On 2/10/14, 5:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.

What 'bashing' of gays have I done? I've bashed headlines, news reports, and some 'inspirational'
statements, but I don't recall saying anything bad about gays themselves. Do you? Could you show me?
Or, as usual, are you making up more ****?



Sorry, John, but you're in the same sort of denial you were in when you
were bashing the black kids you babysat as a substitute teacher in
Northern Virginia. You may think you are being oblique, but your "code"
posts and disdain come through loud and clear. That your compadres here
high five you when you do this only makes it clearer.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On 2/10/2014 5:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained

case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.

Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained
case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"

If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a
Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,
including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic
mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital
residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor
movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and
presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.



Harry, with sincere respect for your wife's academic credentials, 25
years of direct and lecture circuit experience *and* recognizing that
she is probably one of thousands equally qualified in her field, why is
it that the plight of the homeless continues to be an ever increasing
and growing problem?

On 2/10/2014 5:58 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.

What 'bashing' of gays have I done? I've bashed headlines, news
reports, and some 'inspirational'
statements, but I don't recall saying anything bad about gays
themselves. Do you? Could you show me?
Or, as usual, are you making up more ****?



Sorry, John, but you're in the same sort of denial you were in when you
were bashing the black kids you babysat as a substitute teacher in
Northern Virginia. You may think you are being oblique, but your "code"
posts and disdain come through loud and clear. That your compadres here
high five you when you do this only makes it clearer.



I must be dumber than dirt because I don't detect any racism in John's
posts. Realism maybe, but not racism.

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 5:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:

I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for

you.



Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get

drunk/stoned)

Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not
most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ

It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful
employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked
out of the Army.



I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:48:57 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:33 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:06:26 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:



On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:



I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for



you.







Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get



drunk/stoned)



Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ



It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful

employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked

out of the Army.







I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained

case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.

Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



Perhaps I should. I would bet I have known more bums than you have

and the only ones you wife sees are the ones who want help or get

there by court order. I bet they walk away from treatment pretty

quickly.

Has she ever actually cured one? (call it 5 years productive and sober

just to make it a valid number)





How long would a homeless camp last next to your house? Hours?

Minutes?

I have already pointed out your beach towns have far stricter (perhaps

unconstitutional) laws against the homeless. I assume you are down

there protesting.





You're a funny guy.


Harry, what's so funny about Greg's simple question and brief statement? Looked ok to me.

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:





I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained



case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate



knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of



working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.



Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained

case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"



If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a

Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,

including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic

mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital

residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor

movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and

presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.



We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban

homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.


I used to watch a lot of programming on "The Health Channel". That didn't qualify me to be a physician. Or did it?

On 2/10/14, 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 5:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained

case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and
intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.

Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained
case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"

If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a
Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,
including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic
mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital
residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor
movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and
presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.



Harry, with sincere respect for your wife's academic credentials, 25
years of direct and lecture circuit experience *and* recognizing that
she is probably one of thousands equally qualified in her field, why is
it that the plight of the homeless continues to be an ever increasing
and growing problem?




Are you serious?

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On 2/10/2014 7:34 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 6:38 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 5:37 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:


I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally
trained

case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and
intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.

Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained
case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and
intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"

If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.



I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a
Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,
including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic
mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital
residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor
movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and
presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.



Harry, with sincere respect for your wife's academic credentials, 25
years of direct and lecture circuit experience *and* recognizing that
she is probably one of thousands equally qualified in her field, why is
it that the plight of the homeless continues to be an ever increasing
and growing problem?




Are you serious?



Absolutely. With that kind of horsepower applied to a problem one would
expect some serious social progress to have been made.

Heck, even lowly engineers have made great strides in problem solving in
that time frame. 25 years ago (or so) people were playing Asteroids
on Atari consoles.

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:58:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/10/14, 5:54 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.

What 'bashing' of gays have I done? I've bashed headlines, news reports, and some 'inspirational'
statements, but I don't recall saying anything bad about gays themselves. Do you? Could you show me?
Or, as usual, are you making up more ****?



Sorry, John, but you're in the same sort of denial you were in when you
were bashing the black kids you babysat as a substitute teacher in
Northern Virginia. You may think you are being oblique, but your "code"
posts and disdain come through loud and clear. That your compadres here
high five you when you do this only makes it clearer.

Never bashed black kids either, Harry. That's another story made up by you and your buddy.

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:38:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Harry, with sincere respect for your wife's academic credentials, 25
years of direct and lecture circuit experience *and* recognizing that
she is probably one of thousands equally qualified in her field, why is
it that the plight of the homeless continues to be an ever increasing
and growing problem?

===

It's a lot easier to talk the talk than it is to walk the walk.