On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 17:57:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


This is a simple and excellent graph that illustrates how
the response to the coronavirus issue is being handled.

The idea that it can be 100% contained is unrealistic.
It's going to spread .... as it has.

The goal is to control as much as possible the rate
that it spreads so the healthcare facilities and systems
are not overwhelmed.

The peak (in orange) is what happened in China.
The goal of the CDC is the second peak.

Despite all the hype, fears and finger-pointing
(political) this graph is spot on.


https://funkyimg.com/i/331q1.jpg


Heard this morning news that the death rate is 10x flu rate.

Based on what? There is no good estimate of the denominator. For many
folks, the symptoms are no
worse than a cold, and the illness never gets reported. Of course, those
facts don't assist in
Trump-bashing, so not mentioned.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Faux news? Was a news report. The flu this year seems to be nasty
version. Wife seems to have flu, and we had flu shots. Doctor on video
chat figured flu. COVID is a version of SARS, so most likely the death
rate is higher. And older people have more breathing problems anyway.

We're losing 4-10K per month to the flu. Doesn't make the news though. Not a good source of
Trump-bashing.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm
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Freedom Isn't Free!

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 17:57:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


This is a simple and excellent graph that illustrates how
the response to the coronavirus issue is being handled.

The idea that it can be 100% contained is unrealistic.
It's going to spread .... as it has.

The goal is to control as much as possible the rate
that it spreads so the healthcare facilities and systems
are not overwhelmed.

The peak (in orange) is what happened in China.
The goal of the CDC is the second peak.

Despite all the hype, fears and finger-pointing
(political) this graph is spot on.


https://funkyimg.com/i/331q1.jpg


Heard this morning news that the death rate is 10x flu rate.

Based on what? There is no good estimate of the denominator. For many
folks, the symptoms are no
worse than a cold, and the illness never gets reported. Of course, those
facts don't assist in
Trump-bashing, so not mentioned.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Faux news? Was a news report. The flu this year seems to be nasty
version. Wife seems to have flu, and we had flu shots. Doctor on video
chat figured flu. COVID is a version of SARS, so most likely the death
rate is higher. And older people have more breathing problems anyway.

We're losing 4-10K per month to the flu. Doesn't make the news though. Not a good source of
Trump-bashing.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


But look at the percentage. 34 million cases with 20 thousand deaths is
..05%. cOVID-19 is 1-8% deaths. 34 million at 2% would be 680,000 deaths.

On 3/11/20 6:28 PM, Bill wrote:
Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 17:57:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


This is a simple and excellent graph that illustrates how
the response to the coronavirus issue is being handled.

The idea that it can be 100% contained is unrealistic.
It's going to spread .... as it has.

The goal is to control as much as possible the rate
that it spreads so the healthcare facilities and systems
are not overwhelmed.

The peak (in orange) is what happened in China.
The goal of the CDC is the second peak.

Despite all the hype, fears and finger-pointing
(political) this graph is spot on.


https://funkyimg.com/i/331q1.jpg


Heard this morning news that the death rate is 10x flu rate.

Based on what? There is no good estimate of the denominator. For many
folks, the symptoms are no
worse than a cold, and the illness never gets reported. Of course, those
facts don't assist in
Trump-bashing, so not mentioned.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Faux news? Was a news report. The flu this year seems to be nasty
version. Wife seems to have flu, and we had flu shots. Doctor on video
chat figured flu. COVID is a version of SARS, so most likely the death
rate is higher. And older people have more breathing problems anyway.

We're losing 4-10K per month to the flu. Doesn't make the news though. Not a good source of
Trump-bashing.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


But look at the percentage. 34 million cases with 20 thousand deaths is
.05%. cOVID-19 is 1-8% deaths. 34 million at 2% would be 680,000 deaths.



Sadly, we are all in the high risk group...but I read somewhere it hits
Trumpsters the hardest. (No, I didn't...that's just a bit of funning
on my part.)

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 3/11/20 6:28 PM, Bill wrote: Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Adorable Deplorable wrote: On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 17:57:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote: Mr. Luddite wrote: This is a simple and excellent graph that illustrates how the response to the coronavirus issue is being handled. The idea that it can be 100% contained is unrealistic. It's going to spread .... as it has. The goal is to control as much as possible the rate that it spreads so the healthcare facilities and systems are not overwhelmed. The peak (in orange) is what happened in China. The goal of the CDC is the second peak. Despite all the hype, fears and finger-pointing (political) this graph is spot on. https://funkyimg.com/i/331q1.jpg Heard this morning news that the death rate is 10x flu rate. Based on what? There is no good estimate of the denominator. For many folks, the symptoms are no worse than a cold, and the illness never gets reported. Of course, those facts don't assist in Trump-bashing, so not mentioned. -- Freedom Isn't Free! Faux news? Was a news report. The flu this year seems to be nasty version. Wife seems to have flu, and we had flu shots. Doctor on video chat figured flu. COVID is a version of SARS, so most likely the death rate is higher. And older people have more breathing problems anyway. We're losing 4-10K per month to the flu. Doesn't make the news though. Not a good source of Trump-bashing. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm -- Freedom Isn't Free! But look at the percentage. 34 million cases with 20 thousand deaths is .05%. cOVID-19 is 1-8% deaths. 34 million at 2% would be 680,000 deaths. Sadly, we are all in the high risk group...but I read somewhere it hits Trumpsters the hardest. (No, I didn't...that's just a bit of funning on my part.)

You're definately a sickie, Fat Harry.
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On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 22:28:44 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 17:57:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


This is a simple and excellent graph that illustrates how
the response to the coronavirus issue is being handled.

The idea that it can be 100% contained is unrealistic.
It's going to spread .... as it has.

The goal is to control as much as possible the rate
that it spreads so the healthcare facilities and systems
are not overwhelmed.

The peak (in orange) is what happened in China.
The goal of the CDC is the second peak.

Despite all the hype, fears and finger-pointing
(political) this graph is spot on.


https://funkyimg.com/i/331q1.jpg


Heard this morning news that the death rate is 10x flu rate.

Based on what? There is no good estimate of the denominator. For many
folks, the symptoms are no
worse than a cold, and the illness never gets reported. Of course, those
facts don't assist in
Trump-bashing, so not mentioned.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Faux news? Was a news report. The flu this year seems to be nasty
version. Wife seems to have flu, and we had flu shots. Doctor on video
chat figured flu. COVID is a version of SARS, so most likely the death
rate is higher. And older people have more breathing problems anyway.

We're losing 4-10K per month to the flu. Doesn't make the news though. Not a good source of
Trump-bashing.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


But look at the percentage. 34 million cases with 20 thousand deaths is
.05%. cOVID-19 is 1-8% deaths. 34 million at 2% would be 680,000 deaths.

You don't know the actual denominator. There are many covid cases that don't have enough symptoms to
see a doctor or get diagnosed as a carrier.

“Early estimates of the coronavirus death rate from China, the epicenter of the outbreak, have been
around 2 percent. But a new report on 1,099 cases from many parts of China, published on Friday in
The New England Journal of Medicine, finds a lower rate: 1.4 percent. The coronavirus death rate may
be even lower, if — as most experts suspect — there are many mild or symptom-?free cases that have
not been detected. The true death rate could turn out to be similar to that of a severe seasonal
flu, below 1 percent, according to an editorial published in the journal by Dr. Anthony S. Fauci and
Dr. H. Clifford Lane, of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Dr. Robert
R. Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

https://www.cato.org/blog/covid-19-d...-who-estimates
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On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 16:53:34 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 17:57:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


This is a simple and excellent graph that illustrates how
the response to the coronavirus issue is being handled.

The idea that it can be 100% contained is unrealistic.
It's going to spread .... as it has.

The goal is to control as much as possible the rate
that it spreads so the healthcare facilities and systems
are not overwhelmed.

The peak (in orange) is what happened in China.
The goal of the CDC is the second peak.

Despite all the hype, fears and finger-pointing
(political) this graph is spot on.


https://funkyimg.com/i/331q1.jpg


Heard this morning news that the death rate is 10x flu rate.

Based on what? There is no good estimate of the denominator. For many
folks, the symptoms are no
worse than a cold, and the illness never gets reported. Of course, those
facts don't assist in
Trump-bashing, so not mentioned.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Faux news? Was a news report. The flu this year seems to be nasty
version. Wife seems to have flu, and we had flu shots. Doctor on video
chat figured flu. COVID is a version of SARS, so most likely the death
rate is higher. And older people have more breathing problems anyway.

We're losing 4-10K per month to the flu. Doesn't make the news though. Not a good source of
Trump-bashing.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm


Maybe it is time to go rent a 300 cu/ft oxygen tank and buy a medical
regulator or two. Having oxygen might make the difference between
living or dying if you get sick. I have a full 80 and a 20 in the
garage but I am not sure how long they last. I do have the regulators
and flow gauges too.

wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 16:53:34 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 17:57:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


This is a simple and excellent graph that illustrates how
the response to the coronavirus issue is being handled.

The idea that it can be 100% contained is unrealistic.
It's going to spread .... as it has.

The goal is to control as much as possible the rate
that it spreads so the healthcare facilities and systems
are not overwhelmed.

The peak (in orange) is what happened in China.
The goal of the CDC is the second peak.

Despite all the hype, fears and finger-pointing
(political) this graph is spot on.


https://funkyimg.com/i/331q1.jpg


Heard this morning news that the death rate is 10x flu rate.

Based on what? There is no good estimate of the denominator. For many
folks, the symptoms are no
worse than a cold, and the illness never gets reported. Of course, those
facts don't assist in
Trump-bashing, so not mentioned.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Faux news? Was a news report. The flu this year seems to be nasty
version. Wife seems to have flu, and we had flu shots. Doctor on video
chat figured flu. COVID is a version of SARS, so most likely the death
rate is higher. And older people have more breathing problems anyway.

We're losing 4-10K per month to the flu. Doesn't make the news though.
Not a good source of
Trump-bashing.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm


Maybe it is time to go rent a 300 cu/ft oxygen tank and buy a medical
regulator or two. Having oxygen might make the difference between
living or dying if you get sick. I have a full 80 and a 20 in the
garage but I am not sure how long they last. I do have the regulators
and flow gauges too.


Better have some strong friends for a 300 tank.

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 16:53:34 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 17:57:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


This is a simple and excellent graph that illustrates how
the response to the coronavirus issue is being handled.

The idea that it can be 100% contained is unrealistic.
It's going to spread .... as it has.

The goal is to control as much as possible the rate
that it spreads so the healthcare facilities and systems
are not overwhelmed.

The peak (in orange) is what happened in China.
The goal of the CDC is the second peak.

Despite all the hype, fears and finger-pointing
(political) this graph is spot on.


https://funkyimg.com/i/331q1.jpg


Heard this morning news that the death rate is 10x flu rate.

Based on what? There is no good estimate of the denominator. For many
folks, the symptoms are no
worse than a cold, and the illness never gets reported. Of course, those
facts don't assist in
Trump-bashing, so not mentioned.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Faux news? Was a news report. The flu this year seems to be nasty
version. Wife seems to have flu, and we had flu shots. Doctor on video
chat figured flu. COVID is a version of SARS, so most likely the death
rate is higher. And older people have more breathing problems anyway.

We're losing 4-10K per month to the flu. Doesn't make the news though.
Not a good source of
Trump-bashing.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm


Maybe it is time to go rent a 300 cu/ft oxygen tank and buy a medical
regulator or two. Having oxygen might make the difference between
living or dying if you get sick. I have a full 80 and a 20 in the
garage but I am not sure how long they last. I do have the regulators
and flow gauges too.


Better have some strong friends for a 300 tank.

It is about 140 pounds empty, more with the cap and gas but I have a
hand truck. We had one for Helium at the shop. I moved it around all
the time.
I did a little cyphering and it looks like a 300 would be about 51000
cu/ft at STP. That is 1.444 liters so even at 6-7 L/M that is over
1000 days so I may be overshooting a bit ;-)

My 80 should last a couple hundred days.

wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:45:04 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 16:53:34 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 17:57:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


This is a simple and excellent graph that illustrates how
the response to the coronavirus issue is being handled.

The idea that it can be 100% contained is unrealistic.
It's going to spread .... as it has.

The goal is to control as much as possible the rate
that it spreads so the healthcare facilities and systems
are not overwhelmed.

The peak (in orange) is what happened in China.
The goal of the CDC is the second peak.

Despite all the hype, fears and finger-pointing
(political) this graph is spot on.


https://funkyimg.com/i/331q1.jpg


Heard this morning news that the death rate is 10x flu rate.

Based on what? There is no good estimate of the denominator. For many
folks, the symptoms are no
worse than a cold, and the illness never gets reported. Of course, those
facts don't assist in
Trump-bashing, so not mentioned.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Faux news? Was a news report. The flu this year seems to be nasty
version. Wife seems to have flu, and we had flu shots. Doctor on video
chat figured flu. COVID is a version of SARS, so most likely the death
rate is higher. And older people have more breathing problems anyway.

We're losing 4-10K per month to the flu. Doesn't make the news though.
Not a good source of
Trump-bashing.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm


Maybe it is time to go rent a 300 cu/ft oxygen tank and buy a medical
regulator or two. Having oxygen might make the difference between
living or dying if you get sick. I have a full 80 and a 20 in the
garage but I am not sure how long they last. I do have the regulators
and flow gauges too.


Better have some strong friends for a 300 tank.

It is about 140 pounds empty, more with the cap and gas but I have a
hand truck. We had one for Helium at the shop. I moved it around all
the time.
I did a little cyphering and it looks like a 300 would be about 51000
cu/ft at STP. That is 1.444 liters so even at 6-7 L/M that is over
1000 days so I may be overshooting a bit ;-)

My 80 should last a couple hundred days.


I have 80’s for my O2 and argon. Looking for a user 80 at a decent price
for argon/co2. I exchange tanks anyway.

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 19:32:55 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 16:53:34 -0400, Adorable Deplorable
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:36:27 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Adorable Deplorable wrote:
On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 17:57:57 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:


This is a simple and excellent graph that illustrates how
the response to the coronavirus issue is being handled.

The idea that it can be 100% contained is unrealistic.
It's going to spread .... as it has.

The goal is to control as much as possible the rate
that it spreads so the healthcare facilities and systems
are not overwhelmed.

The peak (in orange) is what happened in China.
The goal of the CDC is the second peak.

Despite all the hype, fears and finger-pointing
(political) this graph is spot on.


https://funkyimg.com/i/331q1.jpg


Heard this morning news that the death rate is 10x flu rate.

Based on what? There is no good estimate of the denominator. For many
folks, the symptoms are no
worse than a cold, and the illness never gets reported. Of course, those
facts don't assist in
Trump-bashing, so not mentioned.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!


Faux news? Was a news report. The flu this year seems to be nasty
version. Wife seems to have flu, and we had flu shots. Doctor on video
chat figured flu. COVID is a version of SARS, so most likely the death
rate is higher. And older people have more breathing problems anyway.

We're losing 4-10K per month to the flu. Doesn't make the news though. Not a good source of
Trump-bashing.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden...-estimates.htm


Maybe it is time to go rent a 300 cu/ft oxygen tank and buy a medical
regulator or two. Having oxygen might make the difference between
living or dying if you get sick. I have a full 80 and a 20 in the
garage but I am not sure how long they last. I do have the regulators
and flow gauges too.

If you already have a respiratory problem, that may not be a bad idea.
--

Freedom Isn't Free!