On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.

Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..


I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers. The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.

On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:06:35 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.

Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..


I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers. The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.

There's a bill to deregulate suppressors, allowing them to be sold just like any firearm. With the fresh new face of the DC crowd, I'm hoping it will get passed. Then prices will come down (after the initial rush) and they will become more reasonable.

On 3/4/17 8:17 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:06:35 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.

Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..


I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers. The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.

There's a bill to deregulate suppressors, allowing them to be sold just like any firearm. With the fresh new face of the DC crowd, I'm hoping it will get passed. Then prices will come down (after the initial rush) and they will become more reasonable.


Yeah, I've seen a few news items on that. It would be a good idea. The
suppressor industry should work to drive the word "silencer" out of
common usage, because in typical civilian use a suppressor does not do
anything close to "silence" a firearm.

7:06 AMKeyser Soze
On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
- show quoted text -
I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers. The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.
.....

Doesn't have to be a gun show. You've said in the past of people dealing guns out of the trunk of their car is commonplace like they're as popular as a Starbucks. According to you one doesn't have to look very far to find them.

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:06:32 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:


I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers.

Yeah you might have to ask 2 or 3 people in PG county before you can
find someone to sell you an off the books gun.
It is really working great in Baltimore too. 54 murders so far, most
unsolved.

The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.

Why would suppressor be NFA devices in the first place? If anything
they make guns safer. (less chance of hearing loss)

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:20:12 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

Yeah, I've seen a few news items on that. It would be a good idea. The
suppressor industry should work to drive the word "silencer" out of
common usage, because in typical civilian use a suppressor does not do
anything close to "silence" a firearm.

We can blame Hiram Maxim for that. He coined the name for his new
device to "silence" firearms, over 100 years ago

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:36:06 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:34:24 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/3/17 7:32 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 19:12:03 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/2/17 6:46 PM, Bill wrote:
Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:53:00 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:51 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 16:36:47 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are
the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket


But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web
pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more
than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2

http://tinyurl.com/jqf2o6r

They are either referring to the gun or they, like you, are being
imprecise with the language.

The cartridge is rightfully called '.45 Auto'. Find one .45
cartridge
with '.45 ACP' on the base.

Or, you could just gracefully bow out.

Also, from your link:


Specifications
SKU: 11526
Model: M&P®45 M2.0? Thumb Safety
Caliber: .45 AUTO
Capacity: 10+1
Barrel Length: 4.6" / 11.7 cm
Overall Length: 7.9"
Front Sight: Steel - White Dot
Rear Sight: Steel - White Two Dot
Action: Striker Fire
Grip: Polymer
Weight: 27.0 oz / 765.4g
Barrel Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Slide Material: Stainless Steel - Armornite® Finish
Frame Material: Polymer
Purpose: Home Protection, Personal Protection

Note 'Caliber: .45 AUTO'. Maybe you missed that. I didn't check
the rest of your links.

So far, you're batting about a zero.

Tell us about 'Digital Desire' instead.


I am sure S&W knows a lot more about firearms nomenclature than
you and
your braindead buds here ever will.

Show me a cartridge with '.45 ACP' on the base.

I'm sure they are experts in firearm nomenclature. If they're talking
about the firearm, then '.45
ACP' could well be correct. Do they make .45 Auto ammunition? If
so, I'll
bet the cartridge base
says '.45 Auto'.

Now hush, Mr. Precise. You blew it.


Maybe 50 years plus ago, it said ACP, but the rest of the
manufacturers did
not want to mention Colt. Wasn't a30.06 originally a Winchester
30.06?


The fact is, the round has several names in common use by authoritative
vendors.

And those using '.45 ACP' are wrong. (You missed that part.) Besides
the two names under discussion,
what other names are in 'common use by authoritative vendors'?



Yawn.

IOW you can't name any. Nice job, writer. You are well known as a
liar. Why continue on that path?

'The proof is in the pudding.'

I keep waiting for him to show us the cartridge with .45 ACP stamped on the base, and to show us the
'other names in 'common use by authoritative vendors'

I reckon we shouldn't hold our breath.


I thought 45 ACP was the name of a particular pistol model.
Wouldn't it be tough to try to jam a bunch of em into a
magazine?

Smith and Wesson has '.45 ACP' stamped on the side of one of their revolvers.

https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-625-jm

Scroll down about half a page and check out the barrel. Maybe Harry has one of these, and that's why
he's so confused.

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 07:29:34 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.

You talked about 'authoritative vendors' a while back calling the .45 Auto cartridge by 'several
names'. Well, where are they? See, Harry, you spout bull**** and don't back it up. Yet you complain
about Trump.

Whatever would make you think I'd consider joining you and whomever for anything?

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:06:32 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.

Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..


I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

Obviously you've never been there. Show us something to back up your claim, Herr Scheiße Meister.

On Sat, 4 Mar 2017 08:20:12 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/4/17 8:17 AM, Its Me wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 8:06:35 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:58 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, March 4, 2017 at 6:29:37 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/4/17 7:08 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2017 21:25:37 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 8:15 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 3/2/17 4:19 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 11:50:21 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

This is for the precision challenged I think these guys are the only
ones that double label for Aito *AND* ACP
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/17...l-metal-jacket



But, it's what's written on the cartridge that counts!

http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adi.../207427_ts.jpg




You've heard of Smith & Wesson, right, ****-for-brains?

That company has references to .45 ACP on many of its web pages. You
think some semi-retarded right-wing assholes here know more than S&W
about firearms?

Smith & Wesson:

http://tinyurl.com/h7kaykc
I couldn't find it and my browser yielded no results.

http://tinyurl.com/hjxogp2
Revolvers. No .45 ACP on that page either.


Click on caliber at the top and you'll see .45 ACP and a bunch of
revolvers that shoot it. Here's one, identified as a .45 ACP revolver:

http://tinyurl.com/hkscslp



A *revolver* identified as an Automatic Colt *Pistol*? Interesting and
also bad marketing.

It's strange. For the semi-auto, the caliber is '.45 Auto'. But for their revolvers, the caliber is
'.45 ACP'.

I think they're wrong in both cases. (Oh ****, I can feel Harry's pulse quicken.) The 'caliber' of
both the semi-autos and the revolvers is '.45 caliber'. The cartridge they fire is the '.45 Auto'.

I'm thinking someone at S&W didn't like the idea of stamping '.45 Auto' on the side of a revolver,
so they went with '.45 ACP' for people, like Harry, who didn't know any better.


That you and Alex think you are "thinking" is a great bit of humor to
start off the day. Your flaccid argument isn't with me...it's with all
the vendors who sell products they describe as .45 ACP firearms and
ammo. Perhaps you should write to them and tell them the error of their
ways. I'm sure Smith and Wesson would love to hear from a pair of mooks
like you two.

It's always nice to put up a post that gets so many responses from you
mouthbreathers, although in this case it wasn't my intention.

I'm heading out to Virginia a little later this morning, fully armed and
ready to take on a slew of empty soda pop and beer cans, a dozen full
two liter soda pop bottles, and various other targets. Too bad you're
such a flaming asshole, Herring, because if you weren't, I'd ask you to
join us...a group of guys whose political beliefs are all over the
spectrum. One of the group legally owns a few full auto firearms, and
I'm sure he'll have one of them with him.

Good luck and have fun Harry, and while your in Virginia don't forget to take advantage of those "out-of-trunk" gun dealers. That's where the real bargains are y'know..


I'm not aware of any gun shows this weekend in Northern Virginia that
are adjacent to the interstates. I do think there is one sometime this
month out near Dulles Airport...and that's one that's famous locally for
off the books firearms sales.

I'm supportive of the process Maryland requires for sales/transfers of
pistols and revolvers. The federal waiting period for paperwork approval
of a suppressor, however, is annoying. It was two to three months when I
got mine, and nowadays, I hear, it is closer to six months.

There's a bill to deregulate suppressors, allowing them to be sold just like any firearm. With the fresh new face of the DC crowd, I'm hoping it will get passed. Then prices will come down (after the initial rush) and they will become more reasonable.


Yeah, I've seen a few news items on that. It would be a good idea. The
suppressor industry should work to drive the word "silencer" out of
common usage, because in typical civilian use a suppressor does not do
anything close to "silence" a firearm.

Preciseness is relative, Harry, as you so able demonstrate time after time.