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Gun control deal done
On 4/11/13 4:48 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:10:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 3:08 PM, True North wrote: The Latino neighbours you were degrading right here in this newsgroup. Remember the families with one too many cars for your liking? They probably moved...Herring probably picketed their house. They're still there. The county got 'em. Most of the junk is back in the house, the oil drums are no longer in the driveway, the lawn is mowed regularly, and they even repainted the house. Place looks pretty good now. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. How about the house of your Latino neighbors? |
Gun control deal done
On 4/11/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:22:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 3:14 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/11/2013 12:39 PM, J Herring wrote: On 11 Apr 2013 16:23:45 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:50:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 10:32 AM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:17:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 10:12 AM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:30:26 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 8:30 AM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:19:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. In article , says... "BAR" wrote in message . .. In article , says... On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:06:53 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Details at 11. Something is better than nothing! (I ****ing hope so anyway!) I must have missed the constitution amendment process? -------------------------------------- The Constitution says you have the right to bear arms and you do. The Constitution says we all have the right to keep and bear arms. ------------------------------------------------- Are you saying that right also extends to convicted felons, people with serious mental health issues, alcoholics and drug addicts? The Constitution does not exclude them. But then again, a convicted felon forfeited some of his rights. Those with serious mental health issues could easily be considered a danger to themselves and/or society. Alcoholics and drug addicts? How would that he controlled. I doubt if AA or NA are going to provide lists of members. And besides, members don't 'sign up' or register to be a member. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. I don't know what the regs are in a loose state like Virginia, but in Maryland if you are buying a firearm, you have to fill out a questionnaire for the state police on which you state under criminal penalties whether you are of legal age, whether you are engaging in a straw purchase, whether you've been convicted of a crime of violence, whether you've been convicted of a misdemeanor act of domestic violence, whether you are the respondent in a protective order, whether you've been committed to a mental institution, whether you are a habitual drunkard, et cetera. Say yes to any of 'em and your app is denied and you might get arrested. Anyone here a heavy drinker? Completion of the ATF Form 4473 is a requirement in Virginia. I would assume the same is true of Maryland, as it's a Federal form. But who knows? Maryland may have its own form which asks the same questions. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. Maryland has its own form. Two pages, one for the applicant, one for the dealer. Similar and duplicative in many areas of federal form. Remember, in Maryland, the state police get involved in your app to buy a pistol. Well, that explains it then. Now I know why Maryland is such a safe state in which to reside. Well, except for certain parts, that is. If I were walking through PG County or B'more at night, I'd damn sure consider that a 'special circumstance'! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. I know this will be difficult for a racist bigot like you to understand, Herring, but there are some beautiful, rural areas of PG County that are much nicer than where you live but where decent people do live and aren't particularly impacted by street crime. We dine at a couple of locally owned restaurants in PG County, and never feel any "fear." Harry, must you always resort to name-calling. Does your continuous reference to the MS-13 gangs overrunning Fairfax County not make you just as much a racist bigot? I've driven through PG County quite often. You're right, there are some pretty, rural areas there. But, if my car broke down at 2AM in one of those pretty, rural areas, I'd definitely consider that a special circumstance! We've been in Baltimore many fine days and evenings in all parts of the city, and have never been accosted or even felt like we were under a threat. A few weeks ago, while returning home from National Airport one evening, the Suitland Parkway was blocked because of an accident, and we had to detour to a part of DC/Maryland you would consider dangerous. I got a bit lost and stopped at a convenience store/gas station to get out and ask for directions. I said "hi" to the guys milling around and they said "hi" back. No sweat. I think your white man's culture of privilege is blinding you. You are so brave! What a man, Harry. No wonder Donnie is so enthralled! Yes, I've been to Baltimore also. There are some beautiful spots in that fine town. There are also some spots I would not want to find myself at 2AM. But then again, I'm not you. Actually, it's the continuous reporting of the crime in PG County and B'more that's blinding me. I'm guessing the special circumstances were a walk in your back yard where all the 'critters' and the owls live. Hell, I can understand your having a round chambered under those 'special circumstances'. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. It must be awful to be as afraid of people as you are. Well, I've never walked around with a round chambered because of 'special circumstances' - at least in this country anyway. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. LOL! What are laughing at, moron? He's medicated, remember, he's come full circle, and it will happen again when he gets off of his meds again. It starts with racist remarks, then lies about posters, then lies and nasty, vulgar low class things about poster's spouses and children, then he's the poor, poor victim of everyone's abuse, now he's delusional. It will start again in a few days, watch! Everyone should send PsyChoSnotty a pack of cigarettes. Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. PsychoSnotty gets really upset when you refer to him by his real name and blows up, and, besides, PsychoSnotty seems the perfect nick for him: he's psychotic and also a little snot. |
Gun control deal done
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:09:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/11/13 4:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/11/2013 2:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On 11 Apr 2013 17:07:35 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:53:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 11:39 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/11/13 8:30 AM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:19:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: The Constitution does not exclude them. But then again, a convicted felon forfeited some of his rights. Those with serious mental health issues could easily be considered a danger to themselves and/or society. Alcoholics and drug addicts? How would that he controlled. I doubt if AA or NA are going to provide lists of members. And besides, members don't 'sign up' or register to be a member. I don't know what the regs are in a loose state like Virginia, but in Maryland if you are buying a firearm, you have to fill out a questionnaire for the state police on which you state under criminal penalties whether you are of legal age, whether you are engaging in a straw purchase, whether you've been convicted of a crime of violence, whether you've been convicted of a misdemeanor act of domestic violence, whether you are the respondent in a protective order, whether you've been committed to a mental institution, whether you are a habitual drunkard, et cetera. Say yes to any of 'em and your app is denied and you might get arrested. Anyone here a heavy drinker? --------------------------------------------------------- Same here in MA. As I mentioned to John in another post habitual use of drugs and/or alcohol can be cause for denial of a permit, but also every time you buy a firearm from a dealer, a form similar to the one you described .... probably the same one .... must be filled out. It specifically asks about drug and alcohol abuse. I have a difficult time understanding why so many on the right so violently oppose just about anything that relates to throttling down gun violence. I don't accept the fact that "Americans are just plain violent and gun laws will never do anything to stop it." Actually, the reasons are the same as the ones used by those on the left who oppose just about ....etc. If you call something a fact, what is there to not accept about it? It is a fact that there are some crazy-assed folks out there who will kill people - with guns or not with guns. A majority of those on the right, including a majority of NRA members, agree with the background checks. Many of the other laws, such as the majority of the rules passed by Maryland, are simply stupid. They'd have done nothing to prevent the last child massacre. However, a janitor with a concealed carry permit could have prevented it. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. Mythical. The secret service and armed police could not prevent the near-assassination of Reagan. What would you expect from a janitor whose other job was to safeguard a large school full of kids. No one mentioned anything about the janitor having 'another job', only a permit to carry a concealed weapon. And, not necessarily a janitor. An armed guidance counselor could have done as well. Shoot the gunner before he shot up twenty kids. Using your analogy, why have *any* security at the schools or any type of gun control if in one instance it can be overcome? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. You make a lot of assumptions but ignore the issues. The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by police is 14.29 The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a civilian is 2.33 From the article he http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31...ge-statistics/ Have a happy day harry, please keep playing with your guns... Daily Anarchist? Oh, well...in that case. What, in the article, do you disagree with? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
Gun control deal done
On 4/11/13 4:57 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:09:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 4:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/11/2013 2:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On 11 Apr 2013 17:07:35 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:53:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 11:39 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/11/13 8:30 AM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:19:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: The Constitution does not exclude them. But then again, a convicted felon forfeited some of his rights. Those with serious mental health issues could easily be considered a danger to themselves and/or society. Alcoholics and drug addicts? How would that he controlled. I doubt if AA or NA are going to provide lists of members. And besides, members don't 'sign up' or register to be a member. I don't know what the regs are in a loose state like Virginia, but in Maryland if you are buying a firearm, you have to fill out a questionnaire for the state police on which you state under criminal penalties whether you are of legal age, whether you are engaging in a straw purchase, whether you've been convicted of a crime of violence, whether you've been convicted of a misdemeanor act of domestic violence, whether you are the respondent in a protective order, whether you've been committed to a mental institution, whether you are a habitual drunkard, et cetera. Say yes to any of 'em and your app is denied and you might get arrested. Anyone here a heavy drinker? --------------------------------------------------------- Same here in MA. As I mentioned to John in another post habitual use of drugs and/or alcohol can be cause for denial of a permit, but also every time you buy a firearm from a dealer, a form similar to the one you described .... probably the same one .... must be filled out. It specifically asks about drug and alcohol abuse. I have a difficult time understanding why so many on the right so violently oppose just about anything that relates to throttling down gun violence. I don't accept the fact that "Americans are just plain violent and gun laws will never do anything to stop it." Actually, the reasons are the same as the ones used by those on the left who oppose just about ....etc. If you call something a fact, what is there to not accept about it? It is a fact that there are some crazy-assed folks out there who will kill people - with guns or not with guns. A majority of those on the right, including a majority of NRA members, agree with the background checks. Many of the other laws, such as the majority of the rules passed by Maryland, are simply stupid. They'd have done nothing to prevent the last child massacre. However, a janitor with a concealed carry permit could have prevented it. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. Mythical. The secret service and armed police could not prevent the near-assassination of Reagan. What would you expect from a janitor whose other job was to safeguard a large school full of kids. No one mentioned anything about the janitor having 'another job', only a permit to carry a concealed weapon. And, not necessarily a janitor. An armed guidance counselor could have done as well. Shoot the gunner before he shot up twenty kids. Using your analogy, why have *any* security at the schools or any type of gun control if in one instance it can be overcome? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. You make a lot of assumptions but ignore the issues. The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by police is 14.29 The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a civilian is 2.33 From the article he http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31...ge-statistics/ Have a happy day harry, please keep playing with your guns... Daily Anarchist? Oh, well...in that case. What, in the article, do you disagree with? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. I don't read articles in publications with names like "The Daily Anarchist." By the way, do you suppose there are so few murders in this country where the weapon is a hand grenade has anything to do with the fact that hand grenades are not easy to obtain? |
Gun control deal done
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:53:01 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/11/13 4:48 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:10:12 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 3:08 PM, True North wrote: The Latino neighbours you were degrading right here in this newsgroup. Remember the families with one too many cars for your liking? They probably moved...Herring probably picketed their house. They're still there. The county got 'em. Most of the junk is back in the house, the oil drums are no longer in the driveway, the lawn is mowed regularly, and they even repainted the house. Place looks pretty good now. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. How about the house of your Latino neighbors? That's who I'm talking about. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
Gun control deal done
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:55:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/11/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:22:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Everyone should send PsyChoSnotty a pack of cigarettes. Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. PsychoSnotty gets really upset when you refer to him by his real name and blows up, and, besides, PsychoSnotty seems the perfect nick for him: he's psychotic and also a little snot. That wasn't the question. The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
Gun control deal done
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:59:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 4/11/13 4:57 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:09:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 4:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/11/2013 2:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On 11 Apr 2013 17:07:35 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:53:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 11:39 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/11/13 8:30 AM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:19:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: The Constitution does not exclude them. But then again, a convicted felon forfeited some of his rights. Those with serious mental health issues could easily be considered a danger to themselves and/or society. Alcoholics and drug addicts? How would that he controlled. I doubt if AA or NA are going to provide lists of members. And besides, members don't 'sign up' or register to be a member. I don't know what the regs are in a loose state like Virginia, but in Maryland if you are buying a firearm, you have to fill out a questionnaire for the state police on which you state under criminal penalties whether you are of legal age, whether you are engaging in a straw purchase, whether you've been convicted of a crime of violence, whether you've been convicted of a misdemeanor act of domestic violence, whether you are the respondent in a protective order, whether you've been committed to a mental institution, whether you are a habitual drunkard, et cetera. Say yes to any of 'em and your app is denied and you might get arrested. Anyone here a heavy drinker? --------------------------------------------------------- Same here in MA. As I mentioned to John in another post habitual use of drugs and/or alcohol can be cause for denial of a permit, but also every time you buy a firearm from a dealer, a form similar to the one you described .... probably the same one .... must be filled out. It specifically asks about drug and alcohol abuse. I have a difficult time understanding why so many on the right so violently oppose just about anything that relates to throttling down gun violence. I don't accept the fact that "Americans are just plain violent and gun laws will never do anything to stop it." Actually, the reasons are the same as the ones used by those on the left who oppose just about ....etc. If you call something a fact, what is there to not accept about it? It is a fact that there are some crazy-assed folks out there who will kill people - with guns or not with guns. A majority of those on the right, including a majority of NRA members, agree with the background checks. Many of the other laws, such as the majority of the rules passed by Maryland, are simply stupid. They'd have done nothing to prevent the last child massacre. However, a janitor with a concealed carry permit could have prevented it. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. Mythical. The secret service and armed police could not prevent the near-assassination of Reagan. What would you expect from a janitor whose other job was to safeguard a large school full of kids. No one mentioned anything about the janitor having 'another job', only a permit to carry a concealed weapon. And, not necessarily a janitor. An armed guidance counselor could have done as well. Shoot the gunner before he shot up twenty kids. Using your analogy, why have *any* security at the schools or any type of gun control if in one instance it can be overcome? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. You make a lot of assumptions but ignore the issues. The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by police is 14.29 The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a civilian is 2.33 From the article he http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31...ge-statistics/ Have a happy day harry, please keep playing with your guns... Daily Anarchist? Oh, well...in that case. What, in the article, do you disagree with? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. I don't read articles in publications with names like "The Daily Anarchist." By the way, do you suppose there are so few murders in this country where the weapon is a hand grenade has anything to do with the fact that hand grenades are not easy to obtain? So you agree with the article. Good. Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so? What were the special circumstances? Why do you put on the thumb safety on the range after you've chambered a round? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. |
Gun control deal done
On 4/11/13 7:34 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:55:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:22:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Everyone should send PsyChoSnotty a pack of cigarettes. Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. PsychoSnotty gets really upset when you refer to him by his real name and blows up, and, besides, PsychoSnotty seems the perfect nick for him: he's psychotic and also a little snot. That wasn't the question. The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. Don and I don't work at collaborating. We and several others think PsychoSnotty is bat**** crazy and say so. It has nothing to do with our egos. Even you right-wingers must realize that the boy has serious emotional problems, but instead of encouraging him to control himself and seek help, you encourage his anti-social behavior. Some years ago, when he called me, I offered to get him help for some of his family's medical issues. A number of my old buddies are in the medical professions up there, and several are affiliated with Yale Med. Could have lined him up with free meds, too. He turned it down because he thought a family member of mine would somehow make a buck off the referrrals. I knew right then and there he was just plain nuts. Nothing he has done since has convinced me otherwise. But go ahead, encourage the idiot. |
Gun control deal done
On 4/11/13 7:36 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:59:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 4:57 PM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:09:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 4:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote: On 4/11/2013 2:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On 11 Apr 2013 17:07:35 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote: J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:53:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 4/11/13 11:39 AM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 4/11/13 8:30 AM, J Herring wrote: On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:19:36 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: The Constitution does not exclude them. But then again, a convicted felon forfeited some of his rights. Those with serious mental health issues could easily be considered a danger to themselves and/or society. Alcoholics and drug addicts? How would that he controlled. I doubt if AA or NA are going to provide lists of members. And besides, members don't 'sign up' or register to be a member. I don't know what the regs are in a loose state like Virginia, but in Maryland if you are buying a firearm, you have to fill out a questionnaire for the state police on which you state under criminal penalties whether you are of legal age, whether you are engaging in a straw purchase, whether you've been convicted of a crime of violence, whether you've been convicted of a misdemeanor act of domestic violence, whether you are the respondent in a protective order, whether you've been committed to a mental institution, whether you are a habitual drunkard, et cetera. Say yes to any of 'em and your app is denied and you might get arrested. Anyone here a heavy drinker? --------------------------------------------------------- Same here in MA. As I mentioned to John in another post habitual use of drugs and/or alcohol can be cause for denial of a permit, but also every time you buy a firearm from a dealer, a form similar to the one you described .... probably the same one .... must be filled out. It specifically asks about drug and alcohol abuse. I have a difficult time understanding why so many on the right so violently oppose just about anything that relates to throttling down gun violence. I don't accept the fact that "Americans are just plain violent and gun laws will never do anything to stop it." Actually, the reasons are the same as the ones used by those on the left who oppose just about ....etc. If you call something a fact, what is there to not accept about it? It is a fact that there are some crazy-assed folks out there who will kill people - with guns or not with guns. A majority of those on the right, including a majority of NRA members, agree with the background checks. Many of the other laws, such as the majority of the rules passed by Maryland, are simply stupid. They'd have done nothing to prevent the last child massacre. However, a janitor with a concealed carry permit could have prevented it. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. Mythical. The secret service and armed police could not prevent the near-assassination of Reagan. What would you expect from a janitor whose other job was to safeguard a large school full of kids. No one mentioned anything about the janitor having 'another job', only a permit to carry a concealed weapon. And, not necessarily a janitor. An armed guidance counselor could have done as well. Shoot the gunner before he shot up twenty kids. Using your analogy, why have *any* security at the schools or any type of gun control if in one instance it can be overcome? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. You make a lot of assumptions but ignore the issues. The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by police is 14.29 The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a civilian is 2.33 From the article he http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31...ge-statistics/ Have a happy day harry, please keep playing with your guns... Daily Anarchist? Oh, well...in that case. What, in the article, do you disagree with? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. I don't read articles in publications with names like "The Daily Anarchist." By the way, do you suppose there are so few murders in this country where the weapon is a hand grenade has anything to do with the fact that hand grenades are not easy to obtain? So you agree with the article. Good. Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so? What were the special circumstances? Why do you put on the thumb safety on the range after you've chambered a round? Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand. Your thinking processes exemplify why the U.S. Army got handed its ass in Vietnam. |
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