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Jonathan Ball wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: Fred Ziffel wrote: Nothing wrong with Switzerland, but I wish it was made in the USA, like everything used to be. That's stupid thinking. Why do you really care where it's made? Borders are arbitrary. For things that are made in the U.S., do you care that they're made in your state? For things that are made in your state, do you care that they're made in your county? Stupid thinking? Yes: stupid thinking. I care where products are made because I want Americans who need manufacturing jobs No Americans "need" manufacturing jobs. Really? Well, at this point, it is obvious you are so detached from reality that nothing further you post is worth a look. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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SteveB wrote:
"Jonathan Ball" wrote No. $50 says I'm older and have more documentable education than you, putz. WTF is "documentable education"? I know a lot of people who have degrees who can't tie their shoelaces. Education is by NO means an indicator of intelligence. Many degrees are merely certificates of attendance. Or merely those bestowed by The Mighty Wizard. Steve Ball is an honors economics graduate of Matchbook Cover U. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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jps wrote:
In article k.net, says... Harry Krause wrote: jps wrote: In article , says... I think that is sufficient proof that the claim was accurate. LZ Thanks LZ. Mr. Jonathan Ball should probably look into Swiss history a little more. It's pretty clear they're a mercantile lot living under the misperception of neutrality. The Jewish people are just one of many who've been stolen from and then stiff armed by Swiss banking laws. There are folks around the globe who've been screwed by creeps, thugs and the like whose ill-gotten gains are "protected" by the Swiss banking system. It's a pretty country hiding some of the ugliest secrets in the world. jps Ball probably is very young, No. $50 says I'm older and have more documentable education than you, putz. very smug, Hardly. The correct term is self confident. I am self confident, you are smug. Older, wiser people like me know the difference. Allow me to suggest your self-confidence is unearned. inexperienced in the reality of the world No. and likely believes the holocaust was a myth. No. This guy is a loudmouthed fool whose references are as paper thin as whatever foreskins he's got. Ask him about Switzerland or the Employment Policy Foundation and you'll find him a font of misinformation. You know he's an idiot if he thinks he's older and has more education than Harry! ;^) jps That's right. *I* am the ancient mariner. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... A real store would've moved those women out of the line, and perhaps even called the police. Not WM, though. As far as they're concerned, their customers' time is worthless. You can't put the blame on that type of behavior squarely on the shoulders of Wal-Mart exclusively. Many other department stores work in the same way. Any time you have a store which attracts a clientele which is not "bloomingdales" quality, you employ people at or near minimum wage, and do not offer line managers any incentive to do any more than babysit the employees, you will get this sort of situation. I've been in similar situations (I always end up picking the worst line) in grocery stores as well as department stores. Dave I have, too. In the "other" store I shop at, the cashier's blinking light would've gone on and a manager or security person would've been there in 30 seconds. Not Wal Mart, though. Again, it's probably a local thing, and not something endemic to the Walmart business plan. Something else interesting about the WM near me: You know how you hear a gentle beep from some cash registers each time an item is dragged across the scanner? At WM, they've connected that to the public address system at the front. Unbelievably loud and annoying. WTF? This is supposed to make the place sound interesting? What? You've got to be kidding. That would drive me nuts if I had to listen to that for hours on end.... Dave I kid you not. At first, I wondered if my 50 year old hearing had begun to lose some of its directional sensitivity. But, last time I was at WM, my 14 yr old son & two friends were with me. They focused on the sources and sure enough, it was coming from the PA system. You know the 120 decibel French fry timers at McDonalds? Lower the level a bit, but multiply by however many registers are beeping. That's nuts! What possible legitimate use could that possibly have? 25 years ago, when I worked at a factory, they had tone paging over the PA. When you worked second shift, and it was quiet, you really started noticing those annoying beep-beep-beeps every few minutes. One night the maintenance crew left a lift in our area. Needless to say, we climbed up there and cut the wires to the speaker, so that we could open the connection at night, and then reconnect it again for the day shift. I know how annoying those sounds can be. I can't imagine having to hear that at close range for any length of time. Dave |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote: "Jonathan Ball" wrote in message hlink.net... Lone Haranguer wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: jps wrote: Bull****, they collect tolls off of blood money. Prove it. http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in: http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf Methinks Jonathan is a college freshman with a rich daddy. What "you think" is irrelevant. It's clear that you think little at all and would rather just catergorize and demonize all those who disagree with you. If I were to adopt your "style" I could say that you seem to be a very young, naive and somewhat taken to embellishment, as the stories that you tell are rarely verifiable, and the idealogy that you embrace is the sort of utopian idealist attitude usually reserved for someone who never had to earn a living. Sort of like those Hollywood liberals. Dave |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Ball probably is very young, very smug, inexperienced in the reality of the world and likely believes the holocaust was a myth. Another Dave Hall? Possibly. I'm not the only intelligent, rational, logical, analytical, and dispassionate person on this planet. Dave |
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jps wrote:
In article k.net, says... Harry Krause wrote: jps wrote: In article , says... I think that is sufficient proof that the claim was accurate. LZ Thanks LZ. Mr. Jonathan Ball should probably look into Swiss history a little more. It's pretty clear they're a mercantile lot living under the misperception of neutrality. The Jewish people are just one of many who've been stolen from and then stiff armed by Swiss banking laws. There are folks around the globe who've been screwed by creeps, thugs and the like whose ill-gotten gains are "protected" by the Swiss banking system. It's a pretty country hiding some of the ugliest secrets in the world. jps Ball probably is very young, No. $50 says I'm older and have more documentable education than you, putz. very smug, Hardly. The correct term is self confident. I am self confident, you are smug. Older, wiser people like me know the difference. Allow me to suggest your self-confidence is unearned. inexperienced in the reality of the world No. and likely believes the holocaust was a myth. No. This guy is a loudmouthed fool whose references are as paper thin as whatever foreskins he's got. Ask him about Switzerland or the Employment Policy Foundation and you'll find him a font of misinformation. You know he's an idiot if he thinks he's older and has more education than Harry! ;^) How do you know what Harry REALLY has. You only have his word for it. And well, quite frankly, history will show that Harry isn't the most honest person around...... For all you know, Harry could be a Wal-Mart manager. Dave |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Jonathan Ball wrote: Lone Haranguer wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: jps wrote: Bull****, they collect tolls off of blood money. Prove it. http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I think you've spent too much of your life reading Ayn Rand and taking it seriously. You're really quite the smug, arrogant ass. Assuming that this statement is true. What gives you the authority to declare that Ayn Rand is wrong? What makes your opinion any more valid? Sounds like a bit of smug arrogance on your part. When you finally figure this out, you'll hopefully understand why you are little more than the flip side to the same coin..... Dave |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Gould 0738" wrote in message ... In all fairness, Chuck, the cost of buying your own Blue Choice policy here (Rochester) is about $6-7k per year. Does that $7k a year policy also carry a $3000 deductible? Are you being facetious? If not, and I understand your question, co-pays are $5 for normal doctor visit, $10-$15 for specialists, and if I recall, $35 or $50 for E.R. Surgery is also under $100. I think, in this case, Chuck is working from some erroneous information. Dave |
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Fred Ziffel wrote:
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:54:34 GMT, Jonathan Ball wrote: Fred Ziffel wrote: On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 16:32:56 GMT, Jonathan Ball wrote: We used to make very high quality products too. We still do. We make those things where we have some comparative advantage. Increasingly, the things we make are not tangible. That doesn't make them any less valuable. Sorry, I've been listening to these same bull**** arguments for over 20 years, No, you clearly *haven't* been listening to them. You very clearly don't understand comparative advantage, and patterns of trade. You are economically illiterate. No, I'm not "economically illiterate," I just don't have my head up my ass, like you do. You are obviously a brainwashed fool who would deliberately destroy America with your idiotic theories about economics, theories that have absolutely no basis in reality. I'll leave you now so you can worship at the altar of "comparative advantage." But you might want to give the collum below a read when you are done saying your prayers to the gods of free trade. It may be enlightening. Fred Ziffel ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.unsustainable.org/view_art_un.asp?AID=291 Once again, another leftist is attempting to scare people by citing statistics and drawing an unrelated conclusion from it. And as true to form as ever, the author is quick to lay out the blame (and thereby exposing their not-so-hidden agenda), but offers not one bit of advice on how to "fix" it. One of the biggest reasons for a trade deficit are differences in economic standings. The US economy is recovering faster than much of the rest of the world. As such the U.S. dollar is failry strong. As long as the dollar remains strong there will be more imported goods than exports, simply because our money can buy more goods, while selling less compared to the currency in other countries. Everyone cries when the dollar devaluates, but that's exactly what needs to happen in order to equalize the trade situation. There are other factors to consider as well, but the last thing we need to do, is get the government involved with trying to regulate free trade. There are so many facets to the economy, that you might think that a ceratin "control" (such as a tariff) would have a short term goal of bolstering domestic production. But it could have damaging repercussions in other areas. Nothing can illustrate this better than the current health care and insurance debacle. The more we try to "save" people by offering them more and more insurance to offset medical costs, the more incentive the healthcare industry has to raise prices. That's the legacy we have when we try to regulate or control a part of the free market. Dave |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Jonathan Ball wrote: Fred Ziffel wrote: Nothing wrong with Switzerland, but I wish it was made in the USA, like everything used to be. That's stupid thinking. Why do you really care where it's made? Borders are arbitrary. For things that are made in the U.S., do you care that they're made in your state? For things that are made in your state, do you care that they're made in your county? Stupid thinking? I care where products are made because I want Americans who need manufacturing jobs to have decent manufacturing jobs in the United States, jobs where they can turn out good products and earn a living for their families. Good manufacturing jobs help us maintain a good manufacturing economy, and keep us from being overly dependent upon other nations. You sound like a one-worlder. Would you please be kind enough to elaborate on just why this would be a bad thing? Dave |
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I think, in this case, Chuck is working from some erroneous information.
Dave I was relying on a paragraph in the Seattle Times' 3-part series about WalMart. The WSJ reports different numbers, still extremely high for a mini-wage worker. $1000 deductible, plus 20% of all actual medical costs after the deductible (up to $1750). No coverage at all for vaccinating children, eye drops, contraceptives, chiropractic care, etc. $50 penalty added to the additional premium deducted from every paycheck for spousal coverage, if that spouse has access to health insurance through any other plan. http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/992282/posts |
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message
... Doug Kanter wrote: "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... In all fairness, Chuck, the cost of buying your own Blue Choice policy here (Rochester) is about $6-7k per year. Does that $7k a year policy also carry a $3000 deductible? Are you being facetious? If not, and I understand your question, co-pays are $5 for normal doctor visit, $10-$15 for specialists, and if I recall, $35 or $50 for E.R. Surgery is also under $100. I think, in this case, Chuck is working from some erroneous information. Dave Well, I'm not sure. I made a similar mistake last week in a discussion. If you look at the "cash price" that your employer pays for each employee in a group plan (before your contribution or the employer's), it's usually much lower than the price you get if call Blue Choice or whoever and say "I'm a sole proprietor. How much will same kind of plan cost me?" |
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message
... What? You've got to be kidding. That would drive me nuts if I had to listen to that for hours on end.... Dave I kid you not. At first, I wondered if my 50 year old hearing had begun to lose some of its directional sensitivity. But, last time I was at WM, my 14 yr old son & two friends were with me. They focused on the sources and sure enough, it was coming from the PA system. You know the 120 decibel French fry timers at McDonalds? Lower the level a bit, but multiply by however many registers are beeping. That's nuts! What possible legitimate use could that possibly have? Somebody apparently thinks it makes the store sound "festive", like one of our malls where there are three different sets of holiday music playing in different "branches" of the walkway. If you happen to be standing where the walkways meet..... This is why a local reporter wrote last week "If there's anything that makes me want to climb a tower with a rifle, it's the excessively early arrival of holiday music". :-) |
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message
... http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in: http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf Methinks Jonathan is a college freshman with a rich daddy. What "you think" is irrelevant. It's clear that you think little at all and would rather just catergorize and demonize all those who disagree with you. Dave, do you ALSO think that the Swiss are innocent of all wrongdoing from WWII? Court documents aren't good enough for you? :-) |
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jps wrote:
In article k.net, says... Harry Krause wrote: Mr. Jonathan Ball should probably look into Swiss history a little more. It's pretty clear they're a mercantile lot living under the misperception of neutrality. The Jewish people are just one of many who've been stolen from and then stiff armed by Swiss banking laws. There are folks around the globe who've been screwed by creeps, thugs and the like whose ill-gotten gains are "protected" by the Swiss banking system. It's a pretty country hiding some of the ugliest secrets in the world. jps Ball probably is very young, No. $50 says I'm older and have more documentable education than you, putz. very smug, Hardly. The correct term is self confident. I am self confident, you are smug. Older, wiser people like me know the difference. Allow me to suggest your self-confidence is unearned. Allow me to tell you you don't know your ass from your face. My self confidence is fully paid for. inexperienced in the reality of the world No. and likely believes the holocaust was a myth. No. This guy is a loudmouthed fool whose references are as paper thin as whatever foreskins he's got. Ask him about Switzerland or the Employment Policy Foundation and you'll find him a font of misinformation. Answer the question, bigoted punk: are the facts about who earns minimum wage, and for how long, correct or not? Show competing conclusions, if you have any (heh heh heh). |
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jps wrote:
In article k.net, says... jps wrote: In article , says... I think that is sufficient proof that the claim was accurate. LZ Thanks LZ. Mr. Jonathan Ball should probably look into Swiss history a little more. I think you should look into it in the first place, whiner. It's obvious you never have. Whiner? Is that the best you can muster? Tell your girlfriend or your boyfriend to give you a tap upside the head with a cast iron frypan. You're really in need. Actually, idiot, I've spent a bit of time there myself. Unlike you, however, I had my eyes opened to their history and place in the world. Cut the ****. You were on a package tour. You saw the covered bridge in Luzern and falsely concluded you "know" Swiss history. You don't know anything. You were an exchange student living in luxury in the Zurich or Geneva? Not luxury. It was a comfortable middle class family. The father was an engineer specializing in dam construction; he worked on the Grand Dixence dam, among others. In order to head off your inevitable unfounded charge of anti-semitism, I'm quite confident no forced Jewish labor was used in the construction of the dam. Both before and after my stay with them, the family lived in Iran, where he also worked on dam construction. You, being a paranoid bigot, probably see that as evidence of anti-semitism. You are a fool in addition to being a loathsome bigot. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Jonathan Ball wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: Fred Ziffel wrote: Nothing wrong with Switzerland, but I wish it was made in the USA, like everything used to be. That's stupid thinking. Why do you really care where it's made? Borders are arbitrary. For things that are made in the U.S., do you care that they're made in your state? For things that are made in your state, do you care that they're made in your county? Stupid thinking? Yes: stupid thinking. I care where products are made because I want Americans who need manufacturing jobs No Americans "need" manufacturing jobs. Really? Yes: really. No Americans "need" manufacturing jobs. Well, at this point, it is obvious you are so detached from reality that nothing further you post is worth a look. Translation: you lost, and you're running away. |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in: http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf Methinks Jonathan is a college freshman with a rich daddy. What "you think" is irrelevant. It's clear that you think little at all and would rather just catergorize and demonize all those who disagree with you. Dave, do you ALSO think that the Swiss are innocent of all wrongdoing from WWII? Court documents aren't good enough for you? :-) The paranoid bigot who offered the court documents was trying to prove, somehow, that the Swiss economy is not primarily a service based economy. His citation couldn't possibly prove that, as it is entirely unrelated. |
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"Jonathan Ball" wrote in message
hlink.net... Dave, do you ALSO think that the Swiss are innocent of all wrongdoing from WWII? Court documents aren't good enough for you? :-) The paranoid bigot who offered the court documents was trying to prove, somehow, that the Swiss economy is not primarily a service based economy. His citation couldn't possibly prove that, as it is entirely unrelated. Based on my reading of the messages, there were two things going on, and one of them was JPS' comment that the Swiss had, and continue to have some skanky activities that they'd like the world to not notice. Then, I believe it was you who appeared to deny that the Swiss had held onto assets which weren't theirs from the WWII era. If they'd cleared it all up in 1948, it would've been fair to say that it was over. But, legal proceedings were still going on until just a couple of years ago, which was proven with a link to court documents. At that point, you failed to say "Oh...OK....fine. I was mistaken". The FIRST link someone posted for you was from what you considered an unreliable or biased source. The SECOND one, which I posted, was a direct source of information. Not that I've straightened this out for you, do you still believe the Swiss did NOT hang onto assets which belonged to Holocaust victims? |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Jonathan Ball" wrote in message hlink.net... Dave, do you ALSO think that the Swiss are innocent of all wrongdoing from WWII? Court documents aren't good enough for you? :-) The paranoid bigot who offered the court documents was trying to prove, somehow, that the Swiss economy is not primarily a service based economy. His citation couldn't possibly prove that, as it is entirely unrelated. Based on my reading of the messages, there were two things going on, and one of them was JPS' comment that the Swiss had, and continue to have some skanky activities that they'd like the world to not notice. Then, I believe it was you who appeared to deny that the Swiss had held onto assets which weren't theirs from the WWII era. No, I didn't. As you say, there are two *entirely separate* issues: the composition of the Swiss economy, and whether or not Switzerland concealed illegally held Jewish assets. I never even addressed the latter, because I think it is well demonstrated that Swiss banks did hold onto the assets, and the Swiss government didn't do anything to get them to be forthcoming. I do dispute the paranoid bigot and coward "jps's" rabid contention that the Swiss economy is based on recycling "blood money". If they'd cleared it all up in 1948, it would've been fair to say that it was over. But, legal proceedings were still going on until just a couple of years ago, which was proven with a link to court documents. At that point, you failed to say "Oh...OK....fine. I was mistaken". The FIRST link someone posted for you was from what you considered an unreliable or biased source. The SECOND one, which I posted, was a direct source of information. Not that I've straightened this out for you, do you still believe the Swiss did NOT hang onto assets which belonged to Holocaust victims? I never believed it; yours is an invalid complex question. |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in: http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf Methinks Jonathan is a college freshman with a rich daddy. What "you think" is irrelevant. It's clear that you think little at all and would rather just catergorize and demonize all those who disagree with you. Dave, do you ALSO think that the Swiss are innocent of all wrongdoing from WWII? Court documents aren't good enough for you? :-) I withhold any comment on the Swiss situation until I see more information. I was merely commenting on Harry's typical modus operandi, of making assumptions of someone simply because they hold a different political ideology, and then demonizing them based on his conjectures. Dave |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... What? You've got to be kidding. That would drive me nuts if I had to listen to that for hours on end.... Dave I kid you not. At first, I wondered if my 50 year old hearing had begun to lose some of its directional sensitivity. But, last time I was at WM, my 14 yr old son & two friends were with me. They focused on the sources and sure enough, it was coming from the PA system. You know the 120 decibel French fry timers at McDonalds? Lower the level a bit, but multiply by however many registers are beeping. That's nuts! What possible legitimate use could that possibly have? Somebody apparently thinks it makes the store sound "festive", like one of our malls where there are three different sets of holiday music playing in different "branches" of the walkway. If you happen to be standing where the walkways meet..... More idiots in control..... This is why a local reporter wrote last week "If there's anything that makes me want to climb a tower with a rifle, it's the excessively early arrival of holiday music". :-) I agree. I look forward to and enjoy the Christmas season. But I traditionally don't start celebrating it until Thanksgiving is officially in the can. I don't start the music and the ornaments until the first or second week in December. Any sooner than that, and I'm sick of the whole thing by the time Christmas actually gets here. My wife is a little more "festive" than I am, and it's tough to restrain her urges to "deck the halls" (Literally) in the middle of November. I look at it as desperation on the part of retailers who are just leveraging the holidays for a fatter bottom line. It's a shame that the true meaning of Christmas, and even the magical wonder that it holds for a young child, is lost under mounds of commercial greed... Dave |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "Gould 0738" wrote in message ... In all fairness, Chuck, the cost of buying your own Blue Choice policy here (Rochester) is about $6-7k per year. Does that $7k a year policy also carry a $3000 deductible? Are you being facetious? If not, and I understand your question, co-pays are $5 for normal doctor visit, $10-$15 for specialists, and if I recall, $35 or $50 for E.R. Surgery is also under $100. I think, in this case, Chuck is working from some erroneous information. Dave Well, I'm not sure. I made a similar mistake last week in a discussion. If you look at the "cash price" that your employer pays for each employee in a group plan (before your contribution or the employer's), it's usually much lower than the price you get if call Blue Choice or whoever and say "I'm a sole proprietor. How much will same kind of plan cost me?" That's true, and largely due to the "volume discount" that a large grouping of employees rates. A corporation can also encourage wellness programs, stop smoking clinics, and offer physical fitness discounts at heath spas. All these factors contribute to a lower risk assessment for large group memberships. Dave |
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... Dave, do you ALSO think that the Swiss are innocent of all wrongdoing from WWII? Court documents aren't good enough for you? :-) I withhold any comment on the Swiss situation until I see more information. I was merely commenting on Harry's typical modus operandi, of making assumptions of someone simply because they hold a different political ideology, and then demonizing them based on his conjectures. Dave Well, the court proceedings took place throughout the 1990s. Plenty of information out there. If the court documents are too dense to wade through, as they usually are, search at one of the major newspapers. |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in: http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf Methinks Jonathan is a college freshman with a rich daddy. What "you think" is irrelevant. It's clear that you think little at all and would rather just catergorize and demonize all those who disagree with you. Dave, do you ALSO "Also"? Who has indicated he thinks the Swiss didn't do something wrong during the war? Stop asking illegitimate complex questions. think that the Swiss are innocent of all wrongdoing from WWII? Court documents aren't good enough for you? :-) |
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Fully supported by the parents and family. Not too many kids with a bunch of
disposable income or good credit limits going through the checkouts. How many pairs of Nikes did you have as a child? What about the $200 club jackets? Myron Dave Hall wrote: It's a shame that the true meaning of Christmas, and even the magical wonder that it holds for a young child, is lost under mounds of commercial greed... |
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Dave Hall wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Jonathan Ball" wrote in message hlink.net... Lone Haranguer wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: jps wrote: Bull****, they collect tolls off of blood money. Prove it. http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in: http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf Methinks Jonathan is a college freshman with a rich daddy. What "you think" is irrelevant. Ah, but what I think-and do-is far more relevant than what you think or do, and for reasons I won't get into in a newsgroup. You're just right-wing trash, and in the course of human events, you and those who think and feel like you will end up on the discard pile. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Dave Hall wrote:
jps wrote: In article k.net, says... Harry Krause wrote: jps wrote: In article , says... I think that is sufficient proof that the claim was accurate. LZ Thanks LZ. Mr. Jonathan Ball should probably look into Swiss history a little more. It's pretty clear they're a mercantile lot living under the misperception of neutrality. The Jewish people are just one of many who've been stolen from and then stiff armed by Swiss banking laws. There are folks around the globe who've been screwed by creeps, thugs and the like whose ill-gotten gains are "protected" by the Swiss banking system. It's a pretty country hiding some of the ugliest secrets in the world. jps Ball probably is very young, No. $50 says I'm older and have more documentable education than you, putz. very smug, Hardly. The correct term is self confident. I am self confident, you are smug. Older, wiser people like me know the difference. Allow me to suggest your self-confidence is unearned. inexperienced in the reality of the world No. and likely believes the holocaust was a myth. No. This guy is a loudmouthed fool whose references are as paper thin as whatever foreskins he's got. Ask him about Switzerland or the Employment Policy Foundation and you'll find him a font of misinformation. You know he's an idiot if he thinks he's older and has more education than Harry! ;^) How do you know what Harry REALLY has. You only have his word for it. And well, quite frankly, history will show that Harry isn't the most honest person around...... How would you possibly know that, Dave? From reading the vomitus of Karen Smith, Dave Mann and a few other right-wing ejaculates? -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Get that damned bus off the road. It slows down my Rolls.
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Dave Hall wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Jonathan Ball" wrote in message hlink.net... Lone Haranguer wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: jps wrote: Bull****, they collect tolls off of blood money. Prove it. http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in: http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf Methinks Jonathan is a college freshman with a rich daddy. What "you think" is irrelevant. Ah, but what I think-and do-is far more relevant than what you think or do, and for reasons I won't get into in a newsgroup. You're just right-wing trash, and in the course of human events, you and those who think and feel like you will end up on the discard pile. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Harry Krause wrote: Ah, but what I think-and do-is far more relevant than what you think or do, and for reasons I won't get into in a newsgroup. LOL, you're such an important person in your own mind. It funny how arrogant people never see themselves as others do. You're clueless. -- Charlie ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Dave Hall wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Jonathan Ball" wrote in message . earthlink.net... Lone Haranguer wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: jps wrote: Bull****, they collect tolls off of blood money. Prove it. http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in: http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf Methinks Jonathan is a college freshman with a rich daddy. What "you think" is irrelevant. Ah, but what I think-and do-is far more relevant than what you think or do, and for reasons I won't get into in a newsgroup. I doubt it. Since you are too arrogant and/or scared to tell us why you think you are, I'll just consider your claim unsupported bull****. |
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Harry Krause wrote: Dave Hall wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Jonathan Ball" wrote in message .earthlink.net... Lone Haranguer wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: jps wrote: Bull****, they collect tolls off of blood money. Prove it. http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in: http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf Methinks Jonathan is a college freshman with a rich daddy. What "you think" is irrelevant. Ah, but what I think-and do-is far more relevant than what you think or do, and for reasons I won't get into in a newsgroup. I doubt it. Since you are too arrogant and/or scared to tell us why you think you are, I'll just consider your claim unsupported bull****. Not all all. I've simply concluded that you're just another piece of right-wing crapola, and therefore nothing you post is worth consideration. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Jonathan Ball wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Dave Hall wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Jonathan Ball" wrote in message s.earthlink.net... Lone Haranguer wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: jps wrote: Bull****, they collect tolls off of blood money. Prove it. http://www.truthout.org/docs_02/06.27H.swiss.pay.htm A an extremist radical propaganda site. It's crap from beginning to end. I'm not sure what you're having trouble believing, but perhaps things like this will snap you out of whatever trance you're in: http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/IRURF.pdf Methinks Jonathan is a college freshman with a rich daddy. What "you think" is irrelevant. Ah, but what I think-and do-is far more relevant than what you think or do, and for reasons I won't get into in a newsgroup. I doubt it. Since you are too arrogant and/or scared to tell us why you think you are, I'll just consider your claim unsupported bull****. Not all all. Yes: all. Your claim is unsupported bull****: what you think and do is negligible, and not important to anyone who is important. |
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says... jps wrote: In article k.net, says... jps wrote: In article , says... I think that is sufficient proof that the claim was accurate. LZ Thanks LZ. Mr. Jonathan Ball should probably look into Swiss history a little more. I think you should look into it in the first place, whiner. It's obvious you never have. Whiner? Is that the best you can muster? Tell your girlfriend or your boyfriend to give you a tap upside the head with a cast iron frypan. You're really in need. Actually, idiot, I've spent a bit of time there myself. Unlike you, however, I had my eyes opened to their history and place in the world. Cut the ****. You were on a package tour. You saw the covered bridge in Luzern and falsely concluded you "know" Swiss history. You don't know anything. I have friends who live in a 400 year old house heated by a yurt outside of Beatenberg, opposite Interlochen. He's a scientist who lives and works where he pleases. You have no adult friends there. You were a blind little piker who came back with a pair of lederhosen that you showed off for your parents and then never wore again, right? You were an exchange student living in luxury in the Zurich or Geneva? Not luxury. It was a comfortable middle class family. The father was an engineer specializing in dam construction; he worked on the Grand Dixence dam, among others. In order to head off your inevitable unfounded charge of anti-semitism, I'm quite confident no forced Jewish labor was used in the construction of the dam. I never accused Switzerland of forced labor, just participating in the holocaust loot that the Furer and his minions gave to the Swiss for safe keeping. No doubt that and other stolen, unclaimed property has helped float the Swiss economy over the last 60 years. Both before and after my stay with them, the family lived in Iran, where he also worked on dam construction. You, being a paranoid bigot, probably see that as evidence of anti-semitism. You are a fool in addition to being a loathsome bigot. And you're a blowhard know nothing. You're full of assumptions with few facts to back you up. Tell us more about American labor markets and the history of Switzerland Jonathan. You're a real hoot. |
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In article k.net,
says... This guy is a loudmouthed fool whose references are as paper thin as whatever foreskins he's got. Ask him about Switzerland or the Employment Policy Foundation and you'll find him a font of misinformation. Answer the question, bigoted punk: are the facts about who earns minimum wage, and for how long, correct or not? Show competing conclusions, if you have any (heh heh heh). Go learn for yourself without the right wing spin... http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpswp2000.htm |
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