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"0" Pirating last year?
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H."
wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. |
#12
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"0" Pirating last year?
Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Lots of countries have anti gun laws. |
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"0" Pirating last year?
On Friday, January 10, 2014 11:38:21 PM UTC-6, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Lots of countries have anti gun laws. That's why you arm up in int'l water. |
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"0" Pirating last year?
On 1/10/2014 9:52 PM, John H. wrote:
On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. Because it would escalate, the pirates would swarm with rockets and it only takes one to get to the big ship hull and it's over... Either way, they do not want that escalation, I think they would rather have the ship be taken, and then fight with professionals, on known ground rather than even professionals fighting after being surprised on the open ocean... It the incident they made the movie about, the US special forces "fought" (blew the suckers heads off) after making the circumstances, and setting the playing field... No innocents got hurt, the ship was not damaged... |
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"0" Pirating last year?
On 1/10/2014 11:25 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Sure, but they are mounted on choppers and go fasts... Not to mention, if you bring something big enough to shoot back at the CG with, a quick radio call and it's gonna' rain depleted uranium on your ass in minutes... I doubt a private ship has that kind of backup... |
#16
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:38:21 -0600, Califbill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Lots of countries have anti gun laws. Most of them don't have pirates. Look at how much Detroit and Chicago have been helped by allowing guns! -- Hope you're day is spectacular! |
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On 1/10/14, 9:52 PM, John H. wrote:
The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. Most merchant vessels, even American-flagged ones, have minimal crews these days, and at night, when the majority of pirate boardings take place, the number of able seamen and lower rank officers on watch duty is even lower. Further, the shipboard radar sets on merchant vessels aren't likely on the high seas to pick up a small, low profile "pirate" vessel from among the rest of the clutter on the screen. What will arming merchant ships with 50-caliber machine guns do? It will ensure that more merchant ship crew members are killed. There are many who believe that firearms are the answer to every outbreak of social unrest and crime. The fact that more Americans are killed with firearms every day in their own country than have been killed by the Somali pirates in decades should tell us something. |
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On 1/11/14, 8:44 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 23:38:21 -0600, Califbill wrote: Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:52:00 -0800 (PST), "John H." wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:10:13 PM UTC-5, KC wrote: On 1/10/2014 7:28 PM, Tim wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2014 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote: On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:19:12 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: A "LAWS" wouldn't hurt either. Well, depends on which end your on... Their effective range is pretty short, well within AK-47 range. Colonel William Prescott "Don't fire till you see the whites of their eyes!" The problem with fighting back with small arms or rockets, is they can stand off a ways and sink you with theirs a lot easier than you can hit them in their tiny boats... or run a cable and disable you, then hit you with the rockets...That is what I heard anyway, as a reason why the bigger ships just can't fight them off with small arms.... The .50 cal machine gun can shoot a mile off. Being a machine gun, it can put a lot of rounds on target. Why they don't put one on every ship is beyond me. === It seems to work for the Coast Guard. Lots of countries have anti gun laws. Most of them don't have pirates. Look at how much Detroit and Chicago have been helped by allowing guns! -- Hope you're day is spectacular! I'm hoping you know this, and your misuse of "you're" is deliberate. If not, someone should have been kind enough to tell you by now that "you're" is the contraction of "you are." The word you want is "your." Hope *your* day is spectacular. Have a nice day. -- I’ll be delighted to stop my war on religion when the Republicans stop their war on women, workers, unions, teachers, textbooks, gays, voting rights, minorities, science, the environment, the separation of church and state, the poor, the unemployed, the middle class, common decency and common sense. |
#19
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On 1/11/2014 8:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
I'm hoping you know this, and your misuse of "you're" is deliberate. If not, someone should have been kind enough to tell you by now that "you're" is the contraction of "you are." The word you want is "your." Hope *your* day is spectacular. Have a nice day. -- I’ll be delighted to stop my war on religion when the Republicans stop their war on women, workers, unions, teachers, textbooks, gays, voting rights, minorities, science, the environment, the separation of church and state, the poor, the unemployed, the middle class, common decency and common sense. Forever the asshole. You have back taxes dating back to the mid nineties. FYI Jane Lynch is getting a divorce from her husband, wife, significant other, partner. or whatever you want to call it. The other party is seeking 100K monthly alimony. I suppose that's as legitimate as the sanctity of gay marriage. Right? |
#20
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On 1/11/2014 8:51 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
The fact that more Americans are killed with firearms every day in their own country than have been killed by the Somali pirates in decades should tell us something. Tell us what, asshole? |
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