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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:19:55 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:57:39 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:48:46 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

OK liquor store, that license will cost at least $250,000 in Florida
and I imagine any other place that limits the number of licenses.

Huh?

http://tinyurl.com/c73fdqr

Yikes! Facts!

It's a lotto, but if you win, then you could sell the license to
someone else for a cool $500K?

More like $250-400k but yes that is how it works.

So, the bottom line is that it doesn't cost big bucks to get the
license, and you can sell it for 10x what you paid. So, like I said,
you're talkin out your ass.

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On 3/21/13 8:08 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:00:43 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:15:07 -0400, wrote:


You don't think the market would decide that? You also have to include
bars and some restaurants in that number depending on how the law is
written. In Florida a class A license is needed to own a liquor store
but you can also operate a "lounge" under that license. That is why
you see one at most big liquor stores here,

I am kind of curious about how the Walmart/Walgreens/Costco stores are
impacting that model.

Maybe eventually, but in the mean time there'd be a liquor store on
every corner. Is that something you'd like to see? I'm sure it would
enhance your neighborhood, but not mine.

If there are not enough customers to support a store on every corner,
they will go broke. That is how the market works. In fact I believe
the Walmart type stores are wiping out some of the mom and pop stores.
The survivors are the ones that have a successful lounge.


There is no need for nor should there be a liquor store on every corner.
Well, maybe in Florida.

We don't have any WalMart type booze sellers around this part of
southern Maryland. For the moment. But we do have a good number of
liquor stores and some combo stores that sell decent wines, too.

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On 3/21/2013 8:24 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:07:15 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:23:07 -0400, wrote:

Investors on startups are not really that easy to find for a person
who has never done anything.. You only hear about the people who find
one, The rest are still starving in their garage.

So, you can't find an investor? You know this? I thought liquor
licenses were valuable? You're telling me an investor wouldn't devote
some time to make sure it was run correctly??? Good grief.

That assumes the investor knows anything about running a store,
picking the right location, hiring the right people and if that was
true, why does he need YOU?


Man is loogie playing you hard....

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:53:29 -0500, Boating All Out
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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:05:59 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


I don't see reasonable limits on the number of liquor stores as
"restraining trade." There's about 80,000 people living in this county.
We sure as hell don't "need" 80 liquor stores.


You don't think the market would decide that? You also have to include
bars and some restaurants in that number depending on how the law is
written. In Florida a class A license is needed to own a liquor store
but you can also operate a "lounge" under that license. That is why
you see one at most big liquor stores here,

I am kind of curious about how the Walmart/Walgreens/Costco stores are
impacting that model.

Yep. What happened to the "free market?"
Pretty sure "church people" had a big say in liquor licensing in every
state. Probably influenced more now by corruption - special interest
lobbying. Seedy business. You tried to score, eh?
It's all easily fixable if the politicians were honest.
Outside of zoning which doesn't want liquor sales, just license any
location/owner which qualifies. Renew every year. Location is sold to
a new guy, he just has to background qualify like the previous owner.
Location violates licensing rule or causes trouble, shut it down.
What's so hard about it? Lobbyists.
Quotas are driven by "church people" or corruption.
You think Walmart/Walgreens/Costco have to enter a lottery to sell
liquor? Hah.
Quotas or not, allowing a private party to sell a government license is
inherently corrupt.
Use it or lose it.


Most of the liquor laws are lingering remnants of Prohibition,
particularly in those states where the church is powerful.

Walmart can just buy a license and they have the legal compliance
department to keep them out of regulatory trouble.
At a certain point you have to believe the big players who can buy a
few legislators like this to be expensive and complicated to get into,
to limit the competition ... but I think the same thing is true of
most licensing and complex regulation.

Damascus, Maryland just got on-premesis alcohol. It had been dry for
over 100 years.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:08:17 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:00:43 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:15:07 -0400, wrote:


You don't think the market would decide that? You also have to include
bars and some restaurants in that number depending on how the law is
written. In Florida a class A license is needed to own a liquor store
but you can also operate a "lounge" under that license. That is why
you see one at most big liquor stores here,

I am kind of curious about how the Walmart/Walgreens/Costco stores are
impacting that model.

Maybe eventually, but in the mean time there'd be a liquor store on
every corner. Is that something you'd like to see? I'm sure it would
enhance your neighborhood, but not mine.

If there are not enough customers to support a store on every corner,
they will go broke. That is how the market works. In fact I believe
the Walmart type stores are wiping out some of the mom and pop stores.
The survivors are the ones that have a successful lounge.

So, then what I said is completely accurate.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:10:46 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:02:27 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:25:07 -0400, wrote:

You are the one who posted the article saying that was one of the top
ten ideas to get rich
I am just pointing out it is not something a poor person can do.



And, you claimed it was going to cost $500K, which it doesn't. So now
you're trying to weasel out of your claim by blaming me for point out
your weaselness.

Not at all. I said the license will be $250-400k but it will still
cost over 100k more to get your store up and going.

This is not a poor man's game

And the previous posted pointed out that you're full of ****. The
licenses are in four figures.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:11:42 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:03:21 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:18:29 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

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says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?

You said Florida.

You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

I did, and posted the fees for Florida.

You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every
10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and
they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market.

The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which
county you are talking about

Only resale maybe. The license costs have already be documented,
you're just trying to slime your way out of being wrong.

That is the only place you can get a license unless you win it in the
once a decade lottery.

Which has nothing to do with getting a license from the state.
Something you're trying to claim you never said. Well, as usual, you
talk in generalities with no justification.

It's like claiming that it costs hundreds of dollars to pay a round of
golf. Well, yeah, if you including buying clubs.

The license is a couple of grand maybe, depending on the type. Then
when you get it you'll have an investment opportunity.

Try making some sense next time.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:24:39 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:07:15 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:23:07 -0400, wrote:

Investors on startups are not really that easy to find for a person
who has never done anything.. You only hear about the people who find
one, The rest are still starving in their garage.

So, you can't find an investor? You know this? I thought liquor
licenses were valuable? You're telling me an investor wouldn't devote
some time to make sure it was run correctly??? Good grief.

That assumes the investor knows anything about running a store,
picking the right location, hiring the right people and if that was
true, why does he need YOU?

Yeah, because investors don't know anything nor care where they put
there money?

Because you got da license dummy. I thought you said they were hard to
get?

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 21:23:53 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 3/21/2013 8:24 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:07:15 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:23:07 -0400, wrote:

Investors on startups are not really that easy to find for a person
who has never done anything.. You only hear about the people who find
one, The rest are still starving in their garage.

So, you can't find an investor? You know this? I thought liquor
licenses were valuable? You're telling me an investor wouldn't devote
some time to make sure it was run correctly??? Good grief.

That assumes the investor knows anything about running a store,
picking the right location, hiring the right people and if that was
true, why does he need YOU?


Man is loogie playing you hard....

Man you're ****ing stupid. So, I'm not kevin now I'm logier? ****in
stupid is you.

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says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?

You said Florida.

You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

I did, and posted the fees for Florida.

You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every
10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and
they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market.

The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which
county you are talking about

Again, CITE?