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Just Beautiful!
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 4:09:24 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/16/18 2:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:21:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 12:13 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:57:39 -0500, John H wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:37:48 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 14:58:39 -0500, John H wrote: Never enjoyed watching a performance more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDiaRZy0Ak === Nice. I understand that there are some people who can listen to that without thinking of Bo Derek. :-) --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Yup, I'se one. I didn't know Bo Derek was in a movie named 'Bolero' until just now. I'm wondering where I was in 1984 when that came out. (I looked it up on You Tube.) Hell, I was right here working at the Army Personnel Center. Too damn busy to go to the movies, I reckon. The "Bolaro" reference was originally from the movie "10". Ravel was never on my favorites list, and he dropped even lower for orchestrating and turning Modest Mussorgsky's lovely Pictures at an Exhibition into a bombastic Herring piece.  === Here's some Ravel that may be subtle enough for your delicate sensibilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYNlYMvFA5U I'm familiar with Ravel's compositions. As far as I know, there is no requirement that I like or prefer the music of all composers of serious music, or even all the compositions of composers I do prefer. One of the more bizarre peculiarities of this newsgroup is the "demand" for group think. Must be all the military experience here, eh? No one demanded that you like that version. In fact, you took a shot at John because he did like it, and you didn't. Your own version of demanding group think. It was normal, and expected, that you be an asshole about it, though. Business as usual for you. |
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#33
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Just Beautiful!
On 1/16/18 4:06 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Söze - show quoted text - Is Ravel’s orchestration a homage, a tribute, or a cover? I like it the way the composer wrote it. Seeing he was a pianist and wrote it for piano, this is the version you’d appreciate https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjHcuuOPLo No, Tim, Bolero was NOT written *for* the piano. Like many composers*, Ravel composed on the piano, but the piece was not written for the piano. It was written for ballet, to be performed by an orchestra. *Mozart used the keyboard instruments of his day to noodle out his notes, tunes, compositions. |
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#34
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Just Beautiful!
3:46 PMKeyser Soze On 1/16/18 4:06 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Söze - show quoted text - Is Ravel’s orchestration a homage, a tribute, or a cover? I like it the way the composer wrote it. Seeing he was a pianist and wrote it for piano, this is the version you’d appreciate https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjHcuuOPLo No, Tim, Bolero was NOT written *for* the piano. Like many composers*, Ravel composed on the piano, but the piece was not written for the piano. It was written for ballet, to be performed by an orchestra. *Mozart used the keyboard instruments of his day to noodle out his notes, tunes, compositions. ..... Sure it was written for ballet. ON A PIANO. You said you liked the “original” version which was written in piano so, there it is... |
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#35
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Just Beautiful!
On 1/16/2018 4:34 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 4:09:24 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 2:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:21:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 12:13 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:57:39 -0500, John H wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:37:48 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 14:58:39 -0500, John H wrote: Never enjoyed watching a performance more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDiaRZy0Ak === Nice. I understand that there are some people who can listen to that without thinking of Bo Derek. :-) --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Yup, I'se one. I didn't know Bo Derek was in a movie named 'Bolero' until just now. I'm wondering where I was in 1984 when that came out. (I looked it up on You Tube.) Hell, I was right here working at the Army Personnel Center. Too damn busy to go to the movies, I reckon. The "Bolaro" reference was originally from the movie "10". Ravel was never on my favorites list, and he dropped even lower for orchestrating and turning Modest Mussorgsky's lovely Pictures at an Exhibition into a bombastic Herring piece. === Here's some Ravel that may be subtle enough for your delicate sensibilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYNlYMvFA5U I'm familiar with Ravel's compositions. As far as I know, there is no requirement that I like or prefer the music of all composers of serious music, or even all the compositions of composers I do prefer. One of the more bizarre peculiarities of this newsgroup is the "demand" for group think. Must be all the military experience here, eh? No one demanded that you like that version. In fact, you took a shot at John because he did like it, and you didn't. Your own version of demanding group think. It was normal, and expected, that you be an asshole about it, though. Business as usual for you. So true. Harry has been like that for decades. He has little respect for what other people like or enjoy unless it happens to shared by him, which is very rare. Most mentally stable people understand and accept that people have different tastes and likes. |
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#36
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Just Beautiful!
On 1/16/18 4:54 PM, Tim wrote:
3:46 PMKeyser Soze On 1/16/18 4:06 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Söze - show quoted text - Is Ravel’s orchestration a homage, a tribute, or a cover? I like it the way the composer wrote it. Seeing he was a pianist and wrote it for piano, this is the version you’d appreciate https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjHcuuOPLo No, Tim, Bolero was NOT written *for* the piano. Like many composers*, Ravel composed on the piano, but the piece was not written for the piano. It was written for ballet, to be performed by an orchestra. *Mozart used the keyboard instruments of his day to noodle out his notes, tunes, compositions. .... Sure it was written for ballet. ON A PIANO. You said you liked the “original” version which was written in piano so, there it is... I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM |
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#37
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Just Beautiful!
On 1/16/18 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/16/2018 4:34 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 4:09:24 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 2:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:21:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 12:13 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:57:39 -0500, John H wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:37:48 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 14:58:39 -0500, John H wrote: Never enjoyed watching a performance more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDiaRZy0Ak === Nice.* I understand that there are some people who can listen to that without thinking of Bo Derek.** :-) --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Yup, I'se one. I didn't know Bo Derek was in a movie named 'Bolero' until just now. I'm wondering where I was in 1984 when that came out. (I looked it up on You Tube.) Hell, I was right here working at the Army Personnel Center. Too damn busy to go to the movies, I reckon. The "Bolaro" reference was originally from the movie "10". Ravel was never on my favorites list, and he dropped even lower for orchestrating and turning Modest Mussorgsky's lovely Pictures at an Exhibition into a bombastic Herring piece.* === Here's some Ravel that may be subtle enough for your delicate sensibilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYNlYMvFA5U I'm familiar with Ravel's compositions. As far as I know, there is no requirement that I like or prefer the music of all composers of serious music, or even all the compositions of composers I do prefer. One of the more bizarre peculiarities of this newsgroup is the "demand" for group think. Must be all the military experience here, eh? No one demanded that you like that version.* In fact, you took a shot at John because he did like it, and you didn't.* Your own version of demanding group think.* It was normal, and expected, that you be an asshole about it, though.* Business as usual for you. So true.* Harry has been like that for decades.* He has little respect for what other people like or enjoy unless it happens to shared by him, which is very rare. Most mentally stable people understand and accept that people have different tastes and likes. I stated I didn't like it. I don't give a **** whether you like it or not. I don't like Herring's taste for overdone, overly bombastic music. |
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#38
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Just Beautiful!
On 1/16/2018 5:07 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/16/18 4:55 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 1/16/2018 4:34 PM, Its Me wrote: On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 4:09:24 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 2:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:21:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 12:13 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:57:39 -0500, John H wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:37:48 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 14:58:39 -0500, John H wrote: Never enjoyed watching a performance more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDiaRZy0Ak === Nice.* I understand that there are some people who can listen to that without thinking of Bo Derek.** :-) --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Yup, I'se one. I didn't know Bo Derek was in a movie named 'Bolero' until just now. I'm wondering where I was in 1984 when that came out. (I looked it up on You Tube.) Hell, I was right here working at the Army Personnel Center. Too damn busy to go to the movies, I reckon. The "Bolaro" reference was originally from the movie "10". Ravel was never on my favorites list, and he dropped even lower for orchestrating and turning Modest Mussorgsky's lovely Pictures at an Exhibition into a bombastic Herring piece.* === Here's some Ravel that may be subtle enough for your delicate sensibilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYNlYMvFA5U I'm familiar with Ravel's compositions. As far as I know, there is no requirement that I like or prefer the music of all composers of serious music, or even all the compositions of composers I do prefer. One of the more bizarre peculiarities of this newsgroup is the "demand" for group think. Must be all the military experience here, eh? No one demanded that you like that version.* In fact, you took a shot at John because he did like it, and you didn't.* Your own version of demanding group think.* It was normal, and expected, that you be an asshole about it, though.* Business as usual for you. So true.* Harry has been like that for decades.* He has little respect for what other people like or enjoy unless it happens to shared by him, which is very rare. Most mentally stable people understand and accept that people have different tastes and likes. I stated I didn't like it. I don't give a **** whether you like it or not. I don't like Herring's taste for overdone, overly bombastic music. Can you respect the fact that some find it enjoyable? Nope. You can't, because *you* don't like it. That's the personality quirk that is so consistent in you over the past 20 years. |
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#39
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Just Beautiful!
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:09:21 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/16/18 2:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 12:21:07 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 1/16/18 12:13 PM, wrote: On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:57:39 -0500, John H wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 17:37:48 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 14:58:39 -0500, John H wrote: Never enjoyed watching a performance more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZDiaRZy0Ak === Nice. I understand that there are some people who can listen to that without thinking of Bo Derek. :-) --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Yup, I'se one. I didn't know Bo Derek was in a movie named 'Bolero' until just now. I'm wondering where I was in 1984 when that came out. (I looked it up on You Tube.) Hell, I was right here working at the Army Personnel Center. Too damn busy to go to the movies, I reckon. The "Bolaro" reference was originally from the movie "10". Ravel was never on my favorites list, and he dropped even lower for orchestrating and turning Modest Mussorgsky's lovely Pictures at an Exhibition into a bombastic Herring piece. === Here's some Ravel that may be subtle enough for your delicate sensibilities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYNlYMvFA5U I'm familiar with Ravel's compositions. As far as I know, there is no requirement that I like or prefer the music of all composers of serious music, or even all the compositions of composers I do prefer. One of the more bizarre peculiarities of this newsgroup is the "demand" for group think. Must be all the military experience here, eh? "Do you like green eggs and ham? "I do not like them, Sam-I-Am. "I do not like green eggs and ham." Are you feeling forced? Gosh. Paranoia coupled with narcissism. That's a bitch. |
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#40
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Just Beautiful!
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 17:05:45 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/16/18 4:54 PM, Tim wrote: 3:46 PMKeyser Soze On 1/16/18 4:06 PM, Tim wrote: Keyser Sze - show quoted text - Is Ravels orchestration a homage, a tribute, or a cover? I like it the way the composer wrote it. Seeing he was a pianist and wrote it for piano, this is the version youd appreciate https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjHcuuOPLo No, Tim, Bolero was NOT written *for* the piano. Like many composers*, Ravel composed on the piano, but the piece was not written for the piano. It was written for ballet, to be performed by an orchestra. *Mozart used the keyboard instruments of his day to noodle out his notes, tunes, compositions. .... Sure it was written for ballet. ON A PIANO. You said you liked the original version which was written in piano so, there it is... I know words aren't an area of expertise for you. You claimed Ravel wrote Bolero for the piano. He did not. He wrote it on a piano. There's a big difference there. I never said I liked the "original" version of Bolero. I don't like any versions of Ravel's Bolero. The work I like and referenced is Moussorgsky's Pictures at an Exhibition, which was written on and for the piano. Ravel later orchestrated the piano work and, in my opinion, turned it into something it was never meant to be. Here is the most famous performance of Pictures, by the incredible Russian pianist Sviatoslav Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNq3VMzqXqM Very nice! Richte does a nice job. In fact, he gets a bit 'bombastic' on that piano! |
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