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On 6/9/2013 9:42 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/9/13 9:37 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 6/9/13 9:32 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , earl3311
@hotmail.com says...

True North wrote:
What's with the name calling?
Some of us are trying to develop a more respectful newsgroup.
What's with the lack of quoting relevant text so others can follow the
thread? It's Usenet 101, bozo.

Gee, I wonder if Scotty and John will admonish this poster because of
the name calling.......



"earl" is another of the *permanent residents* of my bozo bin. No chance
of parole for the permanent residents, a possibility of parole for some
of the others in there.

"earl" changes the numbers after the "earl" part of his handle almost
every time he posts here, probably because he things that will help him
sneak out of the various bozo bins in which he resides. I know this
because when I check the filters I use here, I see "earl"s with a
plethora of number sets I see attached to that handle.

er, he thinks, not things.

What makes you thing we care about your assessments of other posters, oh
bald one.

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On 6/9/2013 11:30 AM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 9 June 2013 10:32:42 UTC-3, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , earl3311

@hotmail.com says...



True North wrote:

What's with the name calling?

Some of us are trying to develop a more respectful newsgroup.

What's with the lack of quoting relevant text so others can follow the

thread? It's Usenet 101, bozo.



Gee, I wonder if Scotty and John will admonish this poster because of

the name calling.......

Would be nice.
I've been "plonked" recently for a lot less than what 'Earl' spews whenever he darkens our doors.

Earl is a breath of fresh air compared to you and your sidekick.

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On Thu, 23 May 2013 18:09:07 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:


Cite that law. (SS card) I know I haven't missed mine, all my life.
The USCG never asked for it, nor did IBM, the state of Florida,
everyone I contracted with or any bank or financial institution I
dealt with.

SSA didn't even want to see it. Why do you need one?


Only document that ever held me up is a Birth Cert, I don't have one...

My birth certificate was the one issued by the hospital with my
footprint on it
When I got my Fl Drivers license they screwed with me about why it
wasn't an official DC public document. (raised seal etc)
I took off my shoe, held up my foot and said "see, it is me". The lady
laughed and stamped my application.

--------------------

My mother did not have a birth certificate. Born in a snow storm in Western
Nebraska, and doctor figured she would not survive and did not file the
paperwork. She showed him, died 5 weeks short of 96. But to get Social
Security, had to go to the 1920 Census paperwork to prove she was born in
1914.

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"John H" wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 18:05:37 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 23 May 2013 14:24:28 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 22 May 2013 21:31:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

LOL! (Sorry). I think you are the first person I've ever heard of
that has his high school diploma on display on a wall.



I don't know where my high school diploma is. I'm fairly certain my
mother "lost it" when she moved from New Haven to Florida. My college
diplomas are in a scrapbook in the house somewhere...never bothered to
get them framed and I don't recall looking at either of them for, oh,
40
years. :)

I am not sure I had my high school diploma a week after they gave it
to me
If anyone wants to see proof, check with the DC school system. Knowing
what I do about DC, they probably lost it too.

Same here, I don't think I've ever saw mine more than once or twice.

I have had a lot more use for my DD214 than my diploma.
In fact that was all I needed to get my Social Security.

Good thing, because I have not had a SS card since 1964 when I lost my
wallet in the Potomac river near Key Bridge. (canoeing to Three
Sisters at night)

I have mine, a second one. It's not easy to get a replacement, doubt I'd
do it again. BUT, isn't it law that you have to have one?


Cite that law. (SS card) I know I haven't missed mine, all my life.
The USCG never asked for it, nor did IBM, the state of Florida,
everyone I contracted with or any bank or financial institution I
dealt with.

SSA didn't even want to see it. Why do you need one?

Mine has sat in a desk drawer for about 51 years. I can't recall ever being
asked for it.

John H.
--

Hope you're having a great day!


I still have my original one, and carried it until I got the newer Medicare
one. Had to show it for several jobs over the years to prove the SS number.

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"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 24 May 2013 00:04:48 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

My daughter's father in law (a retired history professor) is that way
too but he always complains that he couldn't say much around the
campus, lest he be shunned.
He is also the biggest critic of the university scam I have heard.
He says universities are mostly focused on protecting professor jobs,
not preparing students for a job.
He still took the money tho. Now he is sailing the Indian river behind
Melbourne beach most days or up in his lake house near Oprah's house
in New Buffalo Michigan.

Educators certainly don't seem to be destitute as they would have you
believe.

I never thought a college's purpose was to prepare students for a job.

That does seem shocking to the graduates who find out their degree
just allows them to be the most interesting barista at Starbucks.
I guess they can hang that sheepskin on the wall of their parent's
basement, over their bed.


Gee, my degree has taken me further than I imagined. It's what you do
with it that counts.

I find it pretty funny that you and Scotty both think that education
isn't important.

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Depends on the degree.

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On 6/20/13 2:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 24 May 2013 00:04:48 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

My daughter's father in law (a retired history professor) is that way
too but he always complains that he couldn't say much around the
campus, lest he be shunned.
He is also the biggest critic of the university scam I have heard.
He says universities are mostly focused on protecting professor jobs,
not preparing students for a job.
He still took the money tho. Now he is sailing the Indian river behind
Melbourne beach most days or up in his lake house near Oprah's house
in New Buffalo Michigan.

Educators certainly don't seem to be destitute as they would have you
believe.

I never thought a college's purpose was to prepare students for a job.

That does seem shocking to the graduates who find out their degree
just allows them to be the most interesting barista at Starbucks.
I guess they can hang that sheepskin on the wall of their parent's
basement, over their bed.


Gee, my degree has taken me further than I imagined. It's what you do
with it that counts.

I find it pretty funny that you and Scotty both think that education
isn't important.

----------


Depends on the degree.



Here we go again.

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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/20/13 2:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 24 May 2013 00:04:48 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

My daughter's father in law (a retired history professor) is that way
too but he always complains that he couldn't say much around the
campus, lest he be shunned.
He is also the biggest critic of the university scam I have heard.
He says universities are mostly focused on protecting professor jobs,
not preparing students for a job.
He still took the money tho. Now he is sailing the Indian river behind
Melbourne beach most days or up in his lake house near Oprah's house
in New Buffalo Michigan.

Educators certainly don't seem to be destitute as they would have you
believe.

I never thought a college's purpose was to prepare students for a job.

That does seem shocking to the graduates who find out their degree
just allows them to be the most interesting barista at Starbucks.
I guess they can hang that sheepskin on the wall of their parent's
basement, over their bed.


Gee, my degree has taken me further than I imagined. It's what you do
with it that counts.

I find it pretty funny that you and Scotty both think that education
isn't important.

----------


Depends on the degree.



Here we go again.
--------------

I'll post a link later to the local newspapers report on a college website
as too what people made 5 years after graduation depending on degree. A
performing arts degree was about $15k I think.

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On 6/20/13 3:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/20/13 2:42 PM, Califbill wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
...

In article ,
says...

On 24 May 2013 00:04:48 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

wrote:

My daughter's father in law (a retired history professor) is that way
too but he always complains that he couldn't say much around the
campus, lest he be shunned.
He is also the biggest critic of the university scam I have heard.
He says universities are mostly focused on protecting professor jobs,
not preparing students for a job.
He still took the money tho. Now he is sailing the Indian river
behind
Melbourne beach most days or up in his lake house near Oprah's house
in New Buffalo Michigan.

Educators certainly don't seem to be destitute as they would have you
believe.

I never thought a college's purpose was to prepare students for a job.

That does seem shocking to the graduates who find out their degree
just allows them to be the most interesting barista at Starbucks.
I guess they can hang that sheepskin on the wall of their parent's
basement, over their bed.


Gee, my degree has taken me further than I imagined. It's what you do
with it that counts.

I find it pretty funny that you and Scotty both think that education
isn't important.

----------


Depends on the degree.



Here we go again.
--------------

I'll post a link later to the local newspapers report on a college
website as too what people made 5 years after graduation depending on
degree. A performing arts degree was about $15k I think.


You keep equating the value of liberal arts education only in terms of
what one can earn in a particular field or a particular degree.

I don't accept the premise. What is important is what they can
contribute to our society and to culture generally.

Mozart and Van Gogh died in abject poverty. Their contributions to
society and culture far outweigh their meager earnings. Teachers,
firemen, social workers and nurses are not typically high up there on
the monetary earnings scale, yet they are major contributors to what
makes our society tick.

Not everyone who goes to college is interesting in following a higher
education trade school path. When I was getting my B.A., I was offered
the "opportunity" to enroll in the journalism school. I turned it down
because I was sure there was nothing I could learn there that I couldn't
learn by being an English major. In fact, *I* was the one hired by the
major newspaper in the area in my junior year, a fact that really ****ed
off one of the professors at the journalism school.

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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/20/13 3:23 PM, Califbill wrote:


Depends on the degree.



Here we go again.
--------------

I'll post a link later to the local newspapers report on a college
website as too what people made 5 years after graduation depending
on
degree. A performing arts degree was about $15k I think.


You keep equating the value of liberal arts education only in terms of
what one can earn in a particular field or a particular degree.

I don't accept the premise. What is important is what they can
contribute to our society and to culture generally.

Mozart and Van Gogh died in abject poverty. Their contributions to
society and culture far outweigh their meager earnings. Teachers,
firemen, social workers and nurses are not typically high up there on
the monetary earnings scale, yet they are major contributors to what
makes our society tick.

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True, many of those professions are labors of love or passion. But I
think many who pursue them also tend to be more liberal in philosophy
and are receptive to government programs to assist in what they may
not be able to directly pay for themselves. It would be interesting
to see a breakdown of professional degrees by participation (and
support) of government entitlement programs. My guess is the average
person in the vocational, technical and engineering disciplines
receive less government benefits compared to the average "someone" in
the "arts" for example, simply because they don't qualify. In
addition, you certainly don't hear of many doctors or lawyers
participating in government entitlement programs.

These programs aren't free. Someone pays for them. Who do you think
pays for the bulk of them?

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On 6/20/13 4:28 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 6/20/13 3:23 PM, Califbill wrote:


Depends on the degree.



Here we go again.
--------------

I'll post a link later to the local newspapers report on a college
website as too what people made 5 years after graduation depending on
degree. A performing arts degree was about $15k I think.


You keep equating the value of liberal arts education only in terms of
what one can earn in a particular field or a particular degree.

I don't accept the premise. What is important is what they can
contribute to our society and to culture generally.

Mozart and Van Gogh died in abject poverty. Their contributions to
society and culture far outweigh their meager earnings. Teachers,
firemen, social workers and nurses are not typically high up there on
the monetary earnings scale, yet they are major contributors to what
makes our society tick.

----------------------------------------------

True, many of those professions are labors of love or passion. But I
think many who pursue them also tend to be more liberal in philosophy
and are receptive to government programs to assist in what they may not
be able to directly pay for themselves. It would be interesting to see
a breakdown of professional degrees by participation (and support) of
government entitlement programs. My guess is the average person in the
vocational, technical and engineering disciplines receive less
government benefits compared to the average "someone" in the "arts"
for example, simply because they don't qualify. In addition, you
certainly don't hear of many doctors or lawyers participating in
government entitlement programs.

These programs aren't free. Someone pays for them. Who do you think
pays for the bulk of them?







Doctors don't participate in government entitlement programs? What about
Medicaid and Medicare? :)

As for those vocational, technical and engineering grads? What
percentage of them end up working for at least a while on government
contracts during their careers?

Yeah, I know, they're not strictly government entitlement programs.

Who do you think pays for the bulk of those doctors' office visits, and
those ships, tanks, and airplanes?