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Wayne B April 12th 13 01:02 AM

Gun control deal done
 
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:34:09 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

That wasn't the question. The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your
ego? Are you proud that you can do so?


====

If you have followed Harry's modus operandi over the years, then you
will have noticed that he seeks out those who seem to have a soft spot
somewhere in their psychological make up or back ground. He will
then chip away at that spot trying to force some sort of emotional
blow up. This is a form of bullying of course which Harry seems to
find amusing for some reason. It would be all too easy to compile a
list of some of his past victims that he has driven from this group.
Mr Hypocrite himself, drooling over with false concern for the down
trodden of the world, getting his jollies by trying to push people
over the edge. It's pretty sick behavior and typical for a sociopath.
When no one seems to be rising to the bait, Harry will invent a new
sock puppet or invite a few "friends" over from some other group. The
antidote for all this is to just cut him off and ignore the sock
puppets when they becme known.

F.O.A.D. April 12th 13 01:09 AM

Gun control deal done
 
On 4/11/13 8:02 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:34:09 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

That wasn't the question. The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your
ego? Are you proud that you can do so?


====

If you have followed Harry's modus operandi over the years, then you
will have noticed that he seeks out those who seem to have a soft spot
somewhere in their psychological make up or back ground. He will
then chip away at that spot trying to force some sort of emotional
blow up. This is a form of bullying of course which Harry seems to
find amusing for some reason. It would be all too easy to compile a
list of some of his past victims that he has driven from this group.
Mr Hypocrite himself, drooling over with false concern for the down
trodden of the world, getting his jollies by trying to push people
over the edge. It's pretty sick behavior and typical for a sociopath.
When no one seems to be rising to the bait, Harry will invent a new
sock puppet or invite a few "friends" over from some other group. The
antidote for all this is to just cut him off and ignore the sock
puppets when they becme known.


Absolute total bull****, w'hine.

J Herring April 12th 13 01:13 AM

Gun control deal done
 
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:46:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 7:34 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:55:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:22:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


Everyone should send PsyChoSnotty a pack of cigarettes.

Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



PsychoSnotty gets really upset when you refer to him by his real name
and blows up, and, besides, PsychoSnotty seems the perfect nick for him:
he's psychotic and also a little snot.


That wasn't the question. The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your
ego? Are you proud that you can do so?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



Don and I don't work at collaborating. We and several others think
PsychoSnotty is bat**** crazy and say so. It has nothing to do with our
egos. Even you right-wingers must realize that the boy has serious
emotional problems, but instead of encouraging him to control himself
and seek help, you encourage his anti-social behavior.

Some years ago, when he called me, I offered to get him help for some of
his family's medical issues. A number of my old buddies are in the
medical professions up there, and several are affiliated with Yale Med.
Could have lined him up with free meds, too. He turned it down because
he thought a family member of mine would somehow make a buck off the
referrrals. I knew right then and there he was just plain nuts. Nothing
he has done since has convinced me otherwise.


Bull****.

But go ahead, encourage the idiot.


Never have. Have even attempted to discourage it. But you still evade the question:

The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your
ego? Are you proud that you can do so?



Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


J Herring April 12th 13 01:14 AM

Gun control deal done
 
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:09:48 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 8:02 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:34:09 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

That wasn't the question. The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your
ego? Are you proud that you can do so?


====

If you have followed Harry's modus operandi over the years, then you
will have noticed that he seeks out those who seem to have a soft spot
somewhere in their psychological make up or back ground. He will
then chip away at that spot trying to force some sort of emotional
blow up. This is a form of bullying of course which Harry seems to
find amusing for some reason. It would be all too easy to compile a
list of some of his past victims that he has driven from this group.
Mr Hypocrite himself, drooling over with false concern for the down
trodden of the world, getting his jollies by trying to push people
over the edge. It's pretty sick behavior and typical for a sociopath.
When no one seems to be rising to the bait, Harry will invent a new
sock puppet or invite a few "friends" over from some other group. The
antidote for all this is to just cut him off and ignore the sock
puppets when they becme known.


Absolute total bull****, w'hine.


On target.

Got 'special circumstances', ESAD?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


J Herring April 12th 13 01:15 AM

Gun control deal done
 
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:48:39 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 7:36 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:59:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 4:57 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:09:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 4:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/11/2013 2:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
J Herring wrote:
On 11 Apr 2013 17:07:35 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:53:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 11:39 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 4/11/13 8:30 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:19:36 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:




The Constitution does not exclude them.

But then again, a convicted felon forfeited some of his rights.
Those
with serious mental health
issues could easily be considered a danger to themselves and/or
society. Alcoholics and drug
addicts? How would that he controlled. I doubt if AA or NA are
going
to provide lists of members.
And besides, members don't 'sign up' or register to be a member.



I don't know what the regs are in a loose state like Virginia,
but in
Maryland if you are buying a firearm, you have to fill out a
questionnaire for the state police on which you state under criminal
penalties whether you are of legal age, whether you are engaging
in a
straw purchase, whether you've been convicted of a crime of
violence,
whether you've been convicted of a misdemeanor act of domestic
violence,
whether you are the respondent in a protective order, whether you've
been committed to a mental institution, whether you are a habitual
drunkard, et cetera. Say yes to any of 'em and your app is denied
and
you might get arrested.

Anyone here a heavy drinker?

---------------------------------------------------------

Same here in MA. As I mentioned to John in another post
habitual use
of drugs and/or alcohol can be cause for denial of a permit, but
also
every time you buy a firearm from a dealer, a form similar to the
one
you described .... probably the same one .... must be filled
out. It
specifically asks about drug and alcohol abuse.





I have a difficult time understanding why so many on the right so
violently oppose just about anything that relates to throttling
down gun
violence. I don't accept the fact that "Americans are just plain
violent
and gun laws will never do anything to stop it."


Actually, the reasons are the same as the ones used by those on the
left
who oppose just about
....etc. If you call something a fact, what is there to not accept
about
it? It is a fact that there
are some crazy-assed folks out there who will kill people - with
guns or
not with guns. A majority
of those on the right, including a majority of NRA members, agree with
the background checks. Many
of the other laws, such as the majority of the rules passed by
Maryland,
are simply stupid. They'd
have done nothing to prevent the last child massacre.

However, a janitor with a concealed carry permit could have
prevented it.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Mythical. The secret service and armed police could not prevent the
near-assassination of Reagan. What would you expect from a janitor
whose
other job was to safeguard a large school full of kids.

No one mentioned anything about the janitor having 'another job', only a
permit to carry a concealed
weapon. And, not necessarily a janitor. An armed guidance counselor
could
have done as well.

Shoot the gunner before he shot up twenty kids. Using your analogy, why
have *any* security at the
schools or any type of gun control if in one instance it can be
overcome?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

You make a lot of assumptions but ignore the issues.


The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by
police is 14.29

The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a
civilian is 2.33

From the article he
http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31...ge-statistics/


Have a happy day harry, please keep playing with your guns...


Daily Anarchist? Oh, well...in that case.

What, in the article, do you disagree with?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I don't read articles in publications with names like "The Daily Anarchist."

By the way, do you suppose there are so few murders in this country
where the weapon is a hand grenade has anything to do with the fact that
hand grenades are not easy to obtain?


So you agree with the article. Good.

Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so?

What were the special circumstances?

Why do you put on the thumb safety on the range after you've chambered a round?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Your thinking processes exemplify why the U.S. Army got handed its ass
in Vietnam.


In your shoes, I'd start with the personal attacks also. It must be horribly embarrassing to be in
your position - bull****ting and caught.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


F.O.A.D. April 12th 13 01:32 AM

Gun control deal done
 
On 4/11/13 8:13 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:46:36 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 7:34 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:55:24 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 4:51 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:22:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Everyone should send PsyChoSnotty a pack of cigarettes.

Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



PsychoSnotty gets really upset when you refer to him by his real name
and blows up, and, besides, PsychoSnotty seems the perfect nick for him:
he's psychotic and also a little snot.

That wasn't the question. The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your
ego? Are you proud that you can do so?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



Don and I don't work at collaborating. We and several others think
PsychoSnotty is bat**** crazy and say so. It has nothing to do with our
egos. Even you right-wingers must realize that the boy has serious
emotional problems, but instead of encouraging him to control himself
and seek help, you encourage his anti-social behavior.

Some years ago, when he called me, I offered to get him help for some of
his family's medical issues. A number of my old buddies are in the
medical professions up there, and several are affiliated with Yale Med.
Could have lined him up with free meds, too. He turned it down because
he thought a family member of mine would somehow make a buck off the
referrrals. I knew right then and there he was just plain nuts. Nothing
he has done since has convinced me otherwise.


Bull****.


Not at all. He even discussed it here, and said he turned it down
because of the reason I stated.




But go ahead, encourage the idiot.


Never have. Have even attempted to discourage it. But you still evade the question:

The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your
ego? Are you proud that you can do so?



I don't mind ****ting on the heads of right-wing lunatics. IT has
nothing to do with ego,


F.O.A.D. April 12th 13 01:32 AM

Gun control deal done
 
On 4/11/13 8:15 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:48:39 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 7:36 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:59:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 4:57 PM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:09:18 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 4:02 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 4/11/2013 2:27 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
J Herring wrote:
On 11 Apr 2013 17:07:35 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:53:07 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 11:39 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 4/11/13 8:30 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:19:36 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:




The Constitution does not exclude them.

But then again, a convicted felon forfeited some of his rights.
Those
with serious mental health
issues could easily be considered a danger to themselves and/or
society. Alcoholics and drug
addicts? How would that he controlled. I doubt if AA or NA are
going
to provide lists of members.
And besides, members don't 'sign up' or register to be a member.



I don't know what the regs are in a loose state like Virginia,
but in
Maryland if you are buying a firearm, you have to fill out a
questionnaire for the state police on which you state under criminal
penalties whether you are of legal age, whether you are engaging
in a
straw purchase, whether you've been convicted of a crime of
violence,
whether you've been convicted of a misdemeanor act of domestic
violence,
whether you are the respondent in a protective order, whether you've
been committed to a mental institution, whether you are a habitual
drunkard, et cetera. Say yes to any of 'em and your app is denied
and
you might get arrested.

Anyone here a heavy drinker?

---------------------------------------------------------

Same here in MA. As I mentioned to John in another post
habitual use
of drugs and/or alcohol can be cause for denial of a permit, but
also
every time you buy a firearm from a dealer, a form similar to the
one
you described .... probably the same one .... must be filled
out. It
specifically asks about drug and alcohol abuse.





I have a difficult time understanding why so many on the right so
violently oppose just about anything that relates to throttling
down gun
violence. I don't accept the fact that "Americans are just plain
violent
and gun laws will never do anything to stop it."


Actually, the reasons are the same as the ones used by those on the
left
who oppose just about
....etc. If you call something a fact, what is there to not accept
about
it? It is a fact that there
are some crazy-assed folks out there who will kill people - with
guns or
not with guns. A majority
of those on the right, including a majority of NRA members, agree with
the background checks. Many
of the other laws, such as the majority of the rules passed by
Maryland,
are simply stupid. They'd
have done nothing to prevent the last child massacre.

However, a janitor with a concealed carry permit could have
prevented it.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

Mythical. The secret service and armed police could not prevent the
near-assassination of Reagan. What would you expect from a janitor
whose
other job was to safeguard a large school full of kids.

No one mentioned anything about the janitor having 'another job', only a
permit to carry a concealed
weapon. And, not necessarily a janitor. An armed guidance counselor
could
have done as well.

Shoot the gunner before he shot up twenty kids. Using your analogy, why
have *any* security at the
schools or any type of gun control if in one instance it can be
overcome?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.

You make a lot of assumptions but ignore the issues.


The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by
police is 14.29

The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a
civilian is 2.33

From the article he
http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31...ge-statistics/


Have a happy day harry, please keep playing with your guns...


Daily Anarchist? Oh, well...in that case.

What, in the article, do you disagree with?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



I don't read articles in publications with names like "The Daily Anarchist."

By the way, do you suppose there are so few murders in this country
where the weapon is a hand grenade has anything to do with the fact that
hand grenades are not easy to obtain?

So you agree with the article. Good.

Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your ego? Are you proud that you can do so?

What were the special circumstances?

Why do you put on the thumb safety on the range after you've chambered a round?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.


Your thinking processes exemplify why the U.S. Army got handed its ass
in Vietnam.


In your shoes, I'd start with the personal attacks also. It must be horribly embarrassing to be in
your position - bull****ting and caught.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling' - the liberals' last stand.



So the biggest event of your military career was a failure. Must suck, eh?

Wayne B April 12th 13 01:51 AM

Gun control deal done
 
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:09:48 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 8:02 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:34:09 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

That wasn't the question. The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your
ego? Are you proud that you can do so?


====

If you have followed Harry's modus operandi over the years, then you
will have noticed that he seeks out those who seem to have a soft spot
somewhere in their psychological make up or back ground. He will
then chip away at that spot trying to force some sort of emotional
blow up. This is a form of bullying of course which Harry seems to
find amusing for some reason. It would be all too easy to compile a
list of some of his past victims that he has driven from this group.
Mr Hypocrite himself, drooling over with false concern for the down
trodden of the world, getting his jollies by trying to push people
over the edge. It's pretty sick behavior and typical for a sociopath.
When no one seems to be rising to the bait, Harry will invent a new
sock puppet or invite a few "friends" over from some other group. The
antidote for all this is to just cut him off and ignore the sock
puppets when they becme known.


Absolute total bull****, w'hine.


====

Not at all. The facts are out there as you well know. Imagine
yourself at a trial trying to defend that position as the witnesses
file in and take the stand.

F.O.A.D. April 12th 13 02:00 AM

Gun control deal done
 
On 4/11/13 8:51 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:09:48 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 4/11/13 8:02 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:34:09 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

That wasn't the question. The question was: Does your name-calling tag team with Donnie help your
ego? Are you proud that you can do so?

====

If you have followed Harry's modus operandi over the years, then you
will have noticed that he seeks out those who seem to have a soft spot
somewhere in their psychological make up or back ground. He will
then chip away at that spot trying to force some sort of emotional
blow up. This is a form of bullying of course which Harry seems to
find amusing for some reason. It would be all too easy to compile a
list of some of his past victims that he has driven from this group.
Mr Hypocrite himself, drooling over with false concern for the down
trodden of the world, getting his jollies by trying to push people
over the edge. It's pretty sick behavior and typical for a sociopath.
When no one seems to be rising to the bait, Harry will invent a new
sock puppet or invite a few "friends" over from some other group. The
antidote for all this is to just cut him off and ignore the sock
puppets when they becme known.


Absolute total bull****, w'hine.


====

Not at all. The facts are out there as you well know. Imagine
yourself at a trial trying to defend that position as the witnesses
file in and take the stand.


Sure, w'hine. Go do something useful...take some out of focus photos of
tits on the shoreline.

BAR[_2_] April 12th 13 02:06 AM

Gun control deal done
 
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On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:06:53 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

Details at 11.

Something is better than nothing! (I ****ing hope so anyway!)


I must have missed the constitution amendment process?

--------------------------------------

The Constitution says you have the right to bear arms and you do.


The Constitution says we all have the right to keep and bear arms.

-------------------------------------------------

Are you saying that right also extends to convicted felons, people
with serious mental health issues, alcoholics and drug addicts?


Why shouldn't someone who has paid their debt to society be able to have all of their rights
restored upon the conclusion of sentence? People with mental health issues, alcoholics and
drug addicts already keep and bear arms. They haven't committed a crime yet so why should
they be prevented from excercising their rights, all of their rights? If idiots from
institutions can be registered to vote and then be assisted in votting why shouldn't they be
able to keep and bear arms? Where is the line and does it apply to everyone and every
situation? Isn't the equal applicaiton of justice the goal?


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