damn, you really take your boats seriously if you take those two things in
the same light.

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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We can't help ourselves. EG

Bayliner: The only boat that comes standard with a free ski rope. And
printed instructions for attaching it to the bow cleat.

-W

Know any good ****** jokes? They would be just as accurate, and would
appeal to
the same sensibilities.

damn, you really take your boats seriously if you take those two things in
the same light.



Ignorant prejudice always radiates the same light, regardless of subject
matter.

It's not ignorant prejudice. It was a joke based on my opinion that
Bayliners reach POS status sooner than other brands as the years roll by.

When my Four Winns was mowed down last summer. The first suitable
replacemet hull we came across on Ebay was an 18' 2002 Bayliner. I added
the line "Please Lord , let another boat pop up so we don't have to buy that
Bayliner." to my bedtime prayers. My Seaswirl appeared and was closed on
the morning of my birthday. That night, I thanked God profusely for the
Seaswirl and for sparing me the wretched curse of owning a Bayliner.

I once owned a Vega wagon...... I *paid* my vehicular dues in life already.

-W



"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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damn, you really take your boats seriously if you take those two things
in
the same light.



Ignorant prejudice always radiates the same light, regardless of subject
matter.

It's not ignorant prejudice. It was a joke based on my opinion that
Bayliners

Just lumping all "Bayliners" into the same statement is a prejudice. Is it
accurate to compare a new 16' BMT combo sold for $9995 with a $300,000 cruiser?
The disposa-boat shouldn't be confused with
a generally average quality offering- and vice versa.

Gould 0738 wrote:

It's not ignorant prejudice. It was a joke based on my opinion that
Bayliners

Just lumping all "Bayliners" into the same statement is a prejudice. Is it
accurate to compare a new 16' BMT combo sold for $9995 with a $300,000 cruiser?
The disposa-boat shouldn't be confused with
a generally average quality offering- and vice versa.


For $300,000, Chuckster, I would want something more in a boat than a
"generally average quality offering." And I'd get it.

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For $300,000, Chuckster, I would want something more in a boat than a
"generally average quality offering." And I'd get it.



Many of your quality evaluations would be highly subjective. That's OK, same
with almost everybody else on most issues.

Then the trick becomes getting the "right" answer to the following question.
(Personally, I don't know what the right answer is... and right for one person
isn't going to be right for the next)

"For $300,000, shall I buy a generally average quality, 33' boat at least
adequately seaworthy for its intended use and then some- or for the same money
shall I instead select an exceptionally high quality 27' boat adequately
seaworthy for its intended use and then some?

Only people who have never really been around a boat in their whole life would
actually suspect that the only thing you get for 30-times the price of the
$9995 BMT combo is "bigger."

Gould 0738 wrote:

For $300,000, Chuckster, I would want something more in a boat than a
"generally average quality offering." And I'd get it.



Many of your quality evaluations would be highly subjective. That's OK, same
with almost everybody else on most issues.


Subjective? I don't think so, Chuck. I've been around long enough to
tell what makes up "quality" in a $300,000 boat.



Then the trick becomes getting the "right" answer to the following question.
(Personally, I don't know what the right answer is... and right for one person
isn't going to be right for the next)

"For $300,000, shall I buy a generally average quality, 33' boat at least
adequately seaworthy for its intended use and then some- or for the same money
shall I instead select an exceptionally high quality 27' boat adequately
seaworthy for its intended use and then some?

For around $300,000 you can indeed buy a high-quality boat of more than
30 feet. Isn't the American Tug 34' around $300,000-$325,000? It would
be of higher than average quality, and more than adequately seaworthy.

I've been aboard Bayliners that sell for far more than $325,000, and
have found them cheaply made and with bad handling characteristics.





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Bayliner doesn't *have* a $300,000 cruiser. Brunswick was smart enough to
get that name off them. Thusly we now have Meridian Yachts. And have you
noticed that on the Trophy fishing boats the "Bayliner" part is getting
smaller and smaller fonts?

I think you're gonna see Brunswick reserve the Bayliner branding for
"disposa-boats".

-W

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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It's not ignorant prejudice. It was a joke based on my opinion that
Bayliners

Just lumping all "Bayliners" into the same statement is a prejudice. Is it
accurate to compare a new 16' BMT combo sold for $9995 with a $300,000
cruiser?
The disposa-boat shouldn't be confused with
a generally average quality offering- and vice versa.