On 12/16/17 10:30 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 20:01:37 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Love the fact that rec.boats floats on a sea of ignorant right-wingers.

===

You're exalted state of enlightenment runneth over, sort of like an
overfull cesspool.

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I make no claim of "enlightenment" in these matters, though I do know
the difference between "your" and "you're," eh?

On 12/16/17 10:31 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 21:48:05 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 8:33 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:50:53 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 4:47 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 15:23:43 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Not a chance. I've never had any respect or use for the christian right,
christian evangelicals or any religious proselytizers. In fact, I
believe religious proselytism should be illegal everywhere.

So you have stopped supporting the religious apartheid regime in the
Eastern Med now? ... cool


Say what? If you are referring to the jews, as far as I know, they do
not go looking for converts, nor do most orthodox, conservative, or
reform jews evangelize.

The place where we are talking about is a caliphate and very
unapologetic about it. If you are not Jewish, you are a second class
"resident", not even a real citizen.



My comment was that the Jews do not go looking for converts, nor do most
orthodox, conservative, or reform jews evangelize. Are you claiming the
Israelis are converting Muslims to Judaism?

Are you seriously going to say they do not discriminate against
muslims based on religion? Are you going to say that it is not a
religious caliphate.



Let's try this again:

My comment was that the Jews do not go looking for converts, nor do most
orthodox, conservative, or reform jews evangelize. Are you claiming the
Israelis are converting Muslims to Judaism?

The Chief Rabbinate of Israel has authority over aspects of Jewish life
in that country for those who are observant, not over the aspects of
Muslim or Christian life. As an example, on the Jewish sabbath, many of
the Jewish shops will not be open, but the Muslim and Christian shops
will be.

No, I do not believe Israel is a religious caliphate. If you are a Jew
living in Israel, you can pay attention to religious law...or not. If
you don't, you won't be arrested, jailed, or beheaded.

On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 09:18:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 12/16/17 10:21 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 20:46:45 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:02:25 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
- show quoted text -
They're not and they wouldn't be. Moronic posit on your part.
.....

So,you simply can’t handle a hypothetical question ?


I’m not into christian absurdities

You prefer atheist absurdities


What might those be?

I would start with how a stone in front of a court house in Alabama
can insult you so badly. Have you ever seen it. Did they tie you up,
blindfold you and fly you there, then force you to look at it?




I am offended by Moore's pushing religion in a country that was founded
on the right to be free from religious rule and teachings, in a nation
declared to be neutral on matters of belief. Imposition by the
government of religion or religious practices is repugnant. I am
surprised that you, as a professed libertarian, is in favor of
state-supported religion.

Mind you, I have no particular bone to pick with the 10 commandments,
per se, other than my belief that the state, as it were, should not be
in the business of advertising them. That means on public grounds, in
public schools, in public facilities.

You're no more than a f'ing blowhard, Krause.

On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 09:20:00 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 10:30 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 20:01:37 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Love the fact that rec.boats floats on a sea of ignorant right-wingers.

===

You're exalted state of enlightenment runneth over, sort of like an
overfull cesspool.

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I make no claim of "enlightenment" in these matters, though I do know
the difference between "your" and "you're," eh?

===

Brain fart, impressive that you caught it.

On 12/17/2017 9:02 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 5:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/16/2017 9:50 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/16/17 8:37 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 18:07:29 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:47:04 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 4:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 15:23:43 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 2:21 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
- show quoted text


I don't know what is wrong with you conservative evangelicals.
Your
brethren in Alabama supported a pedophile running for the U.S.
Senate, a
man who was excluded from a shopping mall because as a grown
man he was
annoying and trying to pick up for sex little girls. Trump
supported
him, too.

—-
If the “Christian evangelicals� had supported Hillary, they’d
have your aproval. You’d probably want a few in her cabinate.


Not a chance. I've never had any respect or use for the
christian right,
christian evangelicals or any religious proselytizers. In fact, I
believe religious proselytism should be illegal everywhere.


===

You'd certainly get a lot of support for that position in Islamic
countries.Â* InÂ* fact I think it's already illegal in most.Â* How
do you
feel about Sharia law?




D'uh. I am agnostic. I have no use for religion.

===

That would be enough to get you stoned to death in many parts of
Pakistan.Â* I'm sure we could round up support for buying you a
vacation package.


Interestingly, that's what many christian evangelists "leaders" say in
this country about people here who do not share their superstitions.
Fascinating, isn't it, that religious conservatives have so much in
common.

I can't think of a democrat president in my life time who did not
embrace those superstitions on the campaign trail. Carter was a
baptist deacon and milked that cow on all 4 tits.



Carter is disgusted with the evangelical christian movement and
walked away from it nearly 20 years ago because, among other reasons,
of the way it mistreated women


It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity in
the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical ...
with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat.Â* Of the
others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to convert
anyone.Â* Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or
experienced it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087



You are misinterpreting the chart you provided in your URL. Evangelicals
are much more than a denomination and in fact pollute many denominations.

According to the Pew Research Center's Religious Landscape Study,
evangelical protestants comprise the largest religious group in the
united states:

http://pewrsr.ch/1cpBNNW


That's *your* interpretation of what an "evangelical" is. I've been
exposed to several denominations, from Catholicism and Episcopalian to
Lutheranism and several Baptist sub-denominations. Even explored
Judaism a bit. Never heard a call to recruit in any of them.

On 12/17/2017 9:11 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/16/17 10:17 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 20:46:44 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:50:53 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 4:47 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 15:23:43 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Not a chance. I've never had any respect or use for the christian
right,
christian evangelicals or any religious proselytizers. In fact, I
believe religious proselytism should be illegal everywhere.

So you have stopped supporting the religious apartheid regime in the
Eastern Med now? ... cool


Say what? If you are referring to the jews, as far as I know, they do
not go looking for converts, nor do most orthodox, conservative, or
reform jews evangelize.

The place where we are talking about is a caliphate and very
unapologetic about it. If you are not Jewish, you are a second class
"resident", not even a real citizen.


You really need to grow out of the “But what about...� bull****.

If you had any consistency in your beliefs, it would not be necessary.
All of your strongly held beliefs seem to come with an "except".



Yeah, well, many things, issues, whatevers, in life come with
exceptions. Perhaps if you had followed a *disciplined* course of study
in humanities somewhere, you might know that. Your helter-skelter
education has given you little more than blinders and an intellectually
terminal case of "But what abouts"... You seem to seek perfection in
humanity and...it ain't there and never will be.

Oh, by the way, Muslims citizens in Israel have all the rights of
citizenship, including the right to vote, the right to worship, the
right to obtain higher education, the right to practice professions and
own businesses.


What the hell is a "disciplined" course of study? Is that when you are
taught *what* to believe and *what* to think?

On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 09:18:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:




I am offended by Moore's pushing religion in a country that was founded
on the right to be free from religious rule and teachings, in a nation
declared to be neutral on matters of belief. Imposition by the
government of religion or religious practices is repugnant. I am
surprised that you, as a professed libertarian, is in favor of
state-supported religion.

Mind you, I have no particular bone to pick with the 10 commandments,
per se, other than my belief that the state, as it were, should not be
in the business of advertising them. That means on public grounds, in
public schools, in public facilities.

Have you heard? There's a new, 11th commandment.

"Thou shall not troll".

On Sunday, December 17, 2017 at 10:14:26 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2017 9:11 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/16/17 10:17 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 20:46:44 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:50:53 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 4:47 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 15:23:43 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Not a chance. I've never had any respect or use for the christian
right,
christian evangelicals or any religious proselytizers. In fact, I
believe religious proselytism should be illegal everywhere.

So you have stopped supporting the religious apartheid regime in the
Eastern Med now? ... cool


Say what? If you are referring to the jews, as far as I know, they do
not go looking for converts, nor do most orthodox, conservative, or
reform jews evangelize.

The place where we are talking about is a caliphate and very
unapologetic about it. If you are not Jewish, you are a second class
"resident", not even a real citizen.


You really need to grow out of the “But what about...� bull****.

If you had any consistency in your beliefs, it would not be necessary.
All of your strongly held beliefs seem to come with an "except".



Yeah, well, many things, issues, whatevers, in life come with
exceptions. Perhaps if you had followed a *disciplined* course of study
in humanities somewhere, you might know that. Your helter-skelter
education has given you little more than blinders and an intellectually
terminal case of "But what abouts"... You seem to seek perfection in
humanity and...it ain't there and never will be.

Oh, by the way, Muslims citizens in Israel have all the rights of
citizenship, including the right to vote, the right to worship, the
right to obtain higher education, the right to practice professions and
own businesses.


What the hell is a "disciplined" course of study? Is that when you are
taught *what* to believe and *what* to think?

LOL!

On 12/17/17 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2017 9:02 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 5:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/16/2017 9:50 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/16/17 8:37 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 18:07:29 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:47:04 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 4:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 15:23:43 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 2:21 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
- show quoted text


I don't know what is wrong with you conservative
evangelicals. Your
brethren in Alabama supported a pedophile running for the
U.S. Senate, a
man who was excluded from a shopping mall because as a grown
man he was
annoying and trying to pick up for sex little girls. Trump
supported
him, too.

—-
If the “Christian evangelicals� had supported Hillary, they’d
have your aproval. You’d probably want a few in her cabinate.


Not a chance. I've never had any respect or use for the
christian right,
christian evangelicals or any religious proselytizers. In fact, I
believe religious proselytism should be illegal everywhere.


===

You'd certainly get a lot of support for that position in Islamic
countries.Â* InÂ* fact I think it's already illegal in most.Â* How
do you
feel about Sharia law?




D'uh. I am agnostic. I have no use for religion.

===

That would be enough to get you stoned to death in many parts of
Pakistan.Â* I'm sure we could round up support for buying you a
vacation package.


Interestingly, that's what many christian evangelists "leaders"
say in
this country about people here who do not share their superstitions.
Fascinating, isn't it, that religious conservatives have so much
in common.

I can't think of a democrat president in my life time who did not
embrace those superstitions on the campaign trail. Carter was a
baptist deacon and milked that cow on all 4 tits.



Carter is disgusted with the evangelical christian movement and
walked away from it nearly 20 years ago because, among other
reasons, of the way it mistreated women


It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity
in the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical
... with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat.Â* Of
the others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to
convert anyone.Â* Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or
experienced it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087



You are misinterpreting the chart you provided in your URL.
Evangelicals are much more than a denomination and in fact pollute
many denominations.

According to the Pew Research Center's Religious Landscape Study,
evangelical protestants comprise the largest religious group in the
united states:

http://pewrsr.ch/1cpBNNW


That's *your* interpretation of what an "evangelical" is.Â* I've been
exposed to several denominations, from Catholicism and Episcopalian to
Lutheranism and several Baptist sub-denominations.Â* Even explored
Judaism a bit.Â* Never heard a call to recruit in any of them.


You are confusing evangelical and proselytizer. They are not the same,
though there can be overlap. A well-disciplined course of study in
comparative religions might have enlightened you.

On 12/17/2017 11:12 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 10:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/17/2017 9:02 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/17/17 5:15 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/16/2017 9:50 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/16/17 8:37 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 18:07:29 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 5:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:47:04 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 4:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 15:23:43 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 12/16/17 2:21 PM, Tim wrote:
Keyser Soze
- show quoted text


I don't know what is wrong with you conservative
evangelicals. Your
brethren in Alabama supported a pedophile running for the
U.S. Senate, a
man who was excluded from a shopping mall because as a grown
man he was
annoying and trying to pick up for sex little girls. Trump
supported
him, too.

—-
If the “Christian evangelicals� had supported Hillary,
they’d have your aproval. You’d probably want a few in her
cabinate.


Not a chance. I've never had any respect or use for the
christian right,
christian evangelicals or any religious proselytizers. In
fact, I
believe religious proselytism should be illegal everywhere.


===

You'd certainly get a lot of support for that position in Islamic
countries.Â* InÂ* fact I think it's already illegal in most.
How do you
feel about Sharia law?




D'uh. I am agnostic. I have no use for religion.

===

That would be enough to get you stoned to death in many parts of
Pakistan.Â* I'm sure we could round up support for buying you a
vacation package.


Interestingly, that's what many christian evangelists "leaders"
say in
this country about people here who do not share their superstitions.
Fascinating, isn't it, that religious conservatives have so much
in common.

I can't think of a democrat president in my life time who did not
embrace those superstitions on the campaign trail. Carter was a
baptist deacon and milked that cow on all 4 tits.



Carter is disgusted with the evangelical christian movement and
walked away from it nearly 20 years ago because, among other
reasons, of the way it mistreated women


It's interesting that of the 35 major denominations of Christianity
in the United States you focus on one of the smallest ...evangelical
... with your complaints about shoving religion down your throat.
Of the others, I don't know of any that purposely go out and try to
convert anyone.Â* Maybe there are a few but I've never heard of it or
experienced it.

https://undergod.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=000087



You are misinterpreting the chart you provided in your URL.
Evangelicals are much more than a denomination and in fact pollute
many denominations.

According to the Pew Research Center's Religious Landscape Study,
evangelical protestants comprise the largest religious group in the
united states:

http://pewrsr.ch/1cpBNNW


That's *your* interpretation of what an "evangelical" is.Â* I've been
exposed to several denominations, from Catholicism and Episcopalian to
Lutheranism and several Baptist sub-denominations.Â* Even explored
Judaism a bit.Â* Never heard a call to recruit in any of them.


You are confusing evangelical and proselytizer. They are not the same,
though there can be overlap. A well-disciplined course of study in
comparative religions might have enlightened you.


Why would I possibly be interested in a "well-disciplined" course of
study in comparative religions?

I was ordained on the Internet. :-)