On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:17:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

What'd be impressive is when you hit targets while holding the gun sideways i.e. "Gangstah".

The funny thing is I am seeing some defense coaches talking about that
sideways hold now, usually using a laser. It is generally when
shooting from cover like around a corner so you can establish a sight
picture or guide on the laser without exposing any more of your body
and head than necessary. It is also supposed to be more stable on an
"out to the side" hold.

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 19:01:44 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:17:42 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

What'd be impressive is when you hit targets while holding the gun sideways i.e. "Gangstah".

The funny thing is I am seeing some defense coaches talking about that
sideways hold now, usually using a laser. It is generally when
shooting from cover like around a corner so you can establish a sight
picture or guide on the laser without exposing any more of your body
and head than necessary. It is also supposed to be more stable on an
"out to the side" hold.

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens our day again.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:43:54 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.

===

I bought one for my CZ 9 that I use for target shooting. It had
problems with holding zero, poor daylight visibility and short,
expensive battery life. It looks cool and makes a good barrel weight
however so I've left it mounted.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:06:43 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:43:54 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.

===

I bought one for my CZ 9 that I use for target shooting. It had
problems with holding zero, poor daylight visibility and short,
expensive battery life. It looks cool and makes a good barrel weight
however so I've left it mounted.

The one I have mounts on the trigger guard but it won't go in the
holster I have.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:26:04 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:06:43 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:43:54 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.

===

I bought one for my CZ 9 that I use for target shooting. It had
problems with holding zero, poor daylight visibility and short,
expensive battery life. It looks cool and makes a good barrel weight
however so I've left it mounted.

The one I have mounts on the trigger guard but it won't go in the
holster I have.

===

I have one of these:

http://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-adjustable-law-enforcement-tactical-leg-holster-for-pistol-flashlight-laser-a.html

It's very versatile and will adjust to just about any gun, accessory,
and carrying position you could want - also a good value.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:11:41 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:26:04 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:06:43 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:43:54 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.

===

I bought one for my CZ 9 that I use for target shooting. It had
problems with holding zero, poor daylight visibility and short,
expensive battery life. It looks cool and makes a good barrel weight
however so I've left it mounted.

The one I have mounts on the trigger guard but it won't go in the
holster I have.

===
I have one of these:

http://www.opticsplanet.com/leapers-adjustable-law-enforcement-tactical-leg-holster-for-pistol-flashlight-laser-a.html

It's very versatile and will adjust to just about any gun, accessory,
and carrying position you could want - also a good value.

I am not sure where I would wear something like that. The only
holsters I have are more along the lines of concealed carry.
I have a vintage GI holster for a 1911 with the matching magazine
pouch and web belt and I have a couple of open carry holsters for my
..22s but I never use them.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:43:54 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.

Oh I agree that they're a good training aid. Dry firing at home with a laser is very helpful.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:36:41 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:43:54 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.

Oh I agree that they're a good training aid. Dry firing at home with a laser is very helpful.

If I buy another laser I am looking at the new laserlyte that has a
training mode. In training mode it fires a short pop of laser light
when it hears the hammer/striker fall. When used with their training
targets it looks interesting. It is also the regular gun laser in the
normal mode.

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:17:44 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:36:41 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:43:54 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:34:42 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

I've seen people at the range with lasers. Actually, I've seen the spot of light dancing around the
target. It's not like on the TV where the little spot appears and holds nice and steady. I think it
must be embarassing for the owner to know his spot of light is dancing all over the target, 'cause
the laser gets used for only a few seconds and then never brightens our day again.

It is a good training tool and you don't even need to load the gun or
go to the range. ;-)
I am not sure how good they are in a serious social situation tho. I
have a laser for my KP90 but I took it off and put it away. It was
just a distraction.

Oh I agree that they're a good training aid. Dry firing at home with a laser is very helpful.

If I buy another laser I am looking at the new laserlyte that has a
training mode. In training mode it fires a short pop of laser light
when it hears the hammer/striker fall. When used with their training
targets it looks interesting. It is also the regular gun laser in the
normal mode.

I've thought this would be rather run. Might put it on the Christmas list for next year. Although I
do have a birthday coming up. Might go that route.

https://www.amazon.com/LaserLyte-Qui...EVZ8T9HSA32RA6

Then I'll also need the trainer cartridge:

https://www.amazon.com/Laserlyte-Las...0PFC42896W4EBK

This could get expensive. Let's see - .38, 9mm, .45, .22, damn. Wonder if they make one in 7.62x54R