On 2/11/14, 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:30:32 -0500, HanK wrote:

On 2/11/2014 1:09 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

I never got "the letter". I was safely ensconced in my 2S when I made
the decision to join up and the promises made were kept.
There was also a sense of actually "doing for my country" as JFK asked
us to do.
I understand that to you and your friends the whole concept of serving
your country was "just for suckers". Let someone else put their ass on
the line so you can be safe.


My friends and I, as you put it, did not associate serving this country
with going to Vietnam and killing Southeast Asians.

Since you mentioned it. What did you do to serve your country?

The reality is, he probably did the best thing for his country by not
enlisting.

He would probably one of those on the street with a dishonorable discharge.

On 2/11/14, 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 1:59 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/10/14, 2:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:

I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for

you.



Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get

drunk/stoned)

Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not
most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ

It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful
employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked
out of the Army.



I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.

if those Educated, DR. Dr. Dr. soial workers were worth a ****, why do
we have so many street people? Why are they street people, alcoholic,
drug users forever? Most people with a Psch. degree went in to the
field to find out why they, themselves, are screwed up. How many cure
themselves?


Perhaps you should just chalk up my posts on this matter as an
experiment of mine to see who in wrecked.boats had a black heart.

Maybe you should answer the question instead of changing the subject.
But that is your MO.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:48:44 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 2:32 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:09:34 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:43:21 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.

I never got "the letter". I was safely ensconced in my 2S when I made
the decision to join up and the promises made were kept.
There was also a sense of actually "doing for my country" as JFK asked
us to do.
I understand that to you and your friends the whole concept of serving
your country was "just for suckers". Let someone else put their ass on
the line so you can be safe.


My friends and I, as you put it, did not associate serving this country
with going to Vietnam and killing Southeast Asians.

Neither did I. When I joined we had just elected LBJ and he was going
to keep us out of that war. He promised.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/johnson%20vietnam%20lie.mp3
The fact is the majority of the people in the military as a whole,
never went to Vietnam.
With your credentials, you should have been able to land a spot in
Germany. Then you could have used all of those language skills you
brag about to meet people you didn't have to shoot at.



To what end? You fellows seem to think that I missed something important
by not going into the military and having the opportunity to kill people
who meant my country no wrong.

I did spend nearly a year in Vietnam, up close and personal to the
action, but as a civilian. I saw a significant number of dead people of
both sides, and I often asked myself, "What the hell was this guy doing
here, fighting in a really stupid war and dying for nothing." And in
the end, that is all the guys on both sides died for...absolutely nothing.

Only the military contractors gained from that war. Oh, and of course,
the officer corps, because wars create billets and promotional
opportunities.

Promotional opportunities went to enlisted and warrant officers also. If you'd been, you'd have
know.

On 2/11/14, 3:02 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/11/14, 11:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 1:59 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/10/14, 2:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:

I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane
for

you.



Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get

drunk/stoned)

Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not
most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ

It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful
employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked
out of the Army.



I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and
intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.

if those Educated, DR. Dr. Dr. soial workers were worth a ****, why do
we have so many street people? Why are they street people, alcoholic,
drug users forever? Most people with a Psch. degree went in to the
field to find out why they, themselves, are screwed up. How many cure
themselves?


Perhaps you should just chalk up my posts on this matter as an
experiment of mine to see who in wrecked.boats had a black heart.

Maybe you should answer the question instead of changing the subject.
But that is your MO.


Maybe I thought your question was too ludicrous to answer.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:35:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 1:59 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/10/14, 2:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:

I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for

you.



Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get

drunk/stoned)

Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not
most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ

It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful
employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked
out of the Army.



I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.

if those Educated, DR. Dr. Dr. soial workers were worth a ****, why do
we have so many street people? Why are they street people, alcoholic,
drug users forever? Most people with a Psch. degree went in to the
field to find out why they, themselves, are screwed up. How many cure
themselves?


Perhaps you should just chalk up my posts on this matter as an
experiment of mine to see who in wrecked.boats had a black heart.

You make up something about blankets and somehow derive 'black heart'. Weren't you the one talking
about 'scientific' yesterday?

Hee, hee.

On 2/11/14, 3:08 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:35:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 1:59 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/10/14, 2:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:

I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for

you.



Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get

drunk/stoned)

Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not
most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ

It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful
employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked
out of the Army.



I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.

if those Educated, DR. Dr. Dr. soial workers were worth a ****, why do
we have so many street people? Why are they street people, alcoholic,
drug users forever? Most people with a Psch. degree went in to the
field to find out why they, themselves, are screwed up. How many cure
themselves?


Perhaps you should just chalk up my posts on this matter as an
experiment of mine to see who in wrecked.boats had a black heart.

You make up something about blankets and somehow derive 'black heart'. Weren't you the one talking
about 'scientific' yesterday?

Hee, hee.


All I did was post an article with a URL and then later ask a question.
I never stated or implied I was conducting a scientific experiment, but
the post and responses certainly revealed who here had a black heart.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:12:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 3:08 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:35:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 1:59 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/10/14, 2:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:

I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for

you.



Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get

drunk/stoned)

Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not
most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ

It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful
employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked
out of the Army.



I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.

if those Educated, DR. Dr. Dr. soial workers were worth a ****, why do
we have so many street people? Why are they street people, alcoholic,
drug users forever? Most people with a Psch. degree went in to the
field to find out why they, themselves, are screwed up. How many cure
themselves?


Perhaps you should just chalk up my posts on this matter as an
experiment of mine to see who in wrecked.boats had a black heart.

You make up something about blankets and somehow derive 'black heart'. Weren't you the one talking
about 'scientific' yesterday?

Hee, hee.


All I did was post an article with a URL and then later ask a question.
I never stated or implied I was conducting a scientific experiment, but
the post and responses certainly revealed who here had a black heart.

Ah, yes. Our own little psychologist, right here in rec.boats.

On 2/11/14, 4:15 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:12:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 3:08 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:35:50 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 1:59 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/10/14, 2:06 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 4:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:55 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 9:12:05 AM UTC-6, wrote:

I suppose the idea of moving them to a shelter is just too humane for

you.



Of course they would lose their "freedom" (freedom to get

drunk/stoned)

Or their 'freedom' in general. You can't tell me that many[if not
most] of the 'shelterless' don't have this attitude-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvLLQAAr8zQ

It is usually their quest for "freedom" that keeps them from gainful
employment, keeps them from going to shelters and what got them kicked
out of the Army.



I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.

if those Educated, DR. Dr. Dr. soial workers were worth a ****, why do
we have so many street people? Why are they street people, alcoholic,
drug users forever? Most people with a Psch. degree went in to the
field to find out why they, themselves, are screwed up. How many cure
themselves?


Perhaps you should just chalk up my posts on this matter as an
experiment of mine to see who in wrecked.boats had a black heart.

You make up something about blankets and somehow derive 'black heart'. Weren't you the one talking
about 'scientific' yesterday?

Hee, hee.


All I did was post an article with a URL and then later ask a question.
I never stated or implied I was conducting a scientific experiment, but
the post and responses certainly revealed who here had a black heart.

Ah, yes. Our own little psychologist, right here in rec.boats.



This joint has to be good for something. When I find out what it is,
I'll let you know.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On 2/11/14, 4:28 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 14:50:04 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 2:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:10:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 11:16 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:24:29 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

do you think it is
moral to take a blanket away from a homeless person?

Telling a lie over and over does not make it true.


Can't answer the question, eh?

You can't demonstrate that ANYONE EVER took a blanket from a homeless
person.


You still don't get it. As I posted earlier, just chalk it up as an
experiment on my part to see who had a black heart.

I get it, start out with a lie and see who calls you on it.

You still never addressed the policy right up the road from you that
has exactly the same effect. If a homeless person tried to spend the
night in your beach towns they would be run off, blanket or not.


It wasn't a lie, silly. I simply posted a URL that discussed what was
happening in Pensacola. I believe that article discussed taking blankets
from the homeless.

As for Chesapeake Beach, which you keep bringing up, you should know
that we don't spend any time there, other than to drive through it once
in a while on the way to somewhere else. Years ago, we used to frequent
a nice little restaurant that specialized in Italian seafood dishes such
as cozze, but it changed hands and so did the menu. Most of the rest of
the restaurants there still reek of cigarettes from the days when
smoking in them was allowed, so we avoid them.

I have no idea what is happening in Chesapeake Beach in the homeless.




--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On 2/11/14, 4:38 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:17:40 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


This joint has to be good for something. When I find out what it is,
I'll let you know.

I already know, it gives you a place to attempt to assert some
perceived superiority over others.
The only problem for you is that you get exposed as misinformed as
often as you actually make a valid point.

In this case you are complaining about a policy that is actually less
oppressive than one in a town 10 minutes from your house.

Bums can't sleep on the streets, parks and beaches in those towns,
blanket or not.


Yawn.

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.