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On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 22:00:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: One thing is for sure Bar. This discussion has opened my eyes with regard to how touchy this subject is and how adamant and fundamental people are about their "gun rights". Even suggesting that maybe some reasonable controls be considered results in condemnation and ridicule by some. But what else is new? If you can't debate the subject ridicule the opponent. === No ridicule from me. I just think your wrong and told you why. |
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:39:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Well, I'd find it hard to believe that Boating All Out was actually *wrong* about something. === Do we know what part of the country BAO is from? I may be completely wrong about this but I think he's in Florida. I also think he used to post here under another name ... and I think his first name is Jim. Not FlaJim .. another Jim. I remember a "Jim" who wrote posts in the same style and manner. Bunch of very short sentences, rapid fire. === Jim Hertvik maybe? I believe he was from Ohio near the Vermillion River and Lake Erie. |
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says... On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 22:00:53 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: One thing is for sure Bar. This discussion has opened my eyes with regard to how touchy this subject is and how adamant and fundamental people are about their "gun rights". Even suggesting that maybe some reasonable controls be considered results in condemnation and ridicule by some. But what else is new? If you can't debate the subject ridicule the opponent. === No ridicule from me. I just think your wrong and told you why. Yeah, I know. My post was poorly worded by saying "this discussion". I was thinking more generally with regard to the national debate and media comments, not really those here in rec.boats. |
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On 11/2/2014 5:57 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:39:08 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Well, I'd find it hard to believe that Boating All Out was actually *wrong* about something. === Do we know what part of the country BAO is from? I may be completely wrong about this but I think he's in Florida. I also think he used to post here under another name ... and I think his first name is Jim. Not FlaJim .. another Jim. I remember a "Jim" who wrote posts in the same style and manner. Bunch of very short sentences, rapid fire. === Jim Hertvik maybe? I believe he was from Ohio near the Vermillion River and Lake Erie. No, not Hertvik although I remember him. It was a Jim and he was from Florida. I could be wrong about it being BOA though. He just has a very similar style of posting and oozed the same kind of "attitude". |
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On Sunday, November 2, 2014 7:11:59 PM UTC-5, wrote:
They are all just Kevin to me ;-) The real Kevin is on FB. He's just as Kevin on there as he was here. |
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On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:53:11 -0500, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On 11/2/2014 5:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 15:27:50 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 15:18:16 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 09:29:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/2/2014 9:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 08:07:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/2/2014 8:00 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 20:31:48 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 12:15:27 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: I never said that. I said the opposite. Most gun crimes are done with legally purchased guns. Stolen guns are a very small percentage. You've mistaken me for Basskisser. OK perhaps but what are you calling "gun crimes". Are you talking about acquaintance killings or are you talking about drug killings, robberies gone bad and gang violence? Gun crimes by legal gun owners. I would sure like to see some proof that most gun crimes are committed by legal gun owners. Define "legal" gun owners. What he said ...'most gun crimes are done with legally purchased guns'...and then...'gun crimes by legal gun owners'. I'm thinking that if I wanted to commit a crime with a gun, I wouldn't want to use one that's traceable back to me. If I had to use one that was traceable to me, then it would be somewhere in the Potomac when I was finished with it. The Chicago Tribune reports 440 murders in Chicago in 2013. You reckon most of those were committed by 'legal gun owners'? And then throw in Flint, New Orleans, Detroit, and Jackson. Most murders committed by legal gun owners? I find it hard to believe most crimes involving guns are committed by legal gun owners but then again, I don't know what "legal" means in the areas you mentioned. For example, I've looked at the gun laws in South Carolina. All you have to do is prove you are a resident and you can buy a gun. No permit, no license, no safety course. Nothing. A permit is required if you want to conceal carry however. === I don't think it's legal for a convicted felon to own a gun anywhere, and I suspect (but don't know) that most gun crimes are committed by those with prior convictions. Well, I'd find it hard to believe that Boating All Out was actually *wrong* about something. === Do we know what part of the country BAO is from? I may be completely wrong about this but I think he's in Florida. I also think he used to post here under another name ... and I think his first name is Jim. Not FlaJim .. another Jim. I remember a "Jim" who wrote posts in the same style and manner. Bunch of very short sentences, rapid fire. That Jim, didn't he banish himself after he misused a telephone? That was Jim Hertvik - from Ohio, I think. |
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On 11/2/2014 8:58 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:53:11 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/2/2014 5:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 15:27:50 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 15:18:16 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 09:29:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/2/2014 9:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 08:07:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/2/2014 8:00 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 20:31:48 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 12:15:27 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: I never said that. I said the opposite. Most gun crimes are done with legally purchased guns. Stolen guns are a very small percentage. You've mistaken me for Basskisser. OK perhaps but what are you calling "gun crimes". Are you talking about acquaintance killings or are you talking about drug killings, robberies gone bad and gang violence? Gun crimes by legal gun owners. I would sure like to see some proof that most gun crimes are committed by legal gun owners. Define "legal" gun owners. What he said ...'most gun crimes are done with legally purchased guns'...and then...'gun crimes by legal gun owners'. I'm thinking that if I wanted to commit a crime with a gun, I wouldn't want to use one that's traceable back to me. If I had to use one that was traceable to me, then it would be somewhere in the Potomac when I was finished with it. The Chicago Tribune reports 440 murders in Chicago in 2013. You reckon most of those were committed by 'legal gun owners'? And then throw in Flint, New Orleans, Detroit, and Jackson. Most murders committed by legal gun owners? I find it hard to believe most crimes involving guns are committed by legal gun owners but then again, I don't know what "legal" means in the areas you mentioned. For example, I've looked at the gun laws in South Carolina. All you have to do is prove you are a resident and you can buy a gun. No permit, no license, no safety course. Nothing. A permit is required if you want to conceal carry however. === I don't think it's legal for a convicted felon to own a gun anywhere, and I suspect (but don't know) that most gun crimes are committed by those with prior convictions. Well, I'd find it hard to believe that Boating All Out was actually *wrong* about something. === Do we know what part of the country BAO is from? I may be completely wrong about this but I think he's in Florida. I also think he used to post here under another name ... and I think his first name is Jim. Not FlaJim .. another Jim. I remember a "Jim" who wrote posts in the same style and manner. Bunch of very short sentences, rapid fire. That Jim, didn't he banish himself after he misused a telephone? That was Jim Hertvik - from Ohio, I think. Hertvik isn't the "Jim" I am referring to. |
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On 11/2/2014 9:32 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 21:04:04 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/2/2014 8:58 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 2 Nov 2014 17:53:11 -0500, BAR wrote: In article , says... On 11/2/2014 5:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 15:27:50 -0500, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 15:18:16 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 09:29:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/2/2014 9:11 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 08:07:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/2/2014 8:00 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 20:31:48 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 1 Nov 2014 12:15:27 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: I never said that. I said the opposite. Most gun crimes are done with legally purchased guns. Stolen guns are a very small percentage. You've mistaken me for Basskisser. OK perhaps but what are you calling "gun crimes". Are you talking about acquaintance killings or are you talking about drug killings, robberies gone bad and gang violence? Gun crimes by legal gun owners. I would sure like to see some proof that most gun crimes are committed by legal gun owners. Define "legal" gun owners. What he said ...'most gun crimes are done with legally purchased guns'...and then...'gun crimes by legal gun owners'. I'm thinking that if I wanted to commit a crime with a gun, I wouldn't want to use one that's traceable back to me. If I had to use one that was traceable to me, then it would be somewhere in the Potomac when I was finished with it. The Chicago Tribune reports 440 murders in Chicago in 2013. You reckon most of those were committed by 'legal gun owners'? And then throw in Flint, New Orleans, Detroit, and Jackson. Most murders committed by legal gun owners? I find it hard to believe most crimes involving guns are committed by legal gun owners but then again, I don't know what "legal" means in the areas you mentioned. For example, I've looked at the gun laws in South Carolina. All you have to do is prove you are a resident and you can buy a gun. No permit, no license, no safety course. Nothing. A permit is required if you want to conceal carry however. === I don't think it's legal for a convicted felon to own a gun anywhere, and I suspect (but don't know) that most gun crimes are committed by those with prior convictions. Well, I'd find it hard to believe that Boating All Out was actually *wrong* about something. === Do we know what part of the country BAO is from? I may be completely wrong about this but I think he's in Florida. I also think he used to post here under another name ... and I think his first name is Jim. Not FlaJim .. another Jim. I remember a "Jim" who wrote posts in the same style and manner. Bunch of very short sentences, rapid fire. That Jim, didn't he banish himself after he misused a telephone? That was Jim Hertvik - from Ohio, I think. Hertvik isn't the "Jim" I am referring to. All of these anonymous people are Kevin to me. It is just a generic name for anyone who doesn't value his own opinion enough to sign it. Except that if krause isn't dead, you know it's him. I am thinking he made an agreement with some sucker here and of course typical krause, he isn't keeping it. |
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