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Brewing economic scandal
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:05:25 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/19/13 12:00 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:14:06 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I'm pretty sure you cannot "end up being a professor" in the traditional sense of that word without a Ph.D. A Master's degree, while a significant achievement, is not the academic qualifier required for being a professor. I bet that is true. They buy what they sell. Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement. Well, that's what I'm talking about. He talks the talk of an open-minded person, but deep down he's just like the rest. |
Brewing economic scandal
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement. ---------------------------------- I don't notice any disdain for academic achievement here. What I *do* notice is disdain exhibited by some for those who haven't pursued a college degree for whatever reasons they may have. I've also noticed that the more formal education some people have, the more they are of the opinion that the acquisition of degrees and titles automatically qualifies them as successful or somehow makes them "superior". I've known some people with enough advanced technical degrees and titles to saturate their business cards with ink but they were worthless in terms of accomplishing much of anything. Many of them simply became "professional paper givers" because they spent most of their careers attending technical conventions and seminars, giving papers on their latest research or brainfart. Some of this was valuable and served a purpose within the technical community but the real work of implementing the information or data for a useful purpose was left to the grunt engineers and technicians. Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves very valuable employees in the process. Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's not the only key. |
Brewing economic scandal
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Brewing economic scandal
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:20:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... Just love the disdain shown here so often for academic achievement. ---------------------------------- I don't notice any disdain for academic achievement here. What I *do* notice is disdain exhibited by some for those who haven't pursued a college degree for whatever reasons they may have. I've also noticed that the more formal education some people have, the more they are of the opinion that the acquisition of degrees and titles automatically qualifies them as successful or somehow makes them "superior". You know I've been around a while, and I have a college degree, and I don't look down on a plumber or a mechanic. I'm just glad I had the opportunity to get my degree and not have to fix toilets. Just about every laborer I've met wants to send their kids to college so they don't have to fix toilets or cars. I've known some people with enough advanced technical degrees and titles to saturate their business cards with ink but they were worthless in terms of accomplishing much of anything. And, I've know plenty of mechanics who couldn't change a tire without getting someone to read the manual to them. Well, ok, they were just incopentent and didn't fix whatever they were supposed to fix. Many of them simply became "professional paper givers" because they spent most of their careers attending technical conventions and seminars, giving papers on their latest research or brainfart. Some of this was valuable and served a purpose within the technical community but the real work of implementing the information or data for a useful purpose was left to the grunt engineers and technicians. Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves very valuable employees in the process. I've know professors who were highly competent and could tear down anything mechanical, repair it and get it together, same goes with electronics and programming. I've known some I wouldn't trust to open a door without hitting htemselves in the head. I've also know people without even a hs edu that had incredible street sense and good troubleshooting skills, but almost to a person they wished they'd stayed in school. Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's not the only key. Is anyone claiming that?? I didn't read it. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:18:09 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote: Well, then I guess you'll need something else first. Maybe work for 20 years as an auto-mechanic for someone else, so you can save up to buy a liquor store. What a fantastic life. === It's the great American way: work hard, save money, invest in the future. You have a problem with that? Too bad you didn't inherit any money from wealthy ancestors. That's the only easy way that has withstood the test of time. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:20:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves very valuable employees in the process. Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's not the only key. ==== Absolutely right. Education and knowledge are only valuable to the extent that you can use them effectively to accomplish something else. Almost everyone has met an educated fool at one time or another. |
Brewing economic scandal
On 3/18/2013 6:29 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:46:22 -0500, amdx wrote: On 3/18/2013 11:53 AM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:51:02 -0500, amdx wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-15/cost-of-college-degree-in-u-s-soars-12-fold-chart-of-the-day.html Extreme college costs are due in a large part to the same philosophy of the mortgage mess. Everyone should be entitled to a college education so we'll (the gov't) will give people money to go. SO, the colleges see this as a cash cow and raise tuition. AND take a look at consumables, like text books, insanely costly. You said it iboaterer, Gov't has caused the explosive rise in college costs. And the mortgage mess was caused by the gov't too! I was so wrong I thought your answer for everything was more government. Healthcare inflation is next, but I'm sure you think that will be different. Mikek You're a ****in idiot. You are one angry liberal. Everything is going your way and you're still mad. You are one stupid ****. Calm down, I don't want to be responsible for a stroke! Mikek Then take your meds you ****ing moron. Never heard of taking personal responsibility? I thought that's what all your freaks insist on. Does your anger ever end? Please relax, find peace within. Stop and smell the roses. Does calling others negative names improve your self esteem? Are you angry that others would take personal responsibility? You seem to put a negative spin on personal responsibility. Have a great day, Mikek |
Brewing economic scandal
On 3/20/2013 7:48 AM, amdx wrote:
On 3/18/2013 6:29 PM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:46:22 -0500, amdx wrote: On 3/18/2013 11:53 AM, Urin Asshole wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:51:02 -0500, amdx wrote: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-15/cost-of-college-degree-in-u-s-soars-12-fold-chart-of-the-day.html Extreme college costs are due in a large part to the same philosophy of the mortgage mess. Everyone should be entitled to a college education so we'll (the gov't) will give people money to go. SO, the colleges see this as a cash cow and raise tuition. AND take a look at consumables, like text books, insanely costly. You said it iboaterer, Gov't has caused the explosive rise in college costs. And the mortgage mess was caused by the gov't too! I was so wrong I thought your answer for everything was more government. Healthcare inflation is next, but I'm sure you think that will be different. Mikek You're a ****in idiot. You are one angry liberal. Everything is going your way and you're still mad. You are one stupid ****. Calm down, I don't want to be responsible for a stroke! Mikek Then take your meds you ****ing moron. Never heard of taking personal responsibility? I thought that's what all your freaks insist on. Does your anger ever end? Please relax, find peace within. Stop and smell the roses. Does calling others negative names improve your self esteem? Are you angry that others would take personal responsibility? You seem to put a negative spin on personal responsibility. Have a great day, Mikek kevin, harry, don, and jps are cut from exactly the same mold... |
Brewing economic scandal
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 00:19:55 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 15:20:40 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: Conversely, I've known people who barely made it out of high school apply themselves in work endeavors with tenacity, making themselves very valuable employees in the process. Not knocking college. It's a valuable key to one's career, but it's not the only key. ==== Absolutely right. Education and knowledge are only valuable to the extent that you can use them effectively to accomplish something else. Almost everyone has met an educated fool at one time or another. Perhaps, but never a liberally artsy educated fool! Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
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