On 1/24/17 1:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/24/2017 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the
spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and
holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is
dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens
our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.


Yeah, a couple of my handguns have lasers on them. Initially I tried
the lasers but never use them now. Batteries are probably dead.


I have a pretty expensive laser device for lining up scopes and
barrels*, but I don't know why I'd want a laser pointer permanently or
semi-permanently mounted on a handgun. If you don't practice enough and
can't hit a human-sized target with a handgun in or near the center of
body mass between a couple of feet away and say 50 feet, you probably
shouldn't be depending on a handgun.

* I have the device because I often swap around my various scopes and
red dots on my various rifles. I have a red dot on my .22LR target
pistol, and I just leave it on there. No scope or red dot on my revolver.

On 1/24/2017 1:55 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/24/17 1:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/24/2017 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the
spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and
holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is
dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens
our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.


Yeah, a couple of my handguns have lasers on them. Initially I tried
the lasers but never use them now. Batteries are probably dead.


I have a pretty expensive laser device for lining up scopes and
barrels*, but I don't know why I'd want a laser pointer permanently or
semi-permanently mounted on a handgun. If you don't practice enough and
can't hit a human-sized target with a handgun in or near the center of
body mass between a couple of feet away and say 50 feet, you probably
shouldn't be depending on a handgun.

* I have the device because I often swap around my various scopes and
red dots on my various rifles. I have a red dot on my .22LR target
pistol, and I just leave it on there. No scope or red dot on my revolver.


I've lost a lot of interest in shooting. The original reason I got a
concealed carry permit was at the advice of a lawyer friend when I first
opened the guitar shop and carried a lot of cash on me everyday.
I got the permit, joined a gun club and started practicing two or three
days a week but after a while it got really boring shooting holes in
paper targets. I rarely carry anymore and keep the handguns and rifles
in a safe or under lock ... except one. Depending on where we are going
I sometimes take it with me but most of the time it's in the house.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:09:14 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/24/2017 1:55 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/24/17 1:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/24/2017 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the
spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and
holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is
dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens
our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.


Yeah, a couple of my handguns have lasers on them. Initially I tried
the lasers but never use them now. Batteries are probably dead.


I have a pretty expensive laser device for lining up scopes and
barrels*, but I don't know why I'd want a laser pointer permanently or
semi-permanently mounted on a handgun. If you don't practice enough and
can't hit a human-sized target with a handgun in or near the center of
body mass between a couple of feet away and say 50 feet, you probably
shouldn't be depending on a handgun.

* I have the device because I often swap around my various scopes and
red dots on my various rifles. I have a red dot on my .22LR target
pistol, and I just leave it on there. No scope or red dot on my revolver.


I've lost a lot of interest in shooting. The original reason I got a
concealed carry permit was at the advice of a lawyer friend when I first
opened the guitar shop and carried a lot of cash on me everyday.
I got the permit, joined a gun club and started practicing two or three
days a week but after a while it got really boring shooting holes in
paper targets. I rarely carry anymore and keep the handguns and rifles
in a safe or under lock ... except one. Depending on where we are going
I sometimes take it with me but most of the time it's in the house.


Unless I have a specific objective, like sighting in the Mosin Nagant, I agree with you about
shooting by yourself.

However, going with someone else and sharing a lane can be a lot of fun. Last week I took a Navy
Bluegrass player and his wife. We had a blast.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:09:14 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I've lost a lot of interest in shooting. The original reason I got a
concealed carry permit was at the advice of a lawyer friend when I first
opened the guitar shop and carried a lot of cash on me everyday.
I got the permit, joined a gun club and started practicing two or three
days a week but after a while it got really boring shooting holes in
paper targets. I rarely carry anymore and keep the handguns and rifles
in a safe or under lock ... except one. Depending on where we are going
I sometimes take it with me but most of the time it's in the house.


My problem is the nearest range is 45 minutes away and I am not
thrilled with driving these days. When I had a range in the basement I
was shooting handguns all the time and we were also in a skeet league.
Of the two, I think I miss skeet the most but we really don't have a
skeet place anywhere around here.

On 1/24/17 3:30 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:09:14 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


I've lost a lot of interest in shooting. The original reason I got a
concealed carry permit was at the advice of a lawyer friend when I first
opened the guitar shop and carried a lot of cash on me everyday.
I got the permit, joined a gun club and started practicing two or three
days a week but after a while it got really boring shooting holes in
paper targets. I rarely carry anymore and keep the handguns and rifles
in a safe or under lock ... except one. Depending on where we are going
I sometimes take it with me but most of the time it's in the house.


My problem is the nearest range is 45 minutes away and I am not
thrilled with driving these days. When I had a range in the basement I
was shooting handguns all the time and we were also in a skeet league.
Of the two, I think I miss skeet the most but we really don't have a
skeet place anywhere around here.


Save the Skeets!

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:44:57 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

My problem is the nearest range is 45 minutes away and I am not
thrilled with driving these days. When I had a range in the basement I
was shooting handguns all the time and we were also in a skeet league.
Of the two, I think I miss skeet the most but we really don't have a
skeet place anywhere around here.


Save the Skeets!

Actually you should appreciate my switch from shooting birds to
shooting clay birds. I am pretty good at it and I used to shoot lots
of birds. I realized I liked the shooting part a lot better than the
dead bird part. (cleaning, cooking etc for a mc nugget size bite of
meat). The skeets are always there, you don't have to go find the ones
you hit and it is always open season on them.

On 1/24/17 5:38 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:44:57 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

My problem is the nearest range is 45 minutes away and I am not
thrilled with driving these days. When I had a range in the basement I
was shooting handguns all the time and we were also in a skeet league.
Of the two, I think I miss skeet the most but we really don't have a
skeet place anywhere around here.


Save the Skeets!

Actually you should appreciate my switch from shooting birds to
shooting clay birds. I am pretty good at it and I used to shoot lots
of birds. I realized I liked the shooting part a lot better than the
dead bird part. (cleaning, cooking etc for a mc nugget size bite of
meat). The skeets are always there, you don't have to go find the ones
you hit and it is always open season on them.


Hey, it takes a *real* man to shoot those dangerous skeets!

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 18:43:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Actually you should appreciate my switch from shooting birds to
shooting clay birds. I am pretty good at it and I used to shoot lots
of birds. I realized I liked the shooting part a lot better than the
dead bird part. (cleaning, cooking etc for a mc nugget size bite of
meat). The skeets are always there, you don't have to go find the ones
you hit and it is always open season on them.


Hey, it takes a *real* man to shoot those dangerous skeets!

They are a tad harder to hit than a pop bottle or a sheet of paper.
Next time I am in town, we can go find a skeet range if you like. I
will be easy on you, say buck a bird? (bearing in mind I have not shot
skeet for almost 40 years and I will be shooting a club gun).

justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/24/17 5:38 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:44:57 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

My problem is the nearest range is 45 minutes away and I am not
thrilled with driving these days. When I had a range in the basement I
was shooting handguns all the time and we were also in a skeet league.
Of the two, I think I miss skeet the most but we really don't have a
skeet place anywhere around here.


Save the Skeets!

Actually you should appreciate my switch from shooting birds to
shooting clay birds. I am pretty good at it and I used to shoot lots
of birds. I realized I liked the shooting part a lot better than the
dead bird part. (cleaning, cooking etc for a mc nugget size bite of
meat). The skeets are always there, you don't have to go find the ones
you hit and it is always open season on them.


Hey, it takes a *real* man to shoot those dangerous skeets!



From the Asshat hero that stalks those elusive paper targets and
other inanimate prey.

And stumpy.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:55:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/24/17 1:45 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/24/2017 12:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the
spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and
holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is
dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens
our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.


Yeah, a couple of my handguns have lasers on them. Initially I tried
the lasers but never use them now. Batteries are probably dead.


I have a pretty expensive laser device for lining up scopes and
barrels*, but I don't know why I'd want a laser pointer permanently or
semi-permanently mounted on a handgun. If you don't practice enough and
can't hit a human-sized target with a handgun in or near the center of
body mass between a couple of feet away and say 50 feet, you probably
shouldn't be depending on a handgun.

I tend to agree. The only case I have seen that makes sense is if you
were firing from cover and could not get a decent sight picture but as
you say, that is such a remote thing it is not worth buying batteries
for.
The training mode on the laserlyte does look interesting tho.
I have a CO2 version of my P90 that seems to be a decent practice gun
and I have a safe place out back to use it.
I am still working my way through a big box of cylinders I bought a
while ago for around 30 cents each. I am not sure how many shots you
get but I am usually tired of shooting before it gives out.