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jps wrote:
In article .net, says... I have lived there, for a year, and I've visited several times. It's an outstanding place. What happened, couldn't afford to live there? I was an exchange student. You ran your mouth without the relevant facts. Moron. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
jps wrote: In article .net, says... Don White wrote: Tell Wenger & Victorinox that they don't manufacture anything. Why is 'Made in Switzerland' stamped on my Swiss Army watch? Don't be a twit. I didn't say they didn't manufacture anything. What percentage of their economy depends on manufacturing, and what major things do they manufacture? You don't seriously believe they enjoy one of the highest living standards in the world based on the export pocketknives, do you? No, when they run out of money to float the fake, incredibly inflated economy they run in Switzerland, they pry open another unclaimed vault of gold yanked from Jews teeth. Yeouch! I was thinking that, but you had the cojones to say it, as it were. He has none. He's utterly gutless. So are you. You're a punk. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... You're comparing tiny Switzerland to the United States? Now there's a giggle for you. Besides, nearly half of the Swiss economy is based upon manufacturing. From the CIA World Factbook - Switzerland: services 69.1%, industry 26.3%, agriculture 4.6% (1998) Industries: machinery, chemicals, watches, textiles, precision instruments Industrial production growth rate: 3.2% (2001) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...s/sz.html#Econ Probably right...but, sheesh, the CIA Handbook? Quick & easy, as long as you don't need a ton of detail. A ****load of people at the CIA have extremely boring jobs. I didn't mean that...I meant trusting anything presented by the CIA. Why wouldn't you trust them, particularly on something as mundane as that? Are you admitting to be an irrational conspiracy-believing twit? |
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... Around here, WalMarts will match any price of any product advertised by any other store with exceptions of coupons or buy 1 get 1 free items. Most of the time they will match the "special card" prices also. Ed Will they send someone down the road to the real supermarket to bring you back some edible lettuce? :-) |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Ed" wrote in message ... Around here, WalMarts will match any price of any product advertised by any other store with exceptions of coupons or buy 1 get 1 free items. Most of the time they will match the "special card" prices also. Ed Will they send someone down the road to the real supermarket to bring you back some edible lettuce? :-) We haven't had any problem with their produce, at least no more than with Kroger's, SuperOne, Brookshires. Lettuce is fine, tomatoes taste...not make that tasteless, etc. I think they all get it from the same suppliers. The best produce here is from the locals when available. Ed |
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"Ed" wrote Around here, WalMarts will match any price of any product advertised by any other store with exceptions of coupons or buy 1 get 1 free items. Most of the time they will match the "special card" prices also. Ed The local Super K here posts ALL stores ads on a kiosk when you walk in. They give the same prices as any other store. I personally find it offensive that one has to get a "card" to get "special member pricing". Just tell me how much it is, and I will buy it or not. And then when you scan out, at the end, they punch a button, and all the discounts blaze across the display that you can't evaluate how much you DID pay. I went to a store the other day, and they wanted to know my PHONE NUMBER. I asked what for, and they said it was so they could mail something. I asked how they would get my address from a phone number, and the girl said that they got it from the directory. Sure. Just put the price on the damn thing. Like K Mart does. Steve |
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... | Finally, I notice in two WM stores here that about 1/3 of the groceries | don't have unit pricing stickers on the shelves. That's another reason | customers think they're getting a low price. Unless you walk around with a | calculator, it's tricky to compare two jars of salsa, on of which contains | 17.38 oz and the other 32.50 oz. Real grocery stores here have unit pricing | on everything, and it's NOT required by law in this county. Wal-mart does not have an exclusive on that option. Last we were in Houston we visited a high end market (they have a self proclaimed 'three star' restaurant on site). Unit price on any number of various size jars and packages was 'per each' Well, yell at the manager. Or, collect register tapes from your last few visits to his competitor. Stop in and ask if he'd like to add them up, and be the recipient of that money in the future. I did that when I bought my last car. Two dealers were within $100 of each other. One was much more convenient and I would've preferred to buy from them. But, I had questions about towing with the vehicle. The salesman kept telling me to check the Toyota web site. At the other dealership, the saleswoman knew all the answers. And, she knew which of their mechanics either owned the same truck or were well versed in towing issues and its effects on the vehicle. She got a mechanic out of the shop and he spent time with me, which helped with my selection. I sent the manager of the first dealership a copy of the receipt about a week after I bought from his competitor. I explained why he lost out. I also explained that I wasn't doing it to twist the knife, but to alert him to the fact that he needed to do some work. He actually called and thanked me. Having offered this advice, I wouldn't do the same for a Wal Mart manager. Car dealerships change hands often, and I expect them to be run by slobs or amateurs. Wal Mart should know enough to unit price all groceries. |
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"SteveB" wrote in message
news:Furyb.46240$kl6.44758@fed1read03... The local Super K here posts ALL stores ads on a kiosk when you walk in. They give the same prices as any other store. I personally find it offensive that one has to get a "card" to get "special member pricing". Just tell me how much it is, and I will buy it or not. And then when you scan out, at the end, they punch a button, and all the discounts blaze across the display that you can't evaluate how much you DID pay. I went to a store the other day, and they wanted to know my PHONE NUMBER. I asked what for, and they said it was so they could mail something. I asked how they would get my address from a phone number, and the girl said that they got it from the directory. Sure. She was a dummy. Web designers can buy a phone/address cross reference service, just like programmers can buy all sorts of ready-made modules rather than program certain things themselves. Just put the price on the damn thing. Like K Mart does. K-Mart's coming back from chapter 11 with a vengeance. I think the public's going to be pleasantly surprised. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "SteveB" wrote in message news:Furyb.46240$kl6.44758@fed1read03... The local Super K here posts ALL stores ads on a kiosk when you walk in. They give the same prices as any other store. I personally find it offensive that one has to get a "card" to get "special member pricing". Just tell me how much it is, and I will buy it or not. And then when you scan out, at the end, they punch a button, and all the discounts blaze across the display that you can't evaluate how much you DID pay. I went to a store the other day, and they wanted to know my PHONE NUMBER. I asked what for, and they said it was so they could mail something. I asked how they would get my address from a phone number, and the girl said that they got it from the directory. Sure. She was a dummy. Web designers can buy a phone/address cross reference service, just like programmers can buy all sorts of ready-made modules rather than program certain things themselves. Just put the price on the damn thing. Like K Mart does. K-Mart's coming back from chapter 11 with a vengeance. I think the public's going to be pleasantly surprised. I still don't like their checkout system, but I have noticed that some WalMarts are going the same way. Ed |
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"Ed" wrote in message
... K-Mart's coming back from chapter 11 with a vengeance. I think the public's going to be pleasantly surprised. I still don't like their checkout system, but I have noticed that some WalMarts are going the same way. Ed The checkouts here seem normal. What's up with the ones you've seen? |
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Jonathan Ball wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: Don Bruder wrote: In article , Don wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Jeff We haven't bought anything at Wal-Mart in years. It is among the most exploitative employers in the United States, a real rogue corporation, that screws its workers and its suppliers at every opportunity. Wal-Mart, if you will, treats its employees as if they were Iraqis. If their employees are being treated as badly as you say, why is it that no union has been able to organize them? Don Because Wal-Mart Inc. has a carved-in-stone anti-union stance. They will (and have, multiple times) fired everybody on the payroll and shut down the entire store rather than allow a union to get so much as a toenail clipping (never mind a foot...) in the door. Prove it. Federal law mandates union certification elections, if enough employees ask for one. hahahahahahohohohohohhehehehehe This government is about as anti-union as Wal-Mart. Non sequitur. Wal-Mart must hold a union certification election if enough employees ask for one. Their anti-union stance doesn't enter into it. The "law" has been looking the other way for the last three years, for the most part. Prove it, liar. Prove it? Yes. Prove it, liar. Hehehe. There's a ka-zillion cases that have built up the last few years that show how anti-labor the NLRB has become, at the urging the Bush-shippers. That's not proof; you've merely offered another unsupported claim. Prove it, liar. If you are that interested, the cites are easy enough to find. Find them, liar. Ahh, I see. You came across a cross-posting sea. Well, head back to your island of bigotry, rightie. -- Email sent to is never read. |
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jps wrote:
In article .net, says... jps wrote: be a twit. I didn't say they didn't manufacture anything. What percentage of their economy depends on manufacturing, and what major things do they manufacture? You don't seriously believe they enjoy one of the highest living standards in the world based on the export pocketknives, do you? No, when they run out of money to float the fake, incredibly inflated economy they run in Switzerland, they pry open another unclaimed vault of gold yanked from Jews teeth. You disgusting bigot. Bigot? Based on what, the truth? Do you know what the word bigot means? Why don't you just tell me how Switzerland really floats their economny, smart boy? Sure thing, bigot. Their economy is based (not "floated", your needless and bogus pejorative) on the provision of some sophisticated services, chiefly financial ones, to the rest of the world. Anything else you'd like to know, bigot? I only want to help you; to lift the scales from your eyes. |
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says... jps wrote: In article .net, says... I have lived there, for a year, and I've visited several times. It's an outstanding place. What happened, couldn't afford to live there? I was an exchange student. That's a cheap way to live in a country where the poverty rate is about $50K/yr. Just how is it Switzerland lives so highly on such a small economy? Isn't that something they taught you about when you were living there? The Jewish Holocaust may have been perpetrated by Germans, but many countries profited be being conduits (and complicit) for arms, money, looted treasures and other valuables. Switzerlans is just such a country. Most people think of Switzerland's neutrality as non-military which is far from the truth. They are very well armed on all borders. The closer truth is they collect tolls from whomever and whatever is passing through. Why not do a little research, then you can post something of value. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Ed" wrote in message ... K-Mart's coming back from chapter 11 with a vengeance. I think the public's going to be pleasantly surprised. I still don't like their checkout system, but I have noticed that some WalMarts are going the same way. Ed The checkouts here seem normal. What's up with the ones you've seen? Finding one with a person to check you out. Each one of the self-checkouts means 3-6 less workers. And self-service is about all they have in K-Marts. Ed |
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jps wrote:
In article k.net, says... jps wrote: In article .net, says... I have lived there, for a year, and I've visited several times. It's an outstanding place. What happened, couldn't afford to live there? I was an exchange student. You ran your mouth without the relevant facts. Moron. That's a cheap way to live in a country where the poverty rate is about $50K/yr. Just how is it Switzerland lives so highly on such a small economy? High productivity. |
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Doug Kanter wrote: Probably right...but, sheesh, the CIA Handbook? Quick & easy, as long as you don't need a ton of detail. A ****load of people at the CIA have extremely boring jobs. I don't know why this is but when looking up maps of countries and basic statistics, a good many are from CIA data. Must be a free source. Not very detailed and often not very current. LZ |
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... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Ed" wrote in message ... K-Mart's coming back from chapter 11 with a vengeance. I think the public's going to be pleasantly surprised. I still don't like their checkout system, but I have noticed that some WalMarts are going the same way. Ed The checkouts here seem normal. What's up with the ones you've seen? Finding one with a person to check you out. Each one of the self-checkouts means 3-6 less workers. And self-service is about all they have in K-Marts. Ed Those machines are candidates for bullets. When visiting a friend in another part of NY state, I used to go with her to a Price Chopper supermarket. I tend to NOT put every damned thing in a bag when I shop, but the machine was programmed to look for a change in weight on the bag platform after each item was scanned. This computerized voice would keep saying "Put item in bag....put item in bag...." A gallon of milk in its own bag??? So, I tried keeping one heavy item aside as a way of helping the machine feel comfortable. Didn't work. It seemed to know the approximate weights of packaged foods, and if the degree of change on the bag platform was wrong, it wouldn't let me continue. |
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"Lone Haranguer" wrote in message
... Doug Kanter wrote: Probably right...but, sheesh, the CIA Handbook? Quick & easy, as long as you don't need a ton of detail. A ****load of people at the CIA have extremely boring jobs. I don't know why this is but when looking up maps of countries and basic statistics, a good many are from CIA data. Must be a free source. Not very detailed and often not very current. LZ I'm sure we could find more accurate stuff by simply looking for web sites from the governments of various countries. But, I'm really busy cleaning fishing reels, rising bread dough, drying laundry, listening to music, and waiting for Molson Golden to reach the perfect temperature. Who cares about GNPs of Switzerland? |
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On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:10:55 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:
Those machines are candidates for bullets. When visiting a friend in another part of NY state, I used to go with her to a Price Chopper supermarket. I tend to NOT put every damned thing in a bag when I shop, but the machine was programmed to look for a change in weight on the bag platform after each item was scanned. This computerized voice would keep saying "Put item in bag....put item in bag...." A gallon of milk in its own bag??? Yeah, I hate those damn things. The local Kroger has them. I like to scan everything, pay, *then* bag directly into the cart, like in a real checkout line. Walmart's machines let you do that. But the stupid machines at Kroger won't. I've found that if I act dumb, the supervising cashier will sometimes, in exasperation, come over and scan and bag my purchase for me. If that doesn't work, I've just walked out, leaving my half scanned load of groceries for the clerk to put back on the shelves. After I did that a couple of times at the Kroger, they now open up a real checkout line when they see me coming. Heh, heh. Gary |
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In article .net,
says... jps wrote: In article k.net, says... jps wrote: In article .net, says... I have lived there, for a year, and I've visited several times. It's an outstanding place. What happened, couldn't afford to live there? I was an exchange student. You ran your mouth without the relevant facts. Moron. That's a cheap way to live in a country where the poverty rate is about $50K/yr. Just how is it Switzerland lives so highly on such a small economy? High productivity. Bull****, they collect tolls off of blood money. Their fake economy is floated on the backs of people who've been stolen from and worse. Do a little research and your eyes will be opened. Then maybe you can answer to the rest of my claims rather than cherry picking with a vapid answer. |
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jps wrote:
What happened, couldn't afford to live there? Outstanding it may be but it's economy is way inflated. Poverty is $50K a year there. How can you say it's inflated, they live on exports and sell in the world markets. They compete very well without sinking to the level of Walmart. It may be a very expensive place for us to live but the percentage of Swiss living below the poverty line doesn't even rate a decimal place while ours (US) is around 13 percent. That says something about their economy and how they use it. Rick |
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2003, Dave Thompson wrote:
In each case when Wal-Mart/Sam's Club, Costco, Home Depot or Lowe's came to town all the small INEFFICIENT retails sang songs of woe. In every case, those retailers who studies their markets and offered selection and service survived and prospered. Those who had been lazy and grossly overcharging their customers promptly went out of business; deservedly so. Well said. What also isn't mentioned is that those small inefficient retailers which gouge their customers often pay their employees LESS than Wal*Mart. Most pay minimum wage and expect their employees to put in unpaid overtime. When a Wal*Mart begins construction the first thing the employees at the dinky little stores do is fill out job applications at Wal*Mart. A Wal*Mart is opening locally next year. I can predict which local retailers will die and which ones will survive. None of the doomed ones will be missed. In the case of one particular business, I will cheer when it closes its doors. The owner offended me to the point that I will drive 30+ miles to get to (what is now) the nearest Wal*Mart rather than buy from there, even if the cost of the gas is more than the price savings. Needless to say, that individual is one of the head cheerleaders of the anti-Wal*Mart group (which just lost their final appeal). As for the ones that will survive... They're the ones which, when I ask about something they don't carry, say "We can order that for you, and if you're in a hurry I can have it fedex'ed here tommorrow." They're the ones who want to sell me the products that I want to buy (as opposed to the products they want to sell). -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. Si vis pacem, para bellum. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Ed" wrote in message ... Around here, WalMarts will match any price of any product advertised by any other store with exceptions of coupons or buy 1 get 1 free items. Most of the time they will match the "special card" prices also. Ed Will they send someone down the road to the real supermarket to bring you back some edible lettuce? :-) What's with some peoples obsession for wal-mart and produce? Not every wal-mart is a supercenter that sells groceries, why not concentrate on the items that they ALL sell? |
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"Ed" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Ed" wrote in message ... K-Mart's coming back from chapter 11 with a vengeance. I think the public's going to be pleasantly surprised. I still don't like their checkout system, but I have noticed that some WalMarts are going the same way. Ed The checkouts here seem normal. What's up with the ones you've seen? Finding one with a person to check you out. Each one of the self-checkouts means 3-6 less workers. And self-service is about all they have in K-Marts. Ed I wonder if that also means 3 to 6 less people in line with coupons/checks/not enuf money and sending things back etc. I kind of like em :) |
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"Jonathan Ball" wrote in message link.net... Harry Krause wrote: Doug Kanter wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... You're comparing tiny Switzerland to the United States? Now there's a giggle for you. Besides, nearly half of the Swiss economy is based upon manufacturing. From the CIA World Factbook - Switzerland: services 69.1%, industry 26.3%, agriculture 4.6% (1998) Industries: machinery, chemicals, watches, textiles, precision instruments Industrial production growth rate: 3.2% (2001) http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...s/sz.html#Econ Probably right...but, sheesh, the CIA Handbook? Quick & easy, as long as you don't need a ton of detail. A ****load of people at the CIA have extremely boring jobs. I didn't mean that...I meant trusting anything presented by the CIA. Why wouldn't you trust them, particularly on something as mundane as that? Are you admitting to be an irrational conspiracy-believing twit? I think there is a conspiracy here of illiterate people that can't read. it says CIA FACTBOOK not HANDBOOK |
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jchaplain wrote:
Please spread this word around, it's for our own good. Cheers! Jeff Let me be the first to say NO to Walmart. I will go and scream it at their front door. I will, however, continue to shop there. Steve I'm with Steve on this. Reason being is that Walmart is only one of the many many companies in the US that do this. I worked at General Electric Aircraft Engine supplier companies and GE buyers are *******s the way they treat the suppliers. Are you not going to fly or buy lightbulbs? Its the whole republican support the corporation screw the working guy thing that needs to be fought. Our jobs are going overseas because our politicians have no interest in fighting corporations from sending jobs overseas. And just how are they supposed to accomplish this without interfering in free market trade? The economy has become global, like it or not. Unless you are in favor of total isolationism (which would be counterproductive), you cannot force companies to not utilize foreign labor, especially if they sell in foreign markets. Remember, for every "protectionist" policy that our government might pass to "protect" American workers, another foreign country can pass their own version to counter ours. Do we want a piece of the world market? Then we have to play nicely with the other kids. As for republicans not caring about American jobs, who signed NAFTA? Dave |
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Gould 0738 wrote:
Our jobs are going overseas because our politicians have no interest in fighting corporations from sending jobs overseas. Our jobs are going overseas faster than they would have partially because WALMART is so super aggressive in their buying. When they want to carry toasters, for example, they invite all the major manufacturers of toasters down to Arkansas and pit them against one another. During the last cost cutting cycle, everybody who wanted to sell anyhing to WALMART *had* to go to China for labor or lose out. Welcome to free market 101. Competition is what sets prices. WALMART doesn't tell a mfg that they *must* build in China- only that if they can't meet or beat the price of those who do they are, effectively, out of business starting next month. They can always sell to Sears, Or any of the other thriving store chains. What will the next sacrifice be? Quality? Probably. Quality is usually the first thing trimmed when further costs reductions become impractical. Or, when WALMART can no longer increase profits by forcing suppliers to cheaper sources of labor, will WALMART raise prices? Will we soon be paying as much as we used to pay for a US built, item but buying stuff from China instead? That's the way the market works. WALMART's vision for America is a place where a $9 an hour job, with no benefits, is a *great* opportunity. They envision a country where obedient workers volunteer to work off the clock every week, and where all will shop a the "company store." In Walmart's world, there is no middle class. Unless $9 an hour, with a few extra hours thrown in unpaid every week, is going to be the new "middle class." The problem is that this "model" will not support continued consumption of their store goods. $9 an hour people are not buying home theatre systems, DVD's, big screen TV's, major appliances, electronic widgets etc. If this truly becomes the new "middle class", then Wal-Mart is in for a shock, and will be forced to cut prices further. In Walmart's World, there are some opportunities for better income. If you're willing to work 50-51 weeks a year, 12-18 hours a day, 6-7 days a week, you can eventually rise to "store manager" and approach 6-figures a year. :-( Welcome to retail. This is nothing new. Why treat it as such? One of the great hypocrisies of the WalMart culture is the great emphasis on quality "family" experiences. How many of the managers working 80 hours a week or more have any quality time left to spend with the family? How many of the people earing $9 an hour get to go home after work, rather than to the second,part time job they need to pay basic living expenses? So how many Wal-Mart managers do you know? Dave |
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"Peter Pan" wrote in message
... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Ed" wrote in message ... Around here, WalMarts will match any price of any product advertised by any other store with exceptions of coupons or buy 1 get 1 free items. Most of the time they will match the "special card" prices also. Ed Will they send someone down the road to the real supermarket to bring you back some edible lettuce? :-) What's with some peoples obsession for wal-mart and produce? Not every wal-mart is a supercenter that sells groceries, why not concentrate on the items that they ALL sell? I focus on groceries because that's what gets people in WM's door in many cases. Speaking only for myself, I only buy two categories of goods EVERY week: Food and gasoline. How often does one need clothing. If the consumer gives all her grocery business to WM, she may be unpleasantly surprised at some point in the future when the other grocers vanish from the neighborhood. This is unlikely in larger markets, but inevitable in smaller ones. Then, when you need to speak to an actual butcher for advice on a special cut of meat, you'll instead get a typical WM response from an associate: "I dunno....maybe one of them beefs over there next to the chicken". |
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... I wonder if that also means 3 to 6 less people in line with coupons/checks/not enuf money and sending things back etc. I kind of like em :) There are solutions for that, other than machines. One of our local stores has experimented with a no-nonsense cashier line during the busy late afternoon hours when people are shopping on the way home from work. Rules: No coupons, no paper checks, no food stamps, no price questions, no special problems of any kind. If you disagree with the scanned price, the item's removed from your order. You can take it to the customer service desk and deal with it. And, cash only. Green cash money. On a typical day, the line of customers was almost 100% men. No old ladies ready to do battle with the current newspaper circular in their hands. I'm not sure why the store stopped the experiment, although I suspect it was because the scan error rate is already pretty much zero. Contrast this with an interesting experience I had at WM one night around 11 PM. Two cashiers open, and I was #2 in line. Ahead of me, 4 women were buying a huge load of groceries. One tried to pay with plastic, but it wasn't approved. She opened her purse and pulled out a 3" thick stack of credit cards held together with a rubber band. After trying 5-6 of them, one of her friends began doing the same. All four women tried various cards, to no avail. Some of the cards had just a few dollars on them, which surprised the women as if they didn't own the cards and had no knowledge as to the status of the accounts. The line behind me had grown to about a dozen customers, as had the line at the other cashier. Meanwhile, a guy paced back and forth watching the scene and doing nothing. He turned out to be the manager, as I found out when I suggested to the cashier that she call the manager. He wandered over, looking disinterested. I suggested that he might want to open a 3rd register himself because the lines were now so long that they reached back into the merchandise aisles. His response: "Managers aren't supposed to operate the registers". I walked away from my cart, leaving it in front of him. When I drove by the entrance, the four credit card thieves were leaving without their groceries. A real store would've moved those women out of the line, and perhaps even called the police. Not WM, though. As far as they're concerned, their customers' time is worthless. |
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Fred Ziffel wrote:
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 20:21:17 GMT, Jonathan Ball wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Jonathan Ball wrote: Paul Schilter wrote: Steve, I understand your point and you're right, clothes and electronics are very hard to buy American. Why would it be important to do so? Nativist/protectionist sentiment is a bad thing. You don't think it important to have manufacturing capabilities? No. Switzerland doesn't manufacture cars, aircraft, ships, consumer electronics, or much of anything else. The Swiss live enviable lives and lifestyles. You're comparing tiny Switzerland to the United States? Yes. Now there's a giggle for you. Besides, nearly half of the Swiss economy is based upon manufacturing. No, it isn't. I don't know the exact percentages for manufacturing in your country, but the Sears Craftsman Heavy-Duty heat gun that I have sitting in front of me was manufactured in Switzerland. It is a very high quality product. Doubtless. The things they do manufacture generally tend to be very high quality. I have a spinning reel that I inherited from my grandfather over 30 years ago, and I think it probably was 20-30 years old when I got it from him. It's excellent. It doesn't mean Switzerland is primarily a manufacturing economy. They aren't. They are primarily a service economy. Services account directly for twice as much of their GDP as does manufacturing, and the bulk of what is counted as "manufacturing" is actually services. Nothing wrong with Switzerland, but I wish it was made in the USA, like everything used to be. That's stupid thinking. Why do you really care where it's made? Borders are arbitrary. For things that are made in the U.S., do you care that they're made in your state? For things that are made in your state, do you care that they're made in your county? We used to make very high quality products too. We still do. We make those things where we have some comparative advantage. Increasingly, the things we make are not tangible. That doesn't make them any less valuable. We don't make much of anything anymore, and we are becoming poorer because of it. No. |
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Doug Kanter wrote:
If the consumer gives all her grocery business to WM, she may be unpleasantly surprised at some point in the future when the other grocers vanish from the neighborhood. This already happened, in the 1940s and 50s, when the supermarket killed off many neighborhood markets, butchers, etc. Not new. Think: King Canute. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Peter Pan" wrote in message ... I wonder if that also means 3 to 6 less people in line with coupons/checks/not enuf money and sending things back etc. I kind of like em :) There are solutions for that, other than machines. One of our local stores has experimented with a no-nonsense cashier line during the busy late afternoon hours when people are shopping on the way home from work. Rules: No coupons, no paper checks, no food stamps, no price questions, no special problems of any kind. If you disagree with the scanned price, the item's removed from your order. You can take it to the customer service desk and deal with it. And, cash only. Green cash money. On a typical day, the line of customers was almost 100% men. No old ladies ready to do battle with the current newspaper circular in their hands. I'm not sure why the store stopped the experiment, although I suspect it was because the scan error rate is already pretty much zero. Contrast this with an interesting experience I had at WM one night around 11 PM. Two cashiers open, and I was #2 in line. Ahead of me, 4 women were buying a huge load of groceries. One tried to pay with plastic, but it wasn't approved. She opened her purse and pulled out a 3" thick stack of credit cards held together with a rubber band. After trying 5-6 of them, one of her friends began doing the same. All four women tried various cards, to no avail. Some of the cards had just a few dollars on them, which surprised the women as if they didn't own the cards and had no knowledge as to the status of the accounts. The line behind me had grown to about a dozen customers, as had the line at the other cashier. Meanwhile, a guy paced back and forth watching the scene and doing nothing. He turned out to be the manager, as I found out when I suggested to the cashier that she call the manager. He wandered over, looking disinterested. I suggested that he might want to open a 3rd register himself because the lines were now so long that they reached back into the merchandise aisles. His response: "Managers aren't supposed to operate the registers". I walked away from my cart, leaving it in front of him. When I drove by the entrance, the four credit card thieves were leaving without their groceries. A real store would've moved those women out of the line, and perhaps even called the police. Not WM, though. As far as they're concerned, their customers' time is worthless. I see, the customer screws up and that is the stores fault. Granted the manager should have opened another register if possible. (they would have at the W-Ms around here) The people that work at Wal-Mart as well as all of the other stores are just people, subject to the same weaknesses and strengths as everyone else, they sometimes make mistakes in judgment. Why do some people get $200.00 worth of groceries when they only have $50.00 on them, and then pick and choose the things to be put back while the cashier has to void out each item? Jack Cassidy |
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