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Speaking of guns and horses
I was just reading that a selectman in a town here in MA (Shrewsbury) has raised an issue regarding gun ownership. He feels that local police departments should have the authority to visit registered gun owners' homes and inspect for required safe storage of the guns. His point is that laws exist that require locks and/or safes for guns but there are no means of enforcing these laws. Hmmmmm.... I pondered that one for a little bit then, because of the discussions here about horses, I realized something. A permit is required to have horses permanently on your property ... at least in our town and many others. The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) and that may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? I don't know. |
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:21:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
I was just reading that a selectman in a town here in MA (Shrewsbury) has raised an issue regarding gun ownership. He feels that local police departments should have the authority to visit registered gun owners' homes and inspect for required safe storage of the guns. His point is that laws exist that require locks and/or safes for guns but there are no means of enforcing these laws. Hmmmmm.... I pondered that one for a little bit then, because of the discussions here about horses, I realized something. A permit is required to have horses permanently on your property ... at least in our town and many others. The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) and that may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? I don't know. The big difference is in the 'confiscation' arena, which seems to be the next step up the anti-gun ladder. It sounds as though protection of the horse is the name of their 'inspection' game. You reckon they're trying to protect guns with their safety inspections. Suppose you like to sleep with a loaded pistol under your pillow? Does Joe Cop get to confiscate it if he finds it? Sounds like about ten too many liberals on the town council. You'd probably love it if they confiscated the horse! John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 11/12/2013 3:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
I was just reading that a selectman in a town here in MA (Shrewsbury) has raised an issue regarding gun ownership. He feels that local police departments should have the authority to visit registered gun owners' homes and inspect for required safe storage of the guns. His point is that laws exist that require locks and/or safes for guns but there are no means of enforcing these laws. Hmmmmm.... I pondered that one for a little bit then, because of the discussions here about horses, I realized something. A permit is required to have horses permanently on your property ... at least in our town and many others. The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) and that may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? I don't know. Meant to say, "sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) and *people* who may visit in the barn area". |
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On 11/12/2013 3:32 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:21:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I was just reading that a selectman in a town here in MA (Shrewsbury) has raised an issue regarding gun ownership. He feels that local police departments should have the authority to visit registered gun owners' homes and inspect for required safe storage of the guns. His point is that laws exist that require locks and/or safes for guns but there are no means of enforcing these laws. Hmmmmm.... I pondered that one for a little bit then, because of the discussions here about horses, I realized something. A permit is required to have horses permanently on your property ... at least in our town and many others. The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) (*and people*) who may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? I don't know. Suppose you like to sleep with a loaded pistol under your pillow? Doesn't everybody? |
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:36:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/12/2013 3:32 PM, John H wrote: On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:21:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: I was just reading that a selectman in a town here in MA (Shrewsbury) has raised an issue regarding gun ownership. He feels that local police departments should have the authority to visit registered gun owners' homes and inspect for required safe storage of the guns. His point is that laws exist that require locks and/or safes for guns but there are no means of enforcing these laws. Hmmmmm.... I pondered that one for a little bit then, because of the discussions here about horses, I realized something. A permit is required to have horses permanently on your property ... at least in our town and many others. The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) (*and people*) who may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? I don't know. Suppose you like to sleep with a loaded pistol under your pillow? Doesn't everybody? Yeah, but it's uncomfortable as hell - having that loaded pistol in a big bulky safe. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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On 11/12/13, 3:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
I was just reading that a selectman in a town here in MA (Shrewsbury) has raised an issue regarding gun ownership. He feels that local police departments should have the authority to visit registered gun owners' homes and inspect for required safe storage of the guns. His point is that laws exist that require locks and/or safes for guns but there are no means of enforcing these laws. Hmmmmm.... I pondered that one for a little bit then, because of the discussions here about horses, I realized something. A permit is required to have horses permanently on your property ... at least in our town and many others. The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) and that may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? I don't know. The fact that there are going to be inspections should be widely announced, but the inspections themselves should be unannounced...just a ring of the doorbell. But my guess is that the NRA would seek and get a TRO. -- Religion: together we can find the cure. |
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:21:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) and that may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? === Yes, big difference, unless your stable is also your dwelling. Inspecting the interior of a home except at the time of construction or renovation generally requires a search warrant and probable cause, and that's the way it should stay unless you want to roll the clock back to colonial times and British rule. It's another example of northeastern nanny state mentality run amok. |
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:11:25 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:21:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) and that may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? === Yes, big difference, unless your stable is also your dwelling. Inspecting the interior of a home except at the time of construction or renovation generally requires a search warrant and probable cause, and that's the way it should stay unless you want to roll the clock back to colonial times and British rule. It's another example of northeastern nanny state mentality run amok. Yeah, what he said. John H. -- Hope you're having a great day! |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 11/12/13, 3:21 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: I was just reading that a selectman in a town here in MA (Shrewsbury) has raised an issue regarding gun ownership. He feels that local police departments should have the authority to visit registered gun owners' homes and inspect for required safe storage of the guns. His point is that laws exist that require locks and/or safes for guns but there are no means of enforcing these laws. Hmmmmm.... I pondered that one for a little bit then, because of the discussions here about horses, I realized something. A permit is required to have horses permanently on your property ... at least in our town and many others. The permit is issued yearly based on an inspection of the stables, barn, and grounds by the animal control inspector. She checks to ensure sanitary and safe conditions for both the horse(s) and that may visit in the barn area. Is that any different than home inspections for the safe storage of firearms? I don't know. The fact that there are going to be inspections should be widely announced, but the inspections themselves should be unannounced...just a ring of the doorbell. But my guess is that the NRA would seek and get a TRO. Sounds like with that reasoning, the state can come in and inspect any dwelling or land. Might be a building without the proper permit. Maybe you have a leaking toilet, and wasting water. Something that was addressed in the Constitution. DC court tossed the permit to own a gun in DC, did in they? |
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