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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:04:37 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?
You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

scroll down past the government hits and look at the resale sites.
Most places with quota license laws are sold out as soon as the new
licenses go on sale, usually right after the census and they usually
have a lottery to sell them. After that, they become a free market
commodity
We were in the Florida license lottery in 1990 and it cost a few
hundred then, just to play (not refundable). We didn't win.
If we had, the license was worth about $250k after we operated it for
a year or two. (I don't remember the actual time but it was in that
range).

Sounds like more bs. You said Florida or didn't you? Boater showed you
the link. Now you claim you knew all along and actually tried it.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?

You said Florida.

You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

I did, and posted the fees for Florida.

Just like that CAD program that does all of the engineering for a
complex project, this is a tall tale.


Yeah.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:27:47 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:04:58 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:04:37 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?
You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

scroll down past the government hits and look at the resale sites.
Most places with quota license laws are sold out as soon as the new
licenses go on sale, usually right after the census and they usually
have a lottery to sell them. After that, they become a free market
commodity
We were in the Florida license lottery in 1990 and it cost a few
hundred then, just to play (not refundable). We didn't win.
If we had, the license was worth about $250k after we operated it for
a year or two. (I don't remember the actual time but it was in that
range).

Sounds like more bs. You said Florida or didn't you? Boater showed you
the link. Now you claim you knew all along and actually tried it.

I did say Florida and Kevin never said anything that proved anything I
said was wrong.

I am not sure what it takes to make you believe anything. I understand
you have spent your life in your room doing nothing but some of us
have actually done things with our lives.

Are you implying that playing with himself is 'doing nothing'?

I actually find it hard to believe that there are some folks who haven't filtered him yet. He's
definitely not your caliber of debater.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:05:59 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


I don't see reasonable limits on the number of liquor stores as
"restraining trade." There's about 80,000 people living in this county.
We sure as hell don't "need" 80 liquor stores.


You don't think the market would decide that? You also have to include
bars and some restaurants in that number depending on how the law is
written. In Florida a class A license is needed to own a liquor store
but you can also operate a "lounge" under that license. That is why
you see one at most big liquor stores here,

I am kind of curious about how the Walmart/Walgreens/Costco stores are
impacting that model.

Yep. What happened to the "free market?"
Pretty sure "church people" had a big say in liquor licensing in every
state. Probably influenced more now by corruption - special interest
lobbying. Seedy business. You tried to score, eh?
It's all easily fixable if the politicians were honest.
Outside of zoning which doesn't want liquor sales, just license any
location/owner which qualifies. Renew every year. Location is sold to
a new guy, he just has to background qualify like the previous owner.
Location violates licensing rule or causes trouble, shut it down.
What's so hard about it? Lobbyists.
Quotas are driven by "church people" or corruption.
You think Walmart/Walgreens/Costco have to enter a lottery to sell
liquor? Hah.
Quotas or not, allowing a private party to sell a government license is
inherently corrupt.
Use it or lose it.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:15:07 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:05:59 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/21/13 12:57 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:38:31 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/21/13 11:30 AM, wrote:

OK liquor store, that license will cost at least $250,000 in Florida
and I imagine any other place that limits the number of licenses.

Huh?

http://tinyurl.com/c73fdqr

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.



Ahh, the "private" market. $$$ uber alles, eh?

More like the government restraining trade by limiting the number of
licenses. Any time you limit supply, you drive up the price.
I bet that when those laws were originally passed, the licenses were
doled out to political cronies and people who paid the public
officials directly.
Maryland has a quota system too. (one license per every 1000 people in
the census by county). That is a fairly generous number of licenses
but I bet some counties still have licenses that will sell for 100
grand.



Well, opinions differ as to how many liquor stores are needed in a given
area.

Starting at the county line and just counting the liquor stores along
Route 4 down past Prince Frederick, I know there are at least 15,
because every time I'm on that road, and that's pretty much every day, I
see them. Several of them are "drive through" liquor stores.

Hell, we have at least four times as many churches in the area as liquor
stores, and at least twice as many banks.

I don't see reasonable limits on the number of liquor stores as
"restraining trade." There's about 80,000 people living in this county.
We sure as hell don't "need" 80 liquor stores.


You don't think the market would decide that? You also have to include
bars and some restaurants in that number depending on how the law is
written. In Florida a class A license is needed to own a liquor store
but you can also operate a "lounge" under that license. That is why
you see one at most big liquor stores here,

I am kind of curious about how the Walmart/Walgreens/Costco stores are
impacting that model.

Maybe eventually, but in the mean time there'd be a liquor store on
every corner. Is that something you'd like to see? I'm sure it would
enhance your neighborhood, but not mine.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:25:07 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:01:25 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:57:10 -0400, wrote:


More like the government restraining trade by limiting the number of
licenses. Any time you limit supply, you drive up the price.
I bet that when those laws were originally passed, the licenses were
doled out to political cronies and people who paid the public
officials directly.
Maryland has a quota system too. (one license per every 1000 people in
the census by county). That is a fairly generous number of licenses
but I bet some counties still have licenses that will sell for 100
grand.

Oh come on. You just said it cost $500K, then when the facts are
shown, you claim that you have to operate first to sell for a profit.
Now you're claiming it's the governments fault for not allowing just
anyone to open a liquor store. Just what we need, more ****ing liquor
stores. There aren't enough, apparently?

You are the one who posted the article saying that was one of the top
ten ideas to get rich
I am just pointing out it is not something a poor person can do.



And, you claimed it was going to cost $500K, which it doesn't. So now
you're trying to weasel out of your claim by blaming me for point out
your weaselness.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:18:29 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?

You said Florida.

You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

I did, and posted the fees for Florida.

You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every
10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and
they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market.

The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which
county you are talking about

Only resale maybe. The license costs have already be documented,
you're just trying to slime your way out of being wrong.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:27:47 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:04:58 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:04:37 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?
You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

scroll down past the government hits and look at the resale sites.
Most places with quota license laws are sold out as soon as the new
licenses go on sale, usually right after the census and they usually
have a lottery to sell them. After that, they become a free market
commodity
We were in the Florida license lottery in 1990 and it cost a few
hundred then, just to play (not refundable). We didn't win.
If we had, the license was worth about $250k after we operated it for
a year or two. (I don't remember the actual time but it was in that
range).

Sounds like more bs. You said Florida or didn't you? Boater showed you
the link. Now you claim you knew all along and actually tried it.

I did say Florida and Kevin never said anything that proved anything I
said was wrong.

You claimed it cost thousands to get the license... big thousands.
That's what he pointed out that was complete bs.

I am not sure what it takes to make you believe anything. I understand
you have spent your life in your room doing nothing but some of us
have actually done things with our lives.

Ah, the ad homin attack. That makes you look like quite the adult.

How about some facts boy.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:17:53 -0400, J Herring
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:27:47 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:04:58 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:04:37 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

Cite?

Which state?
You can just google this yourself if you want
Try cost liquor license state

scroll down past the government hits and look at the resale sites.
Most places with quota license laws are sold out as soon as the new
licenses go on sale, usually right after the census and they usually
have a lottery to sell them. After that, they become a free market
commodity
We were in the Florida license lottery in 1990 and it cost a few
hundred then, just to play (not refundable). We didn't win.
If we had, the license was worth about $250k after we operated it for
a year or two. (I don't remember the actual time but it was in that
range).

Sounds like more bs. You said Florida or didn't you? Boater showed you
the link. Now you claim you knew all along and actually tried it.

I did say Florida and Kevin never said anything that proved anything I
said was wrong.

I am not sure what it takes to make you believe anything. I understand
you have spent your life in your room doing nothing but some of us
have actually done things with our lives.

Are you implying that playing with himself is 'doing nothing'?

I actually find it hard to believe that there are some folks who haven't filtered him yet. He's
definitely not your caliber of debater.


Salmonbait

Well, dip****bait, whatever you say.

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On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:59:07 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:30:58 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:48:46 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:



That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but
the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more
valuable once you own one.
Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the
limit when you want to buy one.
Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license
for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators.

So, you don't think you can get investors to work the operation? I
thought that was what free market is all about.

Investors on startups are not really that easy to find for a person
who has never done anything.. You only hear about the people who find
one, The rest are still starving in their garage.

So, you can't find an investor? You know this? I thought liquor
licenses were valuable? You're telling me an investor wouldn't devote
some time to make sure it was run correctly??? Good grief.