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On 9/2/2013 11:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 16:18:37 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

NIMBY
Would you want a 150 MPH train running by your house?

It's already there on the whole frekin' shoreline... they got the land,
it's not about land...

Where is that?

Are you saying they are going to condemn all of those Sandy damaged
properties and build a railroad? (where the next hurricane will
destroy it)
That sounds like our government.

Don't understand your question... There is already a railroad there...
Right on the shoreline.... all the way from Stonington to Grenwich....

JustWaitAFrekinMinute

On 9/3/2013 10:28 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 05:46:06 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 9/2/2013 11:26 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 16:18:37 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

NIMBY
Would you want a 150 MPH train running by your house?

It's already there on the whole frekin' shoreline... they got the land,
it's not about land...

Where is that?

Are you saying they are going to condemn all of those Sandy damaged
properties and build a railroad? (where the next hurricane will
destroy it)
That sounds like our government.

Don't understand your question... There is already a railroad there...
Right on the shoreline.... all the way from Stonington to Grenwich....

What is it used for now and how will they replace that line if they
put in high speed rail?

You don't run 280,000 pound freight cars on the same track you run a
150 MPH train.
Railroads are in no big hurry to get rid of freight, that actually
makes money to put in a money losing passenger service.

It's mostly a passenger service... they already have some high speed
locomotives too, but it's still not the right tool for moving folks
around here...

F.O.A.D.

On 9/2/13 11:11 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 09:38:55 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Japan Railway Comp

Once you get away from the Boston - DC corridor, there are not many
places where people would ride a train. Even there, if you are not
spending your visit in the city center, you need a car.
We are not Japan nor Europe.
The only place with a similar population density is the NE megopolis
and they have a train

Heard that one a million times, too. Been on high speed trains in
Europe, from Geneva to Paris, about 350 miles, train was full but
comfortable, with some stops. Distances that can be duplicated between
American city pairs, and much, much better than driving a car or flying.

In this country, we for the most part gave up on rail public
transportation development after WW II.

Hank©[_3_]

On 9/2/2013 11:23 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/2/13 11:11 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 09:38:55 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Japan Railway Comp

Once you get away from the Boston - DC corridor, there are not many
places where people would ride a train. Even there, if you are not
spending your visit in the city center, you need a car.
We are not Japan nor Europe.
The only place with a similar population density is the NE megopolis
and they have a train

Heard that one a million times, too. Been on high speed trains in
Europe, from Geneva to Paris, about 350 miles, train was full but
comfortable, with some stops. Distances that can be duplicated between
American city pairs, and much, much better than driving a car or flying.

In this country, we for the most part gave up on rail public
transportation development after WW II.

The reason is that we couldn't find a way to get you to Geneva or Paris
by rail.

iBoaterer[_3_]

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:23:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/2/13 11:11 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 09:38:55 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Japan Railway Comp

Once you get away from the Boston - DC corridor, there are not many
places where people would ride a train. Even there, if you are not
spending your visit in the city center, you need a car.
We are not Japan nor Europe.
The only place with a similar population density is the NE megopolis
and they have a train

Heard that one a million times, too. Been on high speed trains in
Europe, from Geneva to Paris, about 350 miles, train was full but
comfortable, with some stops. Distances that can be duplicated between
American city pairs, and much, much better than driving a car or flying.

In this country, we for the most part gave up on rail public
transportation development after WW II.

We discovered air travel.

It requires a minuscule amount of real estate, the noise problems are
very isolated and planes are much faster.

No, for intermediate distances, air is slower. You have to get through
the airport, wait, delay, wait, get on board, wait possibly an hour to
take off, land, etc. etc. For my job, I've found that anything that can
be driven in four hours or less is quicker by car.

iBoaterer[_3_]

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 12:36:52 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:23:19 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 9/2/13 11:11 AM, wrote:

In this country, we for the most part gave up on rail public
transportation development after WW II.

We discovered air travel.

It requires a minuscule amount of real estate, the noise problems are
very isolated and planes are much faster.

No, for intermediate distances, air is slower. You have to get through
the airport, wait, delay, wait, get on board, wait possibly an hour to
take off, land, etc. etc. For my job, I've found that anything that can
be driven in four hours or less is quicker by car.

Do you think a train station is any quicker? Wait until you have a 2
hour TSA check point delay there too.

Yes, have you ever travelled via high speed rail in Europe? It's very
efficient.

The only reason train stations seem quick these days is there are not
that many people boarding and security is virtually non-existant.

See above.

Most train passengers are commuters, no luggage and relatively few
kids.

Horse****!

iBoaterer[_3_]

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 14:24:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Do you think a train station is any quicker? Wait until you have a 2
hour TSA check point delay there too.

Yes, have you ever travelled via high speed rail in Europe? It's very
efficient.

This is not Europe

The only reason train stations seem quick these days is there are not
that many people boarding and security is virtually non-existant.

See above.

Still not europe

I know! Unlike Europe, a lot of people in the U.S. are afraid of change
and innovation for some reason.

Most train passengers are commuters, no luggage and relatively few
kids.

Horse****!

Most rail passengers are on commuter trains (by number). That is how
places like Penn Station can rack up those huge numbers.
Do you really need me to get the intracity Amtrac stats?

And Amtrak would have WHAT to do with with statistics involving high
speed rail between major cities? Again, take a look at Europe.

iBoaterer[_3_]

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:44:45 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 14:24:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

Do you think a train station is any quicker? Wait until you have a 2
hour TSA check point delay there too.

Yes, have you ever travelled via high speed rail in Europe? It's very
efficient.

This is not Europe

The only reason train stations seem quick these days is there are not
that many people boarding and security is virtually non-existant.

See above.

Still not europe

I know! Unlike Europe, a lot of people in the U.S. are afraid of change
and innovation for some reason.

Most train passengers are commuters, no luggage and relatively few
kids.

Horse****!

Most rail passengers are on commuter trains (by number). That is how
places like Penn Station can rack up those huge numbers.
Do you really need me to get the intracity Amtrac stats?

And Amtrak would have WHAT to do with with statistics involving high
speed rail between major cities? Again, take a look at Europe.

This is not Europe, Japan either

True, a lot of people here are backwards thinking instead of forward.

Wayne.B

On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:48:18 -0400, wrote:

In this country, we for the most part gave up on rail public
transportation development after WW II.

We discovered air travel.

===

And the interstate highway system, along with comfortable, air
conditioned cars.

JustWaitAFrekinMinute

On 9/2/2013 1:05 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:48:18 -0400, wrote:

In this country, we for the most part gave up on rail public
transportation development after WW II.

We discovered air travel.

===

And the interstate highway system, along with comfortable, air
conditioned cars.

And the fact that most of us couldn't conduct our everyday lives on
public transport....

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