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On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:37:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban
homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.

No doubt you had a lot in common with the "urban" homeless because so
many of them were starving with their liberal arts degree. ;-)

That still has little to do with the stumble bums that inhabit the
camps in Florida, at least according to the people who study them
here.
They tend to be substance abusers, perhaps registered sex offenders
according to the last round of articles and news shows. Most could be
diagnosed with some kind of mental problem. Of course, if you ask a
psychologist, everyone has some kind of mental problem.

I don't know how many "homeless" people there are now.
There will always be some fitting your description.
It used to be mostly mentally disturbed people and winos.
But widespread, it's an "economic" problem.
More jobs will get rid of much of it.

On Monday, February 10, 2014 6:41:15 PM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
25 years ago (or so) people were playing Asteroids

on Atari consoles.


I still have a couple machines, with the cartridges too. (Froger and Breakout are my favorites.)

Krausebag wrote:
I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a
Ph.D ...

Don't forget Krausebag, that she also and a medical doctor's degree and another PhD. You're a lucky guy to live with such an accomplished woman!

On 2/10/2014 5:45 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:





I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained



case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate



knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of



working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.



Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained

case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"



If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a

Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,

including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic

mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital

residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor

movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and

presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

But, we're not talking about 'her'.


We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban

homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.



I very seriously doubt that, that is unless you spend at least a couple weeks a year for the past 7 years working in soup kitchens in Peoria and St. Louis.- or similar places.


I go away for a day and you guys are all over each and every lie sent
your way...LOL!

On 2/10/2014 7:30 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:





I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained



case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate



knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of



working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.



Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained

case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"



If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a

Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,

including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic

mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital

residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor

movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and

presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

Oh bull ****ing ****....



We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban

homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.


I used to watch a lot of programming on "The Health Channel". That didn't qualify me to be a physician. Or did it?

On 2/11/2014 3:31 AM, KC wrote:
On 2/10/2014 5:45 PM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:37:31 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 5:29 PM, Tim wrote:

On Monday, February 10, 2014 4:06:26 PM UTC-6, F.O.A.D. wrote:





I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally
trained



case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and
intimate



knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of



working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.



Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







Harry, are you a"university and professionally trained

case worker with at least a bachelors degree in social work and
intimate

knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of

working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks?"



If so, perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.







I live with a university and professionally trained social worker with a

Ph.D who has worked with thousands of people in her 25-year career,

including many homeless people, in venues such as large state forensic

mental hospitals, county day treatment facilities, private hospital

residential facilities, private psychiatric hospitals, the labor

movement, and in private practice, and who gives lectures and

presentations on various subjects related to the human condition.

But, we're not talking about 'her'.


We talk a lot, and I suspect I have met and talked to more urban

homeless people than Gregg, you, or our resident gay basher.



I very seriously doubt that, that is unless you spend at least a
couple weeks a year for the past 7 years working in soup kitchens in
Peoria and St. Louis.- or similar places.


I go away for a day and you guys are all over each and every lie sent
your way...LOL!

Another day another lie from our beloved YKW.

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.

On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!

On 2/11/14, 8:27 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:06 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 2/11/14, 7:43 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:52:41 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/10/2014 5:38 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:

I had *no* idea you righties were university and professionally trained
case workers with at least bachelors degrees in social work and intimate
knowledge of the plight of the homeless gained from your years of
working directly with hundreds or even thousands of homeless folks.
Perhaps you should get on the lecture circuit.


There you go again assuming that a specific degree is required to make
fundamental conclusions based on experience and common sense. It's
amazing that so many parents can successfully raise and guide kids for
18 years without benefit of some advanced degree in child psychology.


Raising a few rug rats doesn't equate helping the homeless.


Helping the homeless has a prerequisite that raising kids does not.
The homeless are required to *want* help.

Play an imaginary game. Assume you have a bus with 50 seats. You drive
to an area know to be populated with homeless men and announce that you
will transport them to a shelter where they will receive food, clothing,
job training and employment assistance to acquire a job.

How many men do you think you would have to ask in order to fill up the bus?

~~crickets~~

I had a feeling this would go unanswered by our resident almost-psychotherapist's assistant.


Too hypothetical for an answer. You understand hypothetical, right?

Hee-hee!



Since I haven't designed and run a study that would investigate the
question properly and scientifically, and since I haven't read any such
studies, any answer I might give would be nothing more than a wild-assed
guess.

It's an interesting posit, though. Isn't that sort of how you entered
the military...you were promised food, clothing, training, and a
paycheck? Why, I'll bet almost everyone who received that "Report for a
Physical" letter got on the bus, right?

But, hey, go ahead and cackle.



--
Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of
her house.