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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.


--------------------------------

What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to
study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto
uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to
teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education.
http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5
What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the
same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to
stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control.

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"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:37:26 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:48:20 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.

Salute their parents, probably not on welfare, also.


Salmonbait

If you had no way to feed your kids or cloth them would you take welfare
or let them starve to death?

What a dumb ****ing question. Salmon**** would eat the kids.


------------------------------
What a dumb ****ing response. Those on welfare have food and housing. They
should even have more time to study or help their kids anyway they can.

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"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:11:42 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:03:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:18:29 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery
but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the
license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?

You said Florida.

You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

I did, and posted the fees for Florida.

You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every
10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and
they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market.

The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which
county you are talking about

Only resale maybe. The license costs have already be documented,
you're just trying to slime your way out of being wrong.

That is the only place you can get a license unless you win it in the
once a decade lottery.

Which has nothing to do with getting a license from the state.
Something you're trying to claim you never said. Well, as usual, you
talk in generalities with no justification.

It's like claiming that it costs hundreds of dollars to pay a round of
golf. Well, yeah, if you including buying clubs.

The license is a couple of grand maybe, depending on the type. Then
when you get it you'll have an investment opportunity.

Try making some sense next time.
==========================

Depending on the county in California that couple of grand could be 100
grand. About 45 years ago, friend ran a liquor store in Concord, CA. He
and wife had a great week. Went to Las Vegas and came back with a $1000
more than they left town with after all expenses, and they both entered the
liquor license lotto. Both got drawn. At that time the lotto was about $200
to enter and I think the license was about $5000. You had to run the new
store for a year before the license could be transferred to someone else.
At that time a license in Contra Costa County sold for about $100,000, plus
the store stock. I think there was about a 2% chance of winning in the
lotto. That is the real cost of a license, not the state sold cost, which
is near impossible to get. San Francisco licenses are actually cheap, and
you can not transfer out of county. They are issued per number of residents
and during WW2 SF had a huge population, so lots of licenses were issued.
Much smaller population now, but number of licenses does not decrease.

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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 3/19/13 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:14:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional
sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a
significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for
being a professor.

I bet that is true.
They buy what they sell.



Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement.


-----------------

No, distain for some of the Schooling rules. Talking with the Dean of
Engineering at Santa Clara Univ. during the 90's she said if you want to
teach in the university, get a PhD. If you want to be an engineer get a
masters. Education these days uses college to limit entrance, to keep
prices up. Why does a 3rd grade teacher need a masters plus a year of
basically unpaid student teaching? A whole generation of people were taught
by people with a bachelors degree, and that generation seemed to do better
than what we have now. Sent man to the moon, and built a great
infrastructure in the USA.

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On 3/22/13 10:36 AM, Califbill wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
...

On 3/19/13 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:14:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional
sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a
significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for
being a professor.

I bet that is true.
They buy what they sell.



Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement.


-----------------

No, distain for some of the Schooling rules. Talking with the Dean of
Engineering at Santa Clara Univ. during the 90's she said if you want
to teach in the university, get a PhD. If you want to be an engineer
get a masters. Education these days uses college to limit entrance, to
keep prices up. Why does a 3rd grade teacher need a masters plus a year
of basically unpaid student teaching? A whole generation of people were
taught by people with a bachelors degree, and that generation seemed to
do better than what we have now. Sent man to the moon, and built a
great infrastructure in the USA.


I'm not sure the academic requirements have changed all that much. Back
in the dark ages when I was in the K-12 public school system, all the
teachers I had had master's degrees or were working on getting one. You
were only allowed to teach so many years, not many, without a masters.
And the student teaching was considered an apprenticeship. No one got
into the system without an apprenticeship.

You should have a Ph.D to teach at the college level. It means you spent
the time and made the effort to be an academician, that you know how to
do research, and how to advance the level of learning in your field,
among many other things.

I hope you don't think we got to the moon without an awful lot of
serious input from Ph.Ds in many fields.

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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:05:42 -0700, "Califbill" wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.


--------------------------------

What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to
study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto
uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to
teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education.
http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5
What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the
same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to
stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control.

"Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power."

The liberal and union mantra.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

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On 3/22/13 12:05 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:49:02 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'm not sure the academic requirements have changed all that much. Back
in the dark ages when I was in the K-12 public school system, all the
teachers I had had master's degrees or were working on getting one. You
were only allowed to teach so many years, not many, without a masters.
And the student teaching was considered an apprenticeship. No one got
into the system without an apprenticeship.

You should have a Ph.D to teach at the college level. It means you spent
the time and made the effort to be an academician, that you know how to
do research, and how to advance the level of learning in your field,
among many other things.

I hope you don't think we got to the moon without an awful lot of
serious input from Ph.Ds in many fields.

On the other hand I never heard of a PHD or even a masters in the
public school system in DC or Maryland (50s-60s).
Most simply had a BA with a teacher course credit.

We had one PHD in the private school I went to (59-64) and he was
actually a working chemist for he Bureau of Alcohol and Tobacco before
he retired and started teaching. The best teacher in the school
(IMHO) was working his way through law school. Most were not career
teachers so they brought real life experience to the class.
The biology teacher was also working with a grant from NIH for a lab
in Rockville. The math teacher was a retired West Point instructor.



Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life
experience."

We had three Ph.D's in our public high school, teaching physics, history
and one other area, Russian, maybe, and a lot of student teachers from
schools of education at Southern Connecticut State College (now
University) and Yale, both in New Haven. Sadly, a few years after I
graduated from my high school, there was some minor racial unrest in
parts of New Haven, and that precipitated a serious amount of
unnecessary white flight to the farther out suburbs. The Bobby Seale
trial a couple of years later didn't help, either.

I've been pleased in my recent trips to New Haven to see a revival in
many areas, though the crime rate is still too high.

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In article ,
says...

wrote in message ...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.


--------------------------------

What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to
study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto
uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to
teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education.
http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5
What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the
same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to
stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control.

You, like a lot of others here sure are quick to lump everyone into one
narrow minded category.

Brewing economic scandal
 

In article ,
says...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:32:28 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?

You said Florida.

You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

I did, and posted the fees for Florida.

You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every
10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and
they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market.

The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which
county you are talking about

Again, CITE?

Look up this thread a ways. I posted an article in the paper that was
complaining that the economy has driven the price down from $400k to a
mere $175k.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/...y-alcohol-fee/

One county makes up the whole state????

From YOUR cite:

In Florida, the state only gets money from the sale of a quota license
when the license is first issued through the lottery system. The lottery
winner pays a one-time fee of $10,750 in addition to the annual license
cost

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In article ,
says...

On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:05:42 -0700, "Califbill" wrote:

wrote in message ...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:28:10 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.

I spent a lot more time in the inner city than you and I have been
shot at twice.
That is not what we were talking about tho is it?

How many of those inner city kids have the grades to get in college in
the first place? Graduation rates are in the mid 30% and most of them
barely read at the 8th grade level.
If you do find a kid who can make it to college, I salute them. They
will have the desire to succeed and they have a very good chance of
actually getting something out of it.


--------------------------------

What is really sad, is these inner city kids think it is to "whitey" to
study and learn. Just got back from 3 weeks in South Africa. The Soweto
uprising was over education. The Whites in charge changing the schools to
teach in a language the kids did not know. Depriving them of education.
http://overcomingapartheid.msu.edu/sidebar.php?id=5
What would those children in SA think of those in Chicago? Maybe it is the
same in the inner cities as in SA. Keep the children ignorant and we get to
stay in power. Just not the Caucasian in control.

"Keep the children ignorant and we get to stay in power."

The liberal and union mantra.


Salmonbait

What liberal are you quoting?