low quality."

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jps wrote:
In article . net,
says...

jps wrote:


In article et,
says...



Wal-Mart does not hold anyone's head under water.
Wal-Mart's manpower needs are very different from
Microsoft's. Each pays the appropriate wage to attract
the talent they need. Neither is unionized.


Walmart screws people in order to gain a competitive advantage in the
marketplace.

Wal-Mart doesn't screw anyone. They offer employment,
and people voluntarily take it.


Because, unless they want to live on welfare and food stamps, there are
few other choices.

Read this and learn something...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Dec13.html

You'll see a quote from your hallowed Employment Policy Institute about
the fact that jobs being created are "low quality."

Is it better to have a low quality job, or no job at
all, asswipe?

Why don't these people do something to EARN their way
into higher quality jobs?

Labor is just another input into the production
process. There is no reason to treat it any
differently than iron ore or electricity or Post-it
notes. The price for it is set by supply and demand,
just as any other input resource.

Deal with it.

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Jonathan Ball wrote:

jps wrote:
In article . net,
says...

jps wrote:


In article et,
says...



Wal-Mart does not hold anyone's head under water.
Wal-Mart's manpower needs are very different from
Microsoft's. Each pays the appropriate wage to attract
the talent they need. Neither is unionized.


Walmart screws people in order to gain a competitive advantage in the
marketplace.

Wal-Mart doesn't screw anyone. They offer employment,
and people voluntarily take it.


Because, unless they want to live on welfare and food stamps, there are
few other choices.

Read this and learn something...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Dec13.html

You'll see a quote from your hallowed Employment Policy Institute about
the fact that jobs being created are "low quality."

Is it better to have a low quality job, or no job at
all, asswipe?

Surely you'll find out if and when you finish college and stop living on
your daddy's money.



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Harry Krause wrote:

Jonathan Ball wrote:


jps wrote:

In article . net,
says...


jps wrote:



In article et,
says...




Wal-Mart does not hold anyone's head under water.
Wal-Mart's manpower needs are very different from
Microsoft's. Each pays the appropriate wage to attract
the talent they need. Neither is unionized.


Walmart screws people in order to gain a competitive advantage in the
marketplace.

Wal-Mart doesn't screw anyone. They offer employment,
and people voluntarily take it.


Because, unless they want to live on welfare and food stamps, there are
few other choices.

Read this and learn something...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Dec13.html

You'll see a quote from your hallowed Employment Policy Institute about
the fact that jobs being created are "low quality."

Is it better to have a low quality job, or no job at
all, asswipe?


Surely you'll find out

I have always known.

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Jonathan Ball wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Jonathan Ball wrote:


jps wrote:

In article . net,
says...


jps wrote:



In article et,
says...




Wal-Mart does not hold anyone's head under water.
Wal-Mart's manpower needs are very different from
Microsoft's. Each pays the appropriate wage to attract
the talent they need. Neither is unionized.


Walmart screws people in order to gain a competitive advantage in the
marketplace.

Wal-Mart doesn't screw anyone. They offer employment,
and people voluntarily take it.


Because, unless they want to live on welfare and food stamps, there are
few other choices.

Read this and learn something...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Dec13.html

You'll see a quote from your hallowed Employment Policy Institute about
the fact that jobs being created are "low quality."

Is it better to have a low quality job, or no job at
all, asswipe?


Surely you'll find out

I have always known.

I'm sure you know a lot about low-quality jobs. Someday you'll graduate
from clerking at 7-11 to swabbing out the heads at Wal-Mart.

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Harry Krause wrote:

Jonathan Ball wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:


Jonathan Ball wrote:



jps wrote:


In article . net,
says...



jps wrote:




In article et,
says...





Wal-Mart does not hold anyone's head under water.
Wal-Mart's manpower needs are very different from
Microsoft's. Each pays the appropriate wage to attract
the talent they need. Neither is unionized.


Walmart screws people in order to gain a competitive advantage in the
marketplace.

Wal-Mart doesn't screw anyone. They offer employment,
and people voluntarily take it.


Because, unless they want to live on welfare and food stamps, there are
few other choices.

Read this and learn something...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Dec13.html

You'll see a quote from your hallowed Employment Policy Institute about
the fact that jobs being created are "low quality."

Is it better to have a low quality job, or no job at
all, asswipe?


Surely you'll find out

I have always known.


I'm sure you know a lot about low-quality jobs.

No, I know about $100,000+ jobs. I hold one.

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jps wrote in message . ..
In article . net,
says...
jps wrote:

In article ,
says...


Don't use logic on JPS. It just confuses him.
LZ


Giggle all you want LZ, I think we need a national health policy that
looks after people in states that would be as backwards as possible
given the chance.

Oh, just another garden-variety communist.

Another elitist pig who thinks health should be the exclusive domain of
those who can afford it.

Another logically challeneged person who equates not giving a freebie
to someone with denying it to him.

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Jonathan Ball wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Jonathan Ball wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:


Jonathan Ball wrote:



jps wrote:


In article . net,
says...



jps wrote:




In article et,
says...





Wal-Mart does not hold anyone's head under water.
Wal-Mart's manpower needs are very different from
Microsoft's. Each pays the appropriate wage to attract
the talent they need. Neither is unionized.


Walmart screws people in order to gain a competitive advantage in the
marketplace.

Wal-Mart doesn't screw anyone. They offer employment,
and people voluntarily take it.


Because, unless they want to live on welfare and food stamps, there are
few other choices.

Read this and learn something...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Dec13.html

You'll see a quote from your hallowed Employment Policy Institute about
the fact that jobs being created are "low quality."

Is it better to have a low quality job, or no job at
all, asswipe?


Surely you'll find out

I have always known.


I'm sure you know a lot about low-quality jobs.

No, I know about $100,000+ jobs. I hold one.


So, you work 10 shifts at 7-11. BFD.

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jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Don't use logic on JPS. It just confuses him.
LZ

Giggle all you want LZ, I think we need a national health policy that
looks after people in states that would be as backwards as possible
given the chance.


If that's they way they built it, who are you to judge them?


That's one of the biggest problems with liberals. They're way too
presumptuous about what's "good" for other people, and who should pay
for it.

Dave

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jps wrote:

In article ,
says...

Sounds to me like you are taking power from the people and shipping it
to Washington.

Jerk,

Individual states would be welcome to exceed Federal standards if their
elected officials saw fit to pass legislation supporting such policies.

A Federal standard would ensure that, under no circumstances would
people be treated at less than a minimum standard.

So perhaps you can explain how that's not giving people power?


It's not giving the "people" power. It's giving government's power.

Dave

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jps wrote:

In article . net,
says...
jps wrote:

In article ,
says...


Don't use logic on JPS. It just confuses him.
LZ


Giggle all you want LZ, I think we need a national health policy that
looks after people in states that would be as backwards as possible
given the chance.

Oh, just another garden-variety communist.

Another elitist pig who thinks health should be the exclusive domain of
those who can afford it.


We would ALL be able to afford it, if we didn't try to stem the problem
by instituting insurance subsidies into the demand side of what was a
free market business.

Your kind of solution is why the problem is as big as it is now.

Dave

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Mark Neglay wrote:
jps wrote in message . ..

In article . net,
says...

jps wrote:


In article ,
says...



Don't use logic on JPS. It just confuses him.
LZ


Giggle all you want LZ, I think we need a national health policy that
looks after people in states that would be as backwards as possible
given the chance.

Oh, just another garden-variety communist.

Another elitist pig who thinks health should be the exclusive domain of
those who can afford it.


Another logically challeneged person who equates not giving a freebie
to someone with denying it to him.

Exactly so!

The other week, two talk radio hosts who played a big
role in the recall of Gray Davis, and who also were
playing a big role in getting an initiative on the
ballot to get rid of the extortionate car tax, had a
comment from some leftwing bleeding heart about a
provision in some part of the California tax code that
when there was a reduction in the rate of the car tax,
welfare recipients *also* were supposed to get some
kind of "refund". This, of course, makes clear how the
tyrants - the governors - view taxes: not as money
that we give to them to spend for legitimate public
purpose, but rather as THEIR money that they dole out
as they see fit.

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In article ,
says...
jps wrote:

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Sounds to me like you are taking power from the people and shipping it
to Washington.

Jerk,

Individual states would be welcome to exceed Federal standards if their
elected officials saw fit to pass legislation supporting such policies.

A Federal standard would ensure that, under no circumstances would
people be treated at less than a minimum standard.

So perhaps you can explain how that's not giving people power?


It's not giving the "people" power. It's giving government's power.

Dave


By setting a minimum standard of regard for human beings? I can't
imagine any reasoning that'd convince me that the power we give the
government to make this mandate wouldn't be worth it.

It's not taking power away from people, it's ensuring their well-being.

Give it a shot if you must Dave but I think you'd be better off moving
onto an argument that's defensible.

jps

Say NO NO NO to Wal-Mart!!!
 

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Don't use logic on JPS. It just confuses him.
LZ


Giggle all you want LZ, I think we need a national health policy that
looks after people in states that would be as backwards as possible
given the chance.

Oh, just another garden-variety communist.

Another elitist pig who thinks health should be the exclusive domain of
those who can afford it.

Another logically challeneged person who equates not giving a freebie
to someone with denying it to him.

Logic? A minimum standard for health in our country is illogical?
Caring for the infirmed is "giving a freebie?"

I suppose those who cannot care for themselves should just whither and
die? Can we send them to your neighborhood? Where would you like them
to go.

Another pig who thinks health is the exclusive domain of those who can
afford it.