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....of course, you have to understand the term "black" humor...which
would be a stretch for most posters here. An Algerian-born Irish citizen, Ali Charaf Damache, will not be extradited to the United States to stand trial for allegedly conspiring to use online chat rooms to recruit American women into a potential terrorist cell. The reason the high court in Ireland has given is not whether or not Mr. Damache is guilty or innocent, it's because the United States judicial system and more specifically their "supermax" solitary-confinement prison system amounts to cruel and inhumane punishment: In her judgement, Ms Justice Donnelly said there was no meaningful judicial review available in the US of the conditions of detention and the necessity for same. Mr Damache’s main complaint was in relation to the allegedly inhuman conditions he would be detained in if he was extradited. The judge decided that “the institutionalisation of solitary confinement with its routine isolation from meaningful contact and communication with staff and other inmates, for a prolonged pre-determined period of at least 18 months and continuing almost certainly for many years, amounts to a breach of the constitutional requirement to protect persons from inhuman and degrading treatment and to respect the dignity of the human being.” What the Irish judge is referring to is the United States' supermax prison in Colorado: Opened in 1994, the Colorado supermax prison is the toughest and most controversial correctional facility in the U.S. federal system. It is dubbed the "Alcatraz of the Rockies," and has housed some of the nation's most notorious prisoners, including Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber; and Ramzi Yousef, the 1993 World Trade Center bomber. No one has ever escaped. Food is delivered through a slit in the cell door. Family visits are banned, conversations with others are restricted, and rarely, if ever, do inmates glimpse a tree or a bird through a window. They spend days and nights alone. http://tinyurl.com/q2f8d2f Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a backwards nation in so many ways. |
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On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Sze
wrote: Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a backwards nation in so many ways. === Yes, it's just awful. Why don't you leave before you're indicted for tax evasion by this terrible repressive country? If you are, I'm looking forward to hearing your first hand reports about the penal system. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a backwards nation in so many ways. === Yes, it's just awful. Why don't you leave before you're indicted for tax evasion by this terrible repressive country? If you are, I'm looking forward to hearing your first hand reports about the penal system. Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking to other inmates while in cell. |
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On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a backwards nation in so many ways. === Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking to other inmates while in cell. Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill? |
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On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a backwards nation in so many ways. === Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking to other inmates while in cell. Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill? You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison life) If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot still do. |
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On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 3:58:11 PM UTC-4, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Sze wrote: Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a backwards nation in so many ways. === Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking to other inmates while in cell. Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill? You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison life) If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot still do. Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in the world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as many as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with our "fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal justice system? our "criminal criminal justice system"? You mean the one run and administered by a bunch of liberal arts educated folks? That can't be right. |
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On 8/10/2015 2:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a backwards nation in so many ways. === Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking to other inmates while in cell. Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill? You deserve better. You know where to go, don't you? -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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