On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:45:10 -0400, wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/ydgtok3a

Lake city is mil spec stuff.

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How is it possible that a brass case will attract a magnet? Is it
brass plated steel? Somethings fishy.

If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).

John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

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If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
..........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

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If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:48:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

#3 is the reason given at Sharpshooters. I was shooting some Tula 9mm when the guy came out and told
me I couldn't shoot it. I asked how he knew it had steel in it. His response, "I could see the
sparks when the bullet hit the floor." Good enough for me.

John H
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#3 is the reason given at Sharpshooters. I was shooting some Tula 9mm when the guy came out and told
me I couldn't shoot it. I asked how he knew it had steel in it. His response, "I could see the
sparks when the bullet hit the floor." Good enough for me.

.........

I can do nderstand a steel bullet, I thought they were talking about maybe something in the brass castings. Some alloy or something like that...

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:53:40 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H
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#3 is the reason given at Sharpshooters. I was shooting some Tula 9mm when the guy came out and told
me I couldn't shoot it. I asked how he knew it had steel in it. His response, "I could see the
sparks when the bullet hit the floor." Good enough for me.

........

I can do nderstand a steel bullet, I thought they were talking about maybe something in the brass castings. Some alloy or something like that...

The thing is, the folks at the range don't know if the steel is in the case or the bullet. They're
not going to take apart the rounds to see where the steel is, so they just disallow the ammo.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:48:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

The only one that really makes sense is the damage to the backstop.

On 8/1/2018 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:48:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

The only one that really makes sense is the damage to the backstop.



I don't know. The range I used to belong to banned them in the indoor
range as well. They had an elaborate, noisy, heavy duty exhaust system
in the room that had to be on whenever anyone
was shooting to get rid of the gun smoke and vapors. The indoor range
was electronically monitored with sensors as well that would sound an
alarm if residual levels rose above a certain amount. I was told that
the potential of sparks from steel jacketed ammo was the major concern.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 14:16:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/1/2018 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:48:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

The only one that really makes sense is the damage to the backstop.



I don't know. The range I used to belong to banned them in the indoor
range as well. They had an elaborate, noisy, heavy duty exhaust system
in the room that had to be on whenever anyone
was shooting to get rid of the gun smoke and vapors. The indoor range
was electronically monitored with sensors as well that would sound an
alarm if residual levels rose above a certain amount. I was told that
the potential of sparks from steel jacketed ammo was the major concern.

As a guy who had my own range in the basement, I can say, the
ventilation was to get rid of the lead. I had 2 big "gate blowers"
from a 4341 in the trap and when I changed the filters they were full
of powdered lead. I always kept cardboard in front of the throat to
hold the lead dust and jacket material in. It also gave you an easy
place to hang your targets. A 3800 paper box, opened up was perfect so
I had an unending supply. I changed them every day I shot.

On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 14:16:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/1/2018 1:49 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 1 Aug 2018 08:48:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 8/1/18 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:
John H
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 22:04:39 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

- show quoted text -
If it won't pass the magnet test, it can't be fired at my local range (indoors).
.........

I still can’t figure out that ruling.



I've read that steel ammo is banned because:

1. It penetrates backstops and does more damage to them.

2. It tends to ricochet more than brass ammo.

3. It sparks when it strikes objects and those sparks in an
gunpowder-laden atmosphere might cause a flash fire.

I don't know how true any of these reasons are...they're just the ones I
seen in web articles.

I don't like steel ammo or casings...they tend to be harder on firearm
actions and barrels than brass casings and lead ammo.

The only one that really makes sense is the damage to the backstop.



I don't know. The range I used to belong to banned them in the indoor
range as well. They had an elaborate, noisy, heavy duty exhaust system
in the room that had to be on whenever anyone
was shooting to get rid of the gun smoke and vapors. The indoor range
was electronically monitored with sensors as well that would sound an
alarm if residual levels rose above a certain amount. I was told that
the potential of sparks from steel jacketed ammo was the major concern.

Roger that.