One of the funniest threads ever...
 

On 5/22/13 9:23 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 9:12 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/22/2013 7:33 PM, Eisboch wrote:




On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

--------------------------------

I am not exactly sure what you are implying. It sounds like you are
saying that your mom helped institute a policy that all but guarantees a
HS diploma, regardless of academic achievement or qualification. Is that
what you are saying?



Wow, I think you are channeling loogie but I will spell it out for you.
Schools can in fact teach the students without 40 plus hours of homework
a semester. Our system has been doing that for over 50 years and our
system is constantly among the highest rated educations in the state...

-------------------------------------------------

You've changed your wording. First it was " our town is a high rated
system when it comes to diplomas..."

Now it's " our system is constantly among the highest rated educations
in the state..."

Thanks for the clarification of quality over quantity.



Um, ok. either way. My point stands. Kids don't need three hours of
homework in the fourth grade, and in too many families, it won't/can't
get done anyway.... If they would stick to readin' writin' and
'rithmetic, instead of political and social indoctrination, they can get
it done in the allotted time period. This is a different world, the
schools need to adjust too...


Political indoctrination? Did your kids go to public school at a gulag?
Three hours of homework in the fourth grade? Are you on drugs?

It's funny that you are commenting on ways to improve the public
education system. How did you come to these ideas of yours?

One of the funniest threads ever...
 

On 5/22/2013 9:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/22/2013 7:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private
charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too
much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families
and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or
dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate
from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma is
still in effect?

At least I have a diploma... It's sitting right here in front of me on
the wall. Did you ever earn one?

----------------------------------

LOL! (Sorry). I think you are the first person I've ever heard of
that has his high school diploma on display on a wall.



Bull****.. My mom put it up there some 30 years ago along with a few
trophies and other objects of my childhood? That might be forign to you,
but my mom was pretty proud of me, I do call bull**** that you couldn't
deduce that or something similar all by yourself though. snerk

I bet you have some momemtos on your wall somewhere of things in your
life you are proud of, I bet your mom did too.. Sorry if your "things"
are better than mine... you don't even see... oh forget it.. LOL! Hope
you never do...

One of the funniest threads ever...
 

On 5/22/2013 9:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 8:54 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 7:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private
charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too
much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families
and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or
dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate
from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma is
still in effect?

At least I have a diploma... It's sitting right here in front of me on
the wall. Did you ever earn one?



Three, although I have no idea where my high school diploma is. My
mother had it, but when she moved to Florida, I'm not sure what happened
to it. I do have a bachelor of arts and master of arts degree. My wife
has a bachelor of science, a master of science, and a Ph.D.

Yes, and a Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat, pictures of owls, three
doctorates, a fireboat welcome to NYC, cars, conquests, money.... We
know you have it all but out of the two of us, I am the only one who can
prove any of it.... The facts say you have failed at two businesses and
gone bankrupt twice (that we know of). So either way, even if you do
have a HS diploma, it has done you no more good than mine did me...

One of the funniest threads ever...
 

On 5/22/2013 9:35 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 9:23 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 9:12 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/22/2013 7:33 PM, Eisboch wrote:




On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our
town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be
done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody
gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

--------------------------------

I am not exactly sure what you are implying. It sounds like you are
saying that your mom helped institute a policy that all but
guarantees a
HS diploma, regardless of academic achievement or qualification. Is
that
what you are saying?



Wow, I think you are channeling loogie but I will spell it out for you.
Schools can in fact teach the students without 40 plus hours of homework
a semester. Our system has been doing that for over 50 years and our
system is constantly among the highest rated educations in the state...

-------------------------------------------------

You've changed your wording. First it was " our town is a high rated
system when it comes to diplomas..."

Now it's " our system is constantly among the highest rated educations
in the state..."

Thanks for the clarification of quality over quantity.



Um, ok. either way. My point stands. Kids don't need three hours of
homework in the fourth grade, and in too many families, it won't/can't
get done anyway.... If they would stick to readin' writin' and
'rithmetic, instead of political and social indoctrination, they can get
it done in the allotted time period. This is a different world, the
schools need to adjust too...


Political indoctrination? Did your kids go to public school at a gulag?
Three hours of homework in the fourth grade? Are you on drugs?

You are uninformed, and not worth engaging...

It's funny that you are commenting on ways to improve the public
education system. How did you come to these ideas of yours?

See above...

One of the funniest threads ever...
 

On 5/22/13 9:40 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 9:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/22/2013 7:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private
charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too
much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families
and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or
dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate
from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma is
still in effect?

At least I have a diploma... It's sitting right here in front of me on
the wall. Did you ever earn one?

----------------------------------

LOL! (Sorry). I think you are the first person I've ever heard of
that has his high school diploma on display on a wall.



Bull****.. My mom put it up there some 30 years ago along with a few
trophies and other objects of my childhood? That might be forign to you,
but my mom was pretty proud of me, I do call bull**** that you couldn't
deduce that or something similar all by yourself though. snerk

I bet you have some momemtos on your wall somewhere of things in your
life you are proud of, I bet your mom did too.. Sorry if your "things"
are better than mine... you don't even see... oh forget it.. LOL! Hope
you never do...


Did she save that sweatshirt that said *High School* ?

http://www.80stees.com/images/produc...Shirt-link.jpg

One of the funniest threads ever...
 

On 5/22/13 9:43 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 9:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 8:54 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 7:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private
charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top
priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too
much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families
and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to
be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or
dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate
from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our
town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be
done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody
gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma is
still in effect?

At least I have a diploma... It's sitting right here in front of me on
the wall. Did you ever earn one?



Three, although I have no idea where my high school diploma is. My
mother had it, but when she moved to Florida, I'm not sure what happened
to it. I do have a bachelor of arts and master of arts degree. My wife
has a bachelor of science, a master of science, and a Ph.D.

Yes, and a Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat, pictures of owls, three
doctorates, a fireboat welcome to NYC, cars, conquests, money.... We
know you have it all but out of the two of us, I am the only one who can
prove any of it.... The facts say you have failed at two businesses and
gone bankrupt twice (that we know of). So either way, even if you do
have a HS diploma, it has done you no more good than mine did me...


Funny stuff from a moron.

One of the funniest threads ever...
 

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 5/22/13 9:23 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

Um, ok. either way. My point stands. Kids don't need three hours of
homework in the fourth grade, and in too many families, it
won't/can't
get done anyway.... If they would stick to readin' writin' and
'rithmetic, instead of political and social indoctrination, they can
get
it done in the allotted time period. This is a different world, the
schools need to adjust too...


Political indoctrination? Did your kids go to public school at a
gulag?
Three hours of homework in the fourth grade? Are you on drugs?

----------------------------------------------------

I don't know what the homework load is specifically in today's public
schools but both my daughter and my older son who both have kids in
school have commented that the homework load is incredibly high, even
at the grade school level .... significantly higher than what I
remember them as kids having.
I think the increased homework load on kids in the grade school levels
is a direct result of the Massachusetts Comprehensive Assessment
System (MCAS) system that was introduced in 1993. It's still
controversial because it evaluates school systems and the teachers as
well as the academic achievement of the students and some people feel
it puts unnecessary pressure on the kids at too early of an age.

As for me, I don't really remember much of grammar school. My
recollection of high school (back in the dark ages) is similar to
Harry's .... about 2, sometimes even 3 hours a night, depending on the
course load.

One of the funniest threads ever...
 

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/22/2013 9:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message
...

On 5/22/2013 7:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D."

wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on
private
charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They
are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top
priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend
too
much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the
families
and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used
to be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a
mom or
dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we
give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think
graduate
from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do
homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40
years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home
town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our
town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be
done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody
gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma
is
still in effect?

At least I have a diploma... It's sitting right here in front of me
on
the wall. Did you ever earn one?

----------------------------------

LOL! (Sorry). I think you are the first person I've ever heard
of
that has his high school diploma on display on a wall.



Bull****.. My mom put it up there some 30 years ago along with a few
trophies and other objects of my childhood? That might be forign to
you,
but my mom was pretty proud of me, I do call bull**** that you
couldn't
deduce that or something similar all by yourself though. snerk

I bet you have some momemtos on your wall somewhere of things in your
life you are proud of, I bet your mom did too.. Sorry if your "things"
are better than mine... you don't even see... oh forget it.. LOL! Hope
you never do...

---------------------------------------------

Nope. My parents were just grateful that I made it through high
school.

Didn't mean to offend or make fun. It just struck my funny bone.
I've never seen or heard of anyone's HS diploma displayed on a wall.
Yours is the first. Nothing wrong with it. I think most people's
diplomas are either long lost or growing mold in a trunk in the
basement.

BTW, just so you know .... I never had two extra nickels to rub
together until much later in my life .... like over 53 years old. I
was not raised, nor did I live in a "privileged" economic environment.

One of the funniest threads ever...
 

On 5/22/2013 9:23 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 9:03 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 7:33 PM, Eisboch wrote:




On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:


.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

--------------------------------

I am not exactly sure what you are implying. It sounds like you are
saying that your mom helped institute a policy that all but guarantees a
HS diploma, regardless of academic achievement or qualification. Is that
what you are saying?



Wow, I think you are channeling loogie but I will spell it out for you.
Schools can in fact teach the students without 40 plus hours of homework
a semester. Our system has been doing that for over 50 years and our
system is constantly among the highest rated educations in the state...


per class, per semester... the rest of your bull**** isn't worth
addressing...

One of the funniest threads ever...
 

On 5/22/2013 9:48 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 9:43 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 9:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 8:54 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 7:24 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/22/13 7:18 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private
charter
schools erodes the funds available for public schools.

===

Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are
failing from lack of parental committment to the educational
process.
When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top
priorities,
the parents are inevitably to blame.

A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have
functioning families.


A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too
much
time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families
and
kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to
be,
our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a
mom or
dad
at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we
give
them, they could do a lot more.

Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate
from a decent program in college
without homework?

And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done.

John H.


In college no problem, and even in public schools.....



.... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do
homework"
anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years
ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home
town
to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a
half to
one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our
town is
a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be
done. At
the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody
gets
a voice, I will leave it at that.

So, the policy of generous social promotions that got you a diploma is
still in effect?

At least I have a diploma... It's sitting right here in front of me on
the wall. Did you ever earn one?



Three, although I have no idea where my high school diploma is. My
mother had it, but when she moved to Florida, I'm not sure what happened
to it. I do have a bachelor of arts and master of arts degree. My wife
has a bachelor of science, a master of science, and a Ph.D.

Yes, and a Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat, pictures of owls, three
doctorates, a fireboat welcome to NYC, cars, conquests, money.... We
know you have it all but out of the two of us, I am the only one who can
prove any of it.... The facts say you have failed at two businesses and
gone bankrupt twice (that we know of). So either way, even if you do
have a HS diploma, it has done you no more good than mine did me...


Funny stuff from a moron.

I agree, but it was even more funny when we read it all from you in your
own words..