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One of the funniest threads ever...
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One of the funniest threads ever...
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One of the funniest threads ever...
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 5/24/2013 10:07 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 5/24/13 10:05 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/24/2013 7:52 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:13:26 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: it gives the government flunkies time to mold the children in their images. Yup, got that right... === That's nonsense. You should listen to a high schooler and see what the teachers are pushing in schools. Most of the high school students are smart enough to figure out when the teacher is campaigning and when the teacher is actually teaching. Three, four and five year old kids are taught to regurgitate what they are told. Stop it BAR... They all know way more about this than you and I do... LOL! Comments about education from two guys who barely completed high school. Wonderful. And a comment from you who didn't even graduate high school... --------------------------------------- I've finally come to the conclusion that the decline of the once proud "rec.boats" newsgroup is beyond repair. Any attempt to have a serious, civil conversation about *any* subject .... boating or not ..... results in name calling, finger pointing, blame assessment or the vilification of the poster within two or three responses. Virtually everyone is to blame, including me. Accordingly, I may as well adjust to the new culture of the group. When in Rome ...... |
One of the funniest threads ever...
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One of the funniest threads ever...
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says... On 5/24/13 10:05 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/24/2013 7:52 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:13:26 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: it gives the government flunkies time to mold the children in their images. Yup, got that right... === That's nonsense. You should listen to a high schooler and see what the teachers are pushing in schools. Most of the high school students are smart enough to figure out when the teacher is campaigning and when the teacher is actually teaching. Three, four and five year old kids are taught to regurgitate what they are told. Stop it BAR... They all know way more about this than you and I do... LOL! Comments about education from two guys who barely completed high school. Wonderful. You've made it clear here that you don't like education or those who are educated. Probably from jealousy. |
One of the funniest threads ever...
On 5/24/2013 10:03 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 5/24/2013 7:08 AM, Eisboch wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 5/24/2013 6:08 AM, John H wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013 19:18:35 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter schools erodes the funds available for public schools. === Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process. When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities, the parents are inevitably to blame. A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have functioning families. A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be, our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give them, they could do a lot more. Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate from a decent program in college without homework? And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done. John H. In college no problem, and even in public schools..... .... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework" anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a half to one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets a voice, I will leave it at that. 'SOME' families are not constructed to do homework. That's one reason most teachers stay after school to help kids with their homework. Most families, again in my experience, are properly constructed and ensure their kids do their homework. My daughters, with seven kids between them, are well able to construct their lives such that their kids do the homework. John H. Wow, aren't they special.. I am so glad they are the model for all parents out there... LOL! So happy all families have the time and schedule they do.... ---------------------------------------- Your expressions presented here sound more like an excuse than those of a philosophy. You need to relax... What makes you think he's not an accomplished relaxer? |
One of the funniest threads ever...
On 5/24/2013 10:49 AM, Eisboch wrote:
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 5/24/2013 10:07 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 5/24/13 10:05 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/24/2013 7:52 AM, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 23 May 2013 09:13:26 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: it gives the government flunkies time to mold the children in their images. Yup, got that right... === That's nonsense. You should listen to a high schooler and see what the teachers are pushing in schools. Most of the high school students are smart enough to figure out when the teacher is campaigning and when the teacher is actually teaching. Three, four and five year old kids are taught to regurgitate what they are told. Stop it BAR... They all know way more about this than you and I do... LOL! Comments about education from two guys who barely completed high school. Wonderful. And a comment from you who didn't even graduate high school... --------------------------------------- I've finally come to the conclusion that the decline of the once proud "rec.boats" newsgroup is beyond repair. Any attempt to have a serious, civil conversation about *any* subject .... boating or not ..... results in name calling, finger pointing, blame assessment or the vilification of the poster within two or three responses. Virtually everyone is to blame, including me. Accordingly, I may as well adjust to the new culture of the group. When in Rome ...... Going to beat em at their own game, eh? Good luck. ;-) |
One of the funniest threads ever...
On 5/24/2013 10:22 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/24/13 10:14 AM, wrote: On Fri, 24 May 2013 08:14:28 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Educators certainly don't seem to be destitute as they would have you believe. Gee, you and Scotty both think education is a "scam"...... Students graduating with a degree that Harry admits does not convey any job skills and comes with a big 5 figure debt think it was a scam. There is a law school being sued by it's students as we speak over that exact issue. Harry "admits"? What I said was that I didn't think the primary purpose of a college education was to get a job. I think a good college education helps a student learn how to think critically and abstractly, and how to adapt one's self to the changing circumstances life presents. Thinking critically is certainly a job skill, at least in the world I occupy in earning a living. If I wanted to learn a trade, I would have gone to a trade school. In fact, I did attend trade school classes part-time because I had an opportunity to learn a skill I wanted to have, but not because I really wanted to work at that trade. Working isn't your strong suit. Could well be the cause of your financial difficulties. ;-) |
One of the funniest threads ever...
On 5/24/2013 11:34 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 5/24/2013 10:03 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/24/2013 7:08 AM, Eisboch wrote: "JustWaitAFrekinMinute" wrote in message ... On 5/24/2013 6:08 AM, John H wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013 19:18:35 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/22/2013 6:02 PM, John H wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013 15:14:36 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 5/22/2013 2:52 PM, wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013 13:47:30 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013 11:05:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Years of the Bush Recession plus wasting public money on private charter schools erodes the funds available for public schools. === Public schools are not failing from lack of funding. They are failing from lack of parental committment to the educational process. When sports and student "self esteem" are a schools top priorities, the parents are inevitably to blame. A big part of the problem is the number of kids who do not have functioning families. A big part of the problem is teachers and districts that spend too much time preaching and not enough time teaching, expecting the families and kids to make up for it at home at night. It's not like it used to be, our names are not all Cleaver, and a lot of kids don't have a mom or dad at home at night to guide them. With the money and resources we give them, they could do a lot more. Homework is part of education. How many folks do you think graduate from a decent program in college without homework? And yes, parents should be making sure the work gets done. John H. In college no problem, and even in public schools..... .... thirty years ago... Families are not constructed to "do homework" anymore, it's just a fact of life. My mom realized that some 40 years ago and helped insititute unwritten policy that stands in my home town to this day and I rarely saw my girls come home with more than a half to one hour of work, and many times, none... At the same time, our town is a high rated system when it comes to diplomas... so, it can be done. At the same time they don't fool around with a lot of ****, everybody gets a voice, I will leave it at that. 'SOME' families are not constructed to do homework. That's one reason most teachers stay after school to help kids with their homework. Most families, again in my experience, are properly constructed and ensure their kids do their homework. My daughters, with seven kids between them, are well able to construct their lives such that their kids do the homework. John H. Wow, aren't they special.. I am so glad they are the model for all parents out there... LOL! So happy all families have the time and schedule they do.... ---------------------------------------- Your expressions presented here sound more like an excuse than those of a philosophy. You need to relax... What makes you think he's not an accomplished relaxer? The fact that he seems to be looking at this place from a loogie point of view lately... Take the "homework" thing. Although I didn't pull out my calculator before my initial comment, I think any reasonable person would understand that what I was saying was "there is no reason for elementary and middle school kids to come home with 3-4 hours of homework, two to three days a week". Now remember, rarely do kids get homework on Friday so we are putting it all into four nights. If an elementary kid has an hour or a half hour most nights, and then some projects (in some cases the parents are "required" to be involved in) is ok, but still most teaching should be done in School... The home time is for the values and education that parents want to give, that are not bothered with during the school day... |
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