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Just Beautiful!
Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 2:16:09 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:21:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 12:13 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:57:39 -0500, John H wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:37:48 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 14:58:39 -0500, John H wrote: Never enjoyed watching a performance more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDiaRZy0Ak === Nice. I understand that there are some people who can listen to that without thinking of Bo Derek. :-) --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Yup, I'se one. I didn't know Bo Derek was in a movie named 'Bolero' until just now. I'm wondering where I was in 1984 when that came out. (I looked it up on You Tube.) Hell, I was right here working at the Army Personnel Center. Too damn busy to go to the movies, I reckon. The "Bolaro" reference was originally from the movie "10". Ravel was never on my favorites list, and he dropped even lower for orchestrating and turning Modest Mussorgsky's lovely Pictures at an Exhibition into a bombastic Herring piece. === Here's some Ravel that may be subtle enough for your delicate sensibilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYNlYMvFA5U Funny. Ravel's version of Pics at an Exhibition is by far the most played and recorded version. Somebody likes it. Is Ravel’s orchestration a homage, a tribute, or a cover? I like it the way the composer wrote it. -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. |
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Just Beautiful!
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text - Is Ravel’s orchestration a homage, a tribute, or a cover? I like it the way the composer wrote it. -- Posted with my iPhone 8+. .... Seeing he was a pianist and wrote it for piano, this is the version you’d appreciate https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjHcuuOPLo |
#3
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Just Beautiful!
On 1/16/18 4:06 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Söze - show quoted text - Is Ravel’s orchestration a homage, a tribute, or a cover? I like it the way the composer wrote it. Seeing he was a pianist and wrote it for piano, this is the version you’d appreciate https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjHcuuOPLo No, Tim, Bolero was NOT written *for* the piano. Like many composers*, Ravel composed on the piano, but the piece was not written for the piano. It was written for ballet, to be performed by an orchestra. *Mozart used the keyboard instruments of his day to noodle out his notes, tunes, compositions. |
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Just Beautiful!
3:46 PMKeyser Soze On 1/16/18 4:06 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Söze - show quoted text - Is Ravel’s orchestration a homage, a tribute, or a cover? I like it the way the composer wrote it. Seeing he was a pianist and wrote it for piano, this is the version you’d appreciate https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjHcuuOPLo No, Tim, Bolero was NOT written *for* the piano. Like many composers*, Ravel composed on the piano, but the piece was not written for the piano. It was written for ballet, to be performed by an orchestra. *Mozart used the keyboard instruments of his day to noodle out his notes, tunes, compositions. ..... Sure it was written for ballet. ON A PIANO. You said you liked the “original” version which was written in piano so, there it is... |
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Just Beautiful!
On 1/16/18 4:54 PM, Tim wrote:
3:46 PMKeyser Soze On 1/16/18 4:06 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Söze - show quoted text - Is Ravel’s orchestration a homage, a tribute, or a cover? I like it the way the composer wrote it. Seeing he was a pianist and wrote it for piano, this is the version you’d appreciate https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjHcuuOPLo No, Tim, Bolero was NOT written *for* the piano. Like many composers*, Ravel composed on the piano, but the piece was not written for the piano. It was written for ballet, to be performed by an orchestra. *Mozart used the keyboard instruments of his day to noodle out his notes, tunes, compositions. .... Sure it was written for ballet. ON A PIANO. You said you liked the “original” version which was written in piano so, there it is... I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM |
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Just Beautiful!
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 17:05:45 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/16/18 4:54 PM, Tim wrote: 3:46 PMKeyser Soze On 1/16/18 4:06 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Sze - show quoted text - Is Ravels orchestration a homage, a tribute, or a cover? I like it the way the composer wrote it. Seeing he was a pianist and wrote it for piano, this is the version youd appreciate https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjHcuuOPLo No, Tim, Bolero was NOT written *for* the piano. Like many composers*, Ravel composed on the piano, but the piece was not written for the piano. It was written for ballet, to be performed by an orchestra. *Mozart used the keyboard instruments of his day to noodle out his notes, tunes, compositions. .... Sure it was written for ballet. ON A PIANO. You said you liked the original version which was written in piano so, there it is... I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM Very nice! Richte does a nice job. In fact, he gets a bit 'bombastic' on that piano! |
#7
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Just Beautiful!
4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM ..... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was |
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Just Beautiful!
On 1/16/18 6:39 PM, Tim wrote:
4:05 PMKeyser Soze - show quoted text - I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM .... Harry, I see google isn’t your friend today... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boléro “ The piece was first published by the Parisian firm Durand in 1929. Arrangements of the piece were made for piano solo and piano duet (two people playing at one piano), and Ravel himself arranged a version for two pianos, published in 1930. The first recording was made by Piero Coppolain Paris[citation needed] for the Gramophone Company on 8 January 1930. The recording session was attended by Ravel.[7] The following day, Ravel conducted the Lamoureux Orchestra in his own recording for Polydor.[8]...” According to this, Piano it was Your wiki post doesn't mean the piece was written *for* piano. It was written on a piano, but Ravel's intention was to produce an orchestrated dance piece. |
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