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On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!

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On May 22, 10:05*am, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 5/22/13 8:30 AM, Tim wrote:

On May 19, 6:45 am, Hank© wrote:

Another *Secular Chicago thug. Only this one shoots from the lip.

This one shuts down schools...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/s...ion-chicagobre...

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

Nothing in the article said a thing about 'Bush' or "charter schools"
but it did say this, if you had read the article-

"Fueling union anger over school closings in Chicago is the expansion
of publicly funded but mostly non-unionized charter schools. The
number of charter schools has risen even as neighborhood public
schools are closed."

Harry, why aren't you protesting the school closings with your
fraternal union brotherhood? I take it you're really not for
education?

?;^ )

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On May 22, 12:11*pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I've read a lot of reports about charter schools. I'm not impressed for
a lot of reasons, including the facts that they tend to cherry pick
their students, they don't have to deal with "difficult" students, there
have been interesting shenanigans with standardized testing, they many
times are church-related, and they suck resources away from the public
school

I don't know about charter schools, but the parochial schools in my
area don't receive a dime from the govt. The parents pay the tuition
fees.

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On May 22, 1:15*pm, iBoaterer wrote:


You bet! Parents use the school as a day care and nothing else.

Sad, but true in a lot of cases. And if the kid is a problem at
school, it's always someone else's fault...

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On 5/22/2013 1:47 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.


I just heard a report that 35 Chicago public schools will be closed.

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On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



..... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

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On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private
charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate
from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma is
still in effect?

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"Tim" wrote in message
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On May 22, 12:11 pm, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I've read a lot of reports about charter schools. I'm not impressed
for
a lot of reasons, including the facts that they tend to cherry pick
their students, they don't have to deal with "difficult" students,
there
have been interesting shenanigans with standardized testing, they
many
times are church-related, and they suck resources away from the
public
school

I don't know about charter schools, but the parochial schools in my
area don't receive a dime from the govt. The parents pay the tuition
fees.

-------------------------------------------

Our youngest went to a parochial high school.
We paid the tuition for his school but also paid taxes to support the
public school system.

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On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do
homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40
years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home
town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town
is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done.
At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody
gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

--------------------------------

I am not exactly sure what you are implying. It sounds like you are
saying that your mom helped institute a policy that all but guarantees
a HS diploma, regardless of academic achievement or qualification.
Is that what you are saying?

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On 5/22/2013 6:54 PM, Hank© wrote:
On 5/22/2013 1:47 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.


I just heard a report that 35 Chicago public schools will be closed.

I heard 50...