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says...

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:13:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

http://www.gwinnettmugs.com/

Do you mean this one

NO PROOF OF INSURANCE
DRIVING ON A SUSPENDED LICENSE
SUSP TAG
SEATBELT VIOLATIONS

Or this one

NO PROOF INS
SUSP REGISTRATION
SUSPENDED/REVOKED LIC
LICENSE: DRIVING WHILE UNLICENSED OR EX

Somehow I doubt the lack of insurance is why they went to jail.

Oh, hell, I've tried to tell you, when your insurance goes, so goes your
tag, thus suspended.

Find me one where the only charge is a lack of insurance (perhaps with
some minor traffic violation) and I will believe you.
These people were arrested for driving without a valid driver's
license.

You won't find one with just lack of insurance because as I've said over
and over, lack of insurance electronically generates suspended
registration. I completely realize that you know more about the laws in
this state than someone who lives here, so:

http://tinyurl.com/k72pxmo

http://tinyurl.com/882qqnt

That says: Not having insurance is a misdemeanor. The minimum fine is
$200.00. For a first offense your driver's license will be suspended for
60 days. For a second offense within a five year period, your driver's
license along with your license tag and tag registration will be
suspended for 90 days.

If no new insurance information is received within the thirty-day (30)
time period allowed, a thirty-day (30) "Notice of Pending Suspension"
will be printed and mailed to the vehicle?s registered owner advising
the owner that their vehicle?s registration is subject to suspension.
This letter will include what is required to avoid suspension and fines.

Important: Driving a vehicle with a cancelled, suspended or revoked
registration is a misdemeanor and may result in the impoundment of the
vehicle by law enforcement when discovered.

Notice if you will, "impoundment of the vehicle". Of course, you full
well know that bond can be required for just about anything in Georgia,
and is MOST of the time when it's insurance, and registration related.


Kevin at his finest.

you say the tags are "electronically" suspended immediately and then
post a link that says "The state might even go so far as to suspend
your vehicle registration, which will result in a $60 fee"

Of course that link is not from the state, it is a threatening missive
from the insurance industry.

The state site you linked comes with a disclaimer
"There is a way to keep your Georgia driver's license from being
suspended on a first offense. Check with your attorney on how to do
this."
so it is really only poor people who are affected.

I ask again, give me a cite of someone who was arrested for simply not
having insurance, even if the state "went so far" as suspending the
tag. (no warrants, drugs "eluding"or driving on a suspended driver's
license)

YOU MORON!!! I've said over and over, when the insurance is canceled, so
is the TAG.... Now someone with a brain would then realize that the two
go hand in hand. Thus, you get pulled over for it, you get cited for no
insurance AND suspended tag. Now in short, I don't give a **** whether
you believe me or not, hell you won't believe what the state of GA says
about their own laws, so what's the point in trying to educate you?

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On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:34:08 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:57:20 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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I suspect we will all have transponders in our cars soon anyway and
the whole tag thing will be an anachronism. The cops will have the id
if every car and likely driver they get close to popping up on their
computer. They already have tag scanners that do that on the fender
but it is somewhat flawed by the artistic designs if the tags.

Here insurance proof is electronic. No insurance, no tag, don't even
have to show a paper copy. Insurance lapses, tag is deemed invalid, LEO
runs the tag, finds out that uninsured and therefore tag is invalid, go
to jail, car towed.

Cite?

I know that may be what the law says but I bet it doesn't happen.

To hell it doesn't! Here you go, check it out. Second row down, far
right. Make sure you have the date as 11/18/2013. Then fifth row, fifth
from the left. ****, I've lived here many many years, yet you act like
you know more about the laws and the LEO's actions regarding them than I
do! It's automatic, no insurance, tag shows as expired immediately.

http://www.gwinnettmugs.com/


Wow, you're right close to Lake Lanier, Loogy. How's the water level there now. Are you still
keeping a boat there, or are you boatless now?

Gwinnet County, GA. Must be a nice place to live, if all those mug shots are indicative of the
population.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Uh, that was given as an example, moron! But life in my part of Georgia
is very nice!

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:13:36 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:34:08 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:57:20 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


I suspect we will all have transponders in our cars soon anyway and
the whole tag thing will be an anachronism. The cops will have the id
if every car and likely driver they get close to popping up on their
computer. They already have tag scanners that do that on the fender
but it is somewhat flawed by the artistic designs if the tags.

Here insurance proof is electronic. No insurance, no tag, don't even
have to show a paper copy. Insurance lapses, tag is deemed invalid, LEO
runs the tag, finds out that uninsured and therefore tag is invalid, go
to jail, car towed.

Cite?

I know that may be what the law says but I bet it doesn't happen.

To hell it doesn't! Here you go, check it out. Second row down, far
right. Make sure you have the date as 11/18/2013. Then fifth row, fifth
from the left. ****, I've lived here many many years, yet you act like
you know more about the laws and the LEO's actions regarding them than I
do! It's automatic, no insurance, tag shows as expired immediately.

http://www.gwinnettmugs.com/

Do you mean this one

NO PROOF OF INSURANCE
DRIVING ON A SUSPENDED LICENSE
SUSP TAG
SEATBELT VIOLATIONS

Or this one

NO PROOF INS
SUSP REGISTRATION
SUSPENDED/REVOKED LIC
LICENSE: DRIVING WHILE UNLICENSED OR EX

Somehow I doubt the lack of insurance is why they went to jail.

Oh, hell, I've tried to tell you, when your insurance goes, so goes your
tag, thus suspended.

Find me one where the only charge is a lack of insurance (perhaps with
some minor traffic violation) and I will believe you.
These people were arrested for driving without a valid driver's
license.

You won't find one with just lack of insurance because as I've said over
and over, lack of insurance electronically generates suspended
registration. I completely realize that you know more about the laws in
this state than someone who lives here, so:

http://tinyurl.com/k72pxmo

http://tinyurl.com/882qqnt

That says: Not having insurance is a misdemeanor. The minimum fine is
$200.00. For a first offense your driver's license will be suspended for
60 days. For a second offense within a five year period, your driver's
license along with your license tag and tag registration will be
suspended for 90 days.

If no new insurance information is received within the thirty-day (30)
time period allowed, a thirty-day (30) "Notice of Pending Suspension"
will be printed and mailed to the vehicle?s registered owner advising
the owner that their vehicle?s registration is subject to suspension.
This letter will include what is required to avoid suspension and fines.

Important: Driving a vehicle with a cancelled, suspended or revoked
registration is a misdemeanor and may result in the impoundment of the
vehicle by law enforcement when discovered.

Notice if you will, "impoundment of the vehicle". Of course, you full
well know that bond can be required for just about anything in Georgia,
and is MOST of the time when it's insurance, and registration related.


I see nothing there about going to jail, as you stated. Are you making stuff up again?

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

Come down here, get caught driving without insurance and see, dip****!

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:53:31 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:29:38 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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says...

I ask again, give me a cite of someone who was arrested for simply not
having insurance, even if the state "went so far" as suspending the
tag. (no warrants, drugs "eluding"or driving on a suspended driver's
license)

YOU MORON!!! I've said over and over, when the insurance is canceled, so
is the TAG.... Now someone with a brain would then realize that the two
go hand in hand. Thus, you get pulled over for it, you get cited for no
insurance AND suspended tag. Now in short, I don't give a **** whether
you believe me or not, hell you won't believe what the state of GA says
about their own laws, so what's the point in trying to educate you?

Yet you can only show me examples of people driving WITHOUT A DRIVERS
LICENSE.

You let insurance companies and defense lawyers (the 2 cites you gave)
trick you into believing things that are not true.

I understand they pass laws like this all the time but they are
largely toothless, hence the number of uninsured drivers on the road.

The fact that you are down to name calling means you are out of ammo.

Nah, he's just ****ed because he blew his cover - for about the 37th time.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:34:08 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:57:20 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


I suspect we will all have transponders in our cars soon anyway and
the whole tag thing will be an anachronism. The cops will have the id
if every car and likely driver they get close to popping up on their
computer. They already have tag scanners that do that on the fender
but it is somewhat flawed by the artistic designs if the tags.

Here insurance proof is electronic. No insurance, no tag, don't even
have to show a paper copy. Insurance lapses, tag is deemed invalid, LEO
runs the tag, finds out that uninsured and therefore tag is invalid, go
to jail, car towed.

Cite?

I know that may be what the law says but I bet it doesn't happen.

To hell it doesn't! Here you go, check it out. Second row down, far
right. Make sure you have the date as 11/18/2013. Then fifth row, fifth
from the left. ****, I've lived here many many years, yet you act like
you know more about the laws and the LEO's actions regarding them than I
do! It's automatic, no insurance, tag shows as expired immediately.

http://www.gwinnettmugs.com/

Do you mean this one

NO PROOF OF INSURANCE
DRIVING ON A SUSPENDED LICENSE
SUSP TAG
SEATBELT VIOLATIONS

Or this one

NO PROOF INS
SUSP REGISTRATION
SUSPENDED/REVOKED LIC
LICENSE: DRIVING WHILE UNLICENSED OR EX

Somehow I doubt the lack of insurance is why they went to jail.

Oh, hell, I've tried to tell you, when your insurance goes, so goes your
tag, thus suspended.

Find me one where the only charge is a lack of insurance (perhaps with
some minor traffic violation) and I will believe you.
These people were arrested for driving without a valid driver's
license.

You won't find one with just lack of insurance because as I've said over
and over, lack of insurance electronically generates suspended
registration. I completely realize that you know more about the laws in
this state than someone who lives here, so:

http://tinyurl.com/k72pxmo

http://tinyurl.com/882qqnt

That says: Not having insurance is a misdemeanor. The minimum fine is
$200.00. For a first offense your driver's license will be suspended for
60 days. For a second offense within a five year period, your driver's
license along with your license tag and tag registration will be
suspended for 90 days.

If no new insurance information is received within the thirty-day (30)
time period allowed, a thirty-day (30) "Notice of Pending Suspension"
will be printed and mailed to the vehicle?s registered owner advising
the owner that their vehicle?s registration is subject to suspension.
This letter will include what is required to avoid suspension and fines.

Important: Driving a vehicle with a cancelled, suspended or revoked
registration is a misdemeanor and may result in the impoundment of the
vehicle by law enforcement when discovered.

Notice if you will, "impoundment of the vehicle". Of course, you full
well know that bond can be required for just about anything in Georgia,
and is MOST of the time when it's insurance, and registration related.

Where does it state jail time?

iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:33:12 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 11/18/13, 6:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Nov 2013 13:35:30 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:



But LEO use the tags. They know all about you before they pull you over
because they've run your tag. As a matter of fact, I got pulled over one
time because the cop was one number or letter off. I knew I didn't do
anything wrong, and when the cop came up to the car, said, "stand up", I
did so, and he handcuffed me!!! Seems as though the tag similar to mine
was a wanted felon, so it was a felony stop for him. He ran the tag
number again because I didn't fit the description, plus me telling him
I'm not a criminal, and let me go, of course.

It is typical that you start out with an assertion and then prove it
wrong.

You started with a guy involved in a hit and run accident properly
seeing and remembering a tag number of a car speeding away, then you
give an example of a cop who couldn't even get it right when he was
stopped behind you. ... and he is supposed to be a trained
professional doing his job calmly, not an untrained person who was
just in a car accident.

We all know the only purpose of license plates is to generate bucks for
the state, right, Greg?

Certainly in the states that tack on a huge excise tax every year.
It can be almost $600 a year in Indiana (one year old $42,000 car)

I already said, I think tags should be issued by insurance companies.
No insurance, no tag. That is far more relevant for most victims of
bad drivers than the tax stamp they have become. You would know
immediately which insurance company you should be calling and the cops
could more easily identify uninsured motorists.
The current DMV records are dreadfully inadequate for that. The
insurance company has no easy way to get the record updated when a
person drops or simply fails to pay their insurance. If it was
controlled by the insurance company, the tag would be made invalid in
the cops computer immediately.

I suspect we will all have transponders in our cars soon anyway and
the whole tag thing will be an anachronism. The cops will have the id
if every car and likely driver they get close to popping up on their
computer. They already have tag scanners that do that on the fender
but it is somewhat flawed by the artistic designs if the tags.

Here insurance proof is electronic. No insurance, no tag, don't even
have to show a paper copy. Insurance lapses, tag is deemed invalid, LEO
runs the tag, finds out that uninsured and therefore tag is invalid, go
to jail, car towed.

Not in California. Not any room in jail anyway. Besides, insurance seems
to be on a less than yearly payment cycle and tags are yearly.

wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:46:03 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

iBoaterer wrote:

Here insurance proof is electronic. No insurance, no tag, don't even
have to show a paper copy. Insurance lapses, tag is deemed invalid, LEO
runs the tag, finds out that uninsured and therefore tag is invalid, go
to jail, car towed.

Not in California. Not any room in jail anyway. Besides, insurance seems
to be on a less than yearly payment cycle and tags are yearly.

Yeah Kevin really seems to believe the cops spend all their day trying
to catch uninsured motorists.

OTOH if the tags were issued by the insurance company, they would
simply send a minimum wage goon over to repossess the tag if you let
your insurance lapse. It would still belong to them.

Actually tags are a problem in this state. People take a razor blade and
peel off a valid sticker and place it on their car. Looks like car is
registered. Other odd thing is costs more for a replacement sticker than
for replacement plates with sticker. Learned that when getting replacement
boat trailer (boating related post) and the guy next to me is getting a
replacement sticker. And he is paying a couple bucks more.

wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:46:03 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

iBoaterer wrote:

Here insurance proof is electronic. No insurance, no tag, don't even
have to show a paper copy. Insurance lapses, tag is deemed invalid, LEO
runs the tag, finds out that uninsured and therefore tag is invalid, go
to jail, car towed.

Not in California. Not any room in jail anyway. Besides, insurance seems
to be on a less than yearly payment cycle and tags are yearly.

Yeah Kevin really seems to believe the cops spend all their day trying
to catch uninsured motorists.

OTOH if the tags were issued by the insurance company, they would
simply send a minimum wage goon over to repossess the tag if you let
your insurance lapse. It would still belong to them.

Actually they should impound the car. Who needs insurance? Not the poor.
Legally they are supposed to have it to drive, but with no assets and no
jail room, as well as who is going to take care of the family while in
jail. They do not need it as they have no assets to protect. My wife was
in an accident yesterday. Stop light and a lady in a rental Chevy Tahoe
hit the car in back driving that car in to the wife's. Wiped out the
plastic bumper. I asked the insurance guy who came by to get an estimate
of the damage, about whose insurance actually covered the damage, if the
first car had none. He said both our and the guy behinds uninsured
motorist coverage would be the payee. Luckily my wife only had a small
sore spot on her head where it hit the headrest. The insurance situation
is a major problem. If wife hit someone who is uninsured, they collect in
to the millions. I carry a $2,000,000 umbrella policy as well as car
insurance. The uninsured hits my wife and does the same injuries, and my
insurance has to cover the loss. No pain and suffering, lost wages, etc.
make it so you can only collect as much money as you carry insurance for.
Minimum insurance in this state is $35,000 liability and about $15k
property damage.

On Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:30:37 UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:46:03 -0600, Califbill

wrote:



iBoaterer wrote:



Here insurance proof is electronic. No insurance, no tag, don't even

have to show a paper copy. Insurance lapses, tag is deemed invalid, LEO

runs the tag, finds out that uninsured and therefore tag is invalid, go

to jail, car towed.



Not in California. Not any room in jail anyway. Besides, insurance seems

to be on a less than yearly payment cycle and tags are yearly.



Yeah Kevin really seems to believe the cops spend all their day trying

to catch uninsured motorists.



OTOH if the tags were issued by the insurance company, they would

simply send a minimum wage goon over to repossess the tag if you let

your insurance lapse. It would still belong to them.



Actually they should impound the car. Who needs insurance? Not the poor.

Legally they are supposed to have it to drive, but with no assets and no

jail room, as well as who is going to take care of the family while in

jail. They do not need it as they have no assets to protect. My wife was

in an accident yesterday. Stop light and a lady in a rental Chevy Tahoe

hit the car in back driving that car in to the wife's. Wiped out the

plastic bumper. I asked the insurance guy who came by to get an estimate

of the damage, about whose insurance actually covered the damage, if the

first car had none. He said both our and the guy behinds uninsured

motorist coverage would be the payee. Luckily my wife only had a small

sore spot on her head where it hit the headrest. The insurance situation

is a major problem. If wife hit someone who is uninsured, they collect in

to the millions. I carry a $2,000,000 umbrella policy as well as car

insurance. The uninsured hits my wife and does the same injuries, and my

insurance has to cover the loss. No pain and suffering, lost wages, etc.

make it so you can only collect as much money as you carry insurance for.

Minimum insurance in this state is $35,000 liability and about $15k

property damage.


$35K??
Man, we had that requirement when I was in high school back in the '60s.
It's been at least 100K minimum for a long time now but everyone carries at least one million PLPD.

On 11/19/2013 1:51 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 11:34:08 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:57:20 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...


I suspect we will all have transponders in our cars soon anyway and
the whole tag thing will be an anachronism. The cops will have the id
if every car and likely driver they get close to popping up on their
computer. They already have tag scanners that do that on the fender
but it is somewhat flawed by the artistic designs if the tags.

Here insurance proof is electronic. No insurance, no tag, don't even
have to show a paper copy. Insurance lapses, tag is deemed invalid, LEO
runs the tag, finds out that uninsured and therefore tag is invalid, go
to jail, car towed.

Cite?

I know that may be what the law says but I bet it doesn't happen.

To hell it doesn't! Here you go, check it out. Second row down, far
right. Make sure you have the date as 11/18/2013. Then fifth row, fifth
from the left. ****, I've lived here many many years, yet you act like
you know more about the laws and the LEO's actions regarding them than I
do! It's automatic, no insurance, tag shows as expired immediately.

http://www.gwinnettmugs.com/


Wow, you're right close to Lake Lanier, Loogy. How's the water level there now. Are you still
keeping a boat there, or are you boatless now?

Gwinnet County, GA. Must be a nice place to live, if all those mug shots are indicative of the
population.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



Wonder which one is kevin?