wrote:
People die in commercial aircraft also. I used to like to fly commercial.
But over the years, the seating got tighter, and the hassles got bigger. I
still fly a few times a year. I was going to get a private pilots license
years ago, but not enough time with work, school and racing cars.
Just spend a few extra bucks and fly up front.

By the time you factor in all the BS fees it isn't even that much more
on a lot of routes.
When we went to Montana, the difference was about $350 and that did
not take into account 3 "extra" bags, food, drinks and convenience.
It wasn't even enough to burn airline points on.

As infrequently as I fly, I haven't flown coach in years unless it was
on Southwest where it's not an option. Even Spirit has an upgrade to a
2X2 seat with a lot of legroom for $50 or so. Life is too short to save
a few bucks to be cramped for 3-5 hours. You are right about the price
difference. If you plan ahead it's cheap.

Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:46:04 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/22/15 12:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger boasts.
- show quoted text -
" Again, more great information. The flexibility could work for me and
the price is significantly lower than what I expected. I'm going to
look into it further. "


Great, now the group will have to suffer your endless boasts about how
many airplanes you'll buy.
Jealousy rears it's head.


Perhaps it'll just be one. Two friends died decades ago in separate
crashes while flying their small private planes, and one died in the
crash of a private jet.

Jealousy about what, Bilious? Some of us don't even like to fly in much
safer commercial jets.
People die in commercial aircraft also. I used to like to fly commercial.
But over the years, the seating got tighter, and the hassles got bigger. I
still fly a few times a year. I was going to get a private pilots license
years ago, but not enough time with work, school and racing cars.
Just spend a few extra bucks and fly up front.

By the time you factor in all the BS fees it isn't even that much more
on a lot of routes.
When we went to Montana, the difference was about $350 and that did
not take into account 3 "extra" bags, food, drinks and convenience.
It wasn't even enough to burn airline points on.
Last two trips I went on, up front was outrageous. To Africa ways an extra
$5700 each for business, not even first. And NZ was $10K for both of us.

That's where you cash in the FF miles! They accumulate quickly if you
use their card for everyday purchases and don't waste them on short,
cheap, flights.

True North wrote:
Keysor says..

"Really? You brought up "jealousy." Why should anyone who doesn't give a
rat's ass about private aviation be jealous over whether one of the
dumb**** righties here takes flying lessons or buys planes?"


I agree wholeheartedly with this post. If someone gave me an airplane it would be up for sale in a New York minute. Poor Swill, he seems to base a person's worth solely on their possessions.

It really seems like you are, dummy.

Nice post, BTW, your custom quoting misspelled your hero's name.

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 16:18:39 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 15:07:58 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:


Just spend a few extra bucks and fly up front.

By the time you factor in all the BS fees it isn't even that much more
on a lot of routes.
When we went to Montana, the difference was about $350 and that did
not take into account 3 "extra" bags, food, drinks and convenience.
It wasn't even enough to burn airline points on.

Last two trips I went on, up front was outrageous. To Africa ways an extra
$5700 each for business, not even first. And NZ was $10K for both of us.

We did 1st class to LAX and premium economy to NZ. The bill was $8k,
not horrible and the "space seat" on Air New Zealand was not that much
different than the 1st class seat.
I think the food was the same and the drinks were still free.
I can't imagine doing that trip back in the cargo section.

Given the kind of money you guys are talking about, I wonder what a cruise would
cost. At least it would be enjoyable.
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Cheaper per day. Our trip to South Africa region was about $25k for two.
3.5 weeks. NZ and Tahiti, OZ was about $22k for 6 weeks.

Alex wrote:
Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 11:46:04 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/22/15 12:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger boasts.
- show quoted text -
" Again, more great information. The flexibility could work for me and
the price is significantly lower than what I expected. I'm going to
look into it further. "


Great, now the group will have to suffer your endless boasts about how
many airplanes you'll buy.
Jealousy rears it's head.


Perhaps it'll just be one. Two friends died decades ago in separate
crashes while flying their small private planes, and one died in the
crash of a private jet.

Jealousy about what, Bilious? Some of us don't even like to fly in much
safer commercial jets.
People die in commercial aircraft also. I used to like to fly commercial.
But over the years, the seating got tighter, and the hassles got bigger. I
still fly a few times a year. I was going to get a private pilots license
years ago, but not enough time with work, school and racing cars.
Just spend a few extra bucks and fly up front.

By the time you factor in all the BS fees it isn't even that much more
on a lot of routes.
When we went to Montana, the difference was about $350 and that did
not take into account 3 "extra" bags, food, drinks and convenience.
It wasn't even enough to burn airline points on.
Last two trips I went on, up front was outrageous. To Africa ways an extra
$5700 each for business, not even first. And NZ was $10K for both of us.

That's where you cash in the FF miles! They accumulate quickly if you
use their card for everyday purchases and don't waste them on short, cheap, flights.

I have a couple 100k of AMerican Airline FF miles. There are only a few
tickets to the South Pacific a year on their partner airlines. Short
cheap, I fly South West.

True North wrote:
Keysor says..

"Really? You brought up "jealousy." Why should anyone who doesn't give a
rat's ass about private aviation be jealous over whether one of the
dumb**** righties here takes flying lessons or buys planes?"


I agree wholeheartedly with this post. If someone gave me an airplane it
would be up for sale in a New York minute. Poor Swill, he seems to base a
person's worth solely on their possessions.

You were the one claiming Someone would be bragging on owning an airplane.
Not me. I base there worth on what they do with their life, not like you
do - possessions.

wrote:
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 15:07:58 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:


Just spend a few extra bucks and fly up front.

By the time you factor in all the BS fees it isn't even that much more
on a lot of routes.
When we went to Montana, the difference was about $350 and that did
not take into account 3 "extra" bags, food, drinks and convenience.
It wasn't even enough to burn airline points on.

Last two trips I went on, up front was outrageous. To Africa ways an extra
$5700 each for business, not even first. And NZ was $10K for both of us.

We did 1st class to LAX and premium economy to NZ. The bill was $8k,
not horrible and the "space seat" on Air New Zealand was not that much
different than the 1st class seat.
I think the food was the same and the drinks were still free.
I can't imagine doing that trip back in the cargo section.

We had more flying, but shorter distance mostly. LAX to Tahiti, 8 hours,
Tahiti to Auckland 4.5 hours, Auckland to Cannes, Australia, 5.5 hours. We
did do the direct Auckland to LAX on the return. Travel agent said approx
$10K for economy plus extra.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/22/15 4:03 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/22/15 12:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/22/15 12:09 AM, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Ditzy Dan Kruger boasts.
- show quoted text -
" Again, more great information. The flexibility could work for me and
the price is significantly lower than what I expected. I'm going to
look into it further. "


Great, now the group will have to suffer your endless boasts about how
many airplanes you'll buy.

Jealousy rears it's head.



Perhaps it'll just be one. Two friends died decades ago in separate
crashes while flying their small private planes, and one died in the
crash of a private jet.

Jealousy about what, Bilious? Some of us don't even like to fly in much
safer commercial jets.

People die in commercial aircraft also. I used to like to fly commercial.
But over the years, the seating got tighter, and the hassles got bigger. I
still fly a few times a year. I was going to get a private pilots license
years ago, but not enough time with work, school and racing cars.



What's with the "jealousy" comment, Bilious? Why would anyone be jealous
of one of the right-wing morons here taking flying lessons or buying a
half dozen airplanes? Where do you get these lame-brained ideas?

You can not seem to comprehend what is written.


Really? You brought up "jealousy." Why should anyone who doesn't give a
rat's ass about private aviation be jealous over whether one of the
dumb**** righties here takes flying lessons or buys planes?

Read what was wrote.

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:16:46 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Keysor says..

"Really? You brought up "jealousy." Why should anyone who doesn't give a
rat's ass about private aviation be jealous over whether one of the
dumb**** righties here takes flying lessons or buys planes?"


I agree wholeheartedly with this post. If someone gave me an airplane it would be up for sale in a New York minute. Poor Swill, he seems to base a person's worth solely on their possessions.

You're so full of surprises, et al.
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Ban idiots, not guns!

On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:07:51 -0400, Alex wrote:

True North wrote:
Keysor says..

"Really? You brought up "jealousy." Why should anyone who doesn't give a
rat's ass about private aviation be jealous over whether one of the
dumb**** righties here takes flying lessons or buys planes?"


I agree wholeheartedly with this post. If someone gave me an airplane it would be up for sale in a New York minute. Poor Swill, he seems to base a person's worth solely on their possessions.

It really seems like you are, dummy.

Nice post, BTW, your custom quoting misspelled your hero's name.

LOL!
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Ban idiots, not guns!