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On 5/22/2013 9:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 5/22/13 9:23 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Um, ok. either way. My point stands. Kids don't need three hours of homework in the fourth grade, and in too many families, it won't/can't get done anyway.... If they would stick to readin' writin' and 'rithmetic, instead of political and social indoctrination, they can get it done in the allotted time period. This is a different world, the schools need to adjust too... Political indoctrination? Did your kids go to public school at a gulag? Three hours of homework in the fourth grade? Are you on drugs? ---------------------------------------------------- I don't know what the homework load is specifically in today's public schools but both my daughter and my older son who both have kids in school have commented that the homework load is incredibly high, even at the grade school level .... significantly higher than what I remember them as kids having. I think the increased homework load on kids in the grade school levels is a direct result of the Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment System (MCAS) system that was introduced in 1993. It's still controversial because it evaluates school systems and the teachers as well as the academic achievement of the students and some people feel it puts unnecessary pressure on the kids at too early of an age. As for me, I don't really remember much of grammar school. My recollection of high school (back in the dark ages) is similar to Harry's .... about 2, sometimes even 3 hours a night, depending on the course load. Sure, that's about right.. 5 classes, 40 hours of homework for each class, 90 day semester.... Sure, in high school that's fine and probably about right. I spend almost every evening with parents of elementary and middle school students who are getting that amount of homework too, and there are a lot of them that find it very hard to spend that much time each evening doing homework for kids who could learn the basics of elementary and middle school, during the school day... |
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On 5/22/2013 10:03 PM, Eisboch wrote:
BTW, just so you know .... I never had two extra nickels to rub together until much later in my life .... like over 53 years old. I was not raised, nor did I live in a "privileged" economic environment. Don't doubt that for a minute... |
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"Wayne B" wrote in message ... ============ Nothing wrong with sounding like Bill Cosby in my opinion. Bill is a smart guy with a PhD if my memory is correct. Lack of parental commitment to education is not just a racial issue however. It cuts across a broad spectrum of sub groups and reaches well up into the middle class in some cases. They are all dooming their children to mediocrity at best and will be the first to cry foul when an asian kid with highly committed parents gets into a better college. ---------------------------------- It's ironic that you mention Bill Cosby because I was just reading about him the other day. He has a very interesting educational background. He actually failed 10th grade in high school and dropped out. He later earned an equivalency HS diploma via a correspondence course program. He attended Temple University but left before obtaining a degree. Went on to his acting and stand up comedy career. In the 70's he went back to school at the University of Massachusetts under a special graduate degree program and earned a MA without benefit of having a Bachelor's Degree. He then obtained his PhD, again from the University of Massachusetts. It was after he earned the PhD that Temple University awarded him a Bachelor's for "life experience". I had always thought he was awarded a honorary PhD. Nope. He earned it. His Bachelor's degree (awarded last) was the honorary one. |
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In article , says... On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter schools erodes the funds available for public schools. === Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process. When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities, the parents are inevitably to blame. You bet! Parents use the school as a day care and nothing else. Head Start has proved to have no benefit to the child because by the time they are in 3rd grade any perceived gain from Head Start is long gone. Head Start give low-income parents the abilty to have the public provide baby sitting services cheaply and it gives the government flunkies time to mold the children in their images. |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 5/22/13 9:23 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: Um, ok. either way. My point stands. Kids don't need three hours of homework in the fourth grade, and in too many families, it won't/can't get done anyway.... If they would stick to readin' writin' and 'rithmetic, instead of political and social indoctrination, they can get it done in the allotted time period. This is a different world, the schools need to adjust too... Political indoctrination? Did your kids go to public school at a gulag? Three hours of homework in the fourth grade? Are you on drugs? My daughters were told by their teachers in public school that if they used the NRA as a source for anything relating to guns and gun control they would be failed. |
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On 5/23/2013 7:08 AM, BAR wrote:
In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter schools erodes the funds available for public schools. === Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process. When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities, the parents are inevitably to blame. You bet! Parents use the school as a day care and nothing else. Head Start has proved to have no benefit to the child because by the time they are in 3rd grade any perceived gain from Head Start is long gone. Head Start give low-income parents the abilty to have the public provide baby sitting services cheaply and it gives the government flunkies time to mold the children in their images. Yup, got that right... |
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:13:26 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote: it gives the government flunkies time to mold the children in their images. Yup, got that right... === That's nonsense. |
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On 5/23/2013 10:07 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:13:26 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: it gives the government flunkies time to mold the children in their images. Yup, got that right... === That's nonsense. When was the last time you had a child in a public school system? |
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JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/23/2013 7:08 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter schools erodes the funds available for public schools. === Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process. When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities, the parents are inevitably to blame. You bet! Parents use the school as a day care and nothing else. Head Start has proved to have no benefit to the child because by the time they are in 3rd grade any perceived gain from Head Start is long gone. Head Start give low-income parents the abilty to have the public provide baby sitting services cheaply and it gives the government flunkies time to mold the children in their images. Yup, got that right... Nice to hear from the highly uneducated posters on educational topics. :) |
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