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Speaking of guns and horses
On 11/16/2013 5:19 PM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:52:07 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 11/16/2013 12:16 PM, Hank© wrote: On 11/16/2013 12:03 PM, BAR wrote: In article , says... I was just reading that a selectman in a town here in MA (Shrewsbury) has raised an issue regarding gun ownership. He feels that local police departments should have the authority to visit registered gun owners' homes and inspect for required safe storage of the guns. His point is that laws exist that require locks and/or safes for guns but there are no means of enforcing these laws. Hmmmmm.... I pondered that one for a little bit then, because of the discussions here about horses, I realized something. A permit is required to have horses permanently on your property ... at least in our town and many others. The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) and that may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? I don't know. What are you going to do when they want to inspect your toilets to ensure that you are using low flow models. What are you going to do when you they want to inspect your light fixtures to ensure that you are using the light bulb they demand that you use. The issues is when do you stand up for your rights? There are so many deadbeats voting now that the vision of states and individual rights is only a fading memory. The people I get a kick out of are the ones demanding their "rights" yet have never contributed or done anything to protect or defend those rights. They just want them. Here's an example: We have a person here who *demands* his right to bear arms who: a. Never served in the military or other public service organization like the Peace Corps, etc., to support that right (other than be hatched here.) b. Doesn't own a firearm. c. Doesn't even have a permit to own a firearm. Yet, the same person complained that I was jeopardizing his "rights" because I indicated I'd have no problem with a cop inspecting how I stored my firearms to ensure compliance with state and local laws. That cracked me up. I have no problem with those who never served in the military or other national service of some kind. That's up to them and there's nothing wrong with it. But don't tell me I am putting their "rights" in jeopardy simply because I choose to accept reasonable gun laws intended to promote public safety. I earned my right to decide that. I'm not sure to whom you're referring, 'cause I don't know who does/doesn't own a firearm. Maybe I've not been paying close enough attention. But, one's 'rights' under the Constitution should have no bearing whatsoever on the service they have or haven't rendered to this country. I have no problem with you letting whomever you want into your house for whatever reason. I *would* have a problem with an uninvited, warrantless search of my house by the cops or anyone else. And I would have a big problem with some city council passing a law which made warrantless searches without cause possible. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! First of all, it wasn't you complaining that my acceptance of a safety inspection put *your* rights at risk. It was Scott. Second, the guy who is promoting the concept of home inspections isn't advocating a restriction on the right to bear arms protected by the Second Amendment. He's basically saying that in order to get a permit to own and store a firearm, you agree to allow an inspection of how you store them. If you don't agree ... no permit. That's why I don't have a problem with it, even if it eventually gets enacted into law. To get a permit as it is in this state, we already must submit to a background check, be fingerprinted and every purchase or sale of a gun by us is kept ... ergo "Registry". I have no problem with any of that either. Maybe if I were of a criminal mind I would. |
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