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"Meyer" wrote in message
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On 3/18/2013 1:36 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
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Therefore, **** college education, right? What bull****.

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So, tell us. Where did you go to school? University of ****ology?


Are you OK. You never used to say things like that. It's his schtick
not
yours.

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Just trying to communicate in his native tongue.

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:54:02 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute
wrote:

On 3/18/2013 1:13 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 01:56:54 -0400, wrote:

Anyone who can fix engines in boats will always have work.

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Yes, and at $85+/hour.


LOL, how much of that goes to the guy with dirty nails:) ??

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It depends. Some guys take it all but pay for there own shop, truck
and benefits. Some guys get 25%. Even at 25% it's a halfway decent
living, and the smart, motivated guys save up and plan for going on
their own.

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On 3/18/13 5:49 PM, J Herring wrote:
On 18 Mar 2013 21:31:05 GMT, F.O.A.D. wrote:

J Herring wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:52:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

On 3/18/13 4:00 PM, Boating All Out wrote:

I think a liberal arts degree is a good thing, but the price has to be
right, and you have to be able to swing that way. Many people just have
no interest in literature, poetry, art, or any of the humanities.
Hopefully HS will at least expose them to that.



In modern usage, the term "liberal arts" includes course of study that
lead to degrees in many fields, including linguistics, language, math,
psychology, various fields of science and of course studies in
literature, history, philosophy, art, religion and many others.

Most who get a degree in the so-called liberal arts expect to and
actually do go on to graduate school for a master's and possibly a
doctorate. Liberal arts grads get either degrees in the "arts" or the
"sciences."

For most students, the degree sought is consider no more than an entree
into a field or profession. As an example, it's doubtful you could get
even a decent entry level job in "psychology" without a master's degree.

If he's going for a degree in math, he's got to start with math - or add
a few semesters for wasting
his time.


Salmonbait

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'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.

Math is considered one of the liberal arts.

A BA in Math? Never heard of it. But, I don't get around near as much as some folks.


Salmonbait

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'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort.


The initialism of the degree doesn't determine whether it is a liberal
arts degree. There are liberal arts degrees where the initialism is B.S.
and M.S. Math would be one of those. My wife has a B.S. and an M.S., in
addition to her Ph.D., and her field falls into the purview of liberal
arts.

The traditional sciences -biology, math, et cetera. are all considered
liberal arts.

I get such a chuckle when the semi-literates knock liberal arts degrees.
Many courses of study fall under the purview of liberal arts.

Oh, here's something from the Tufts' school of architectu

"Tufts' architectural studies program, representing a liberal arts
approach to architecture and distinguished by the concentration's
requirement that students take classes in multiple disciplines from
architectural history and studio design to engineering, the humanities,
and social sciences. This multidisciplinary curriculum takes full
advantage of Tufts' unique assets for a liberal arts college, including
the university's engineering school, its graduate department in urban
and environmental planning and policy, and its affiliation with the
School of the Museum of Fine Arts. As a capstone senior majors in their
final semester complete a senior integrative project, either as an
independent research project or an internship in a professional office."

http://tinyurl.com/czdspdq

I get such a chuckle when the semi-literates knock liberal arts degrees.
Many courses of study fall under the purview of liberal arts.

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On 3/18/13 6:09 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Meyer" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 3/18/2013 1:36 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Urin Asshole" wrote in message
...


Therefore, **** college education, right? What bull****.

--------------------------------

So, tell us. Where did you go to school? University of ****ology?


Are you OK. You never used to say things like that. It's his schtick not
yours.

-----------------------------------------------

Just trying to communicate in his native tongue.




Are you trying to imitate "Mired"?

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In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

Yeah, it's all about the money, then when a new techology comes
around, you can kiss that job goodbye.

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This is not a new thing. Talk to the buggy whip manufacturers, wagon
wheel makers, blacksmiths, vacuum tube makers, Kodak film developers,
etc.

The time are always a-changein.

Exactly, continuing education is a MUST in most professions. In a lot of
professions, it's the law.

Just because you have a job in a specific field doesn't mean that you
will be able to stay in the field your entire career.

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:44:54 -0500, amdx wrote:


What's ****ing stupid ****.

You are so angry your sentence isn't making sense.
Calm down.
Have a happy day, Mikek :-)


Only to ****ing stupid ****s like you.

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:27:07 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:51:32 -0700, Urin Asshole
wrote:

You do
realize that you're tied to the debt for life.. can't get out of it
through bankruptsy.

All the more reason to think before you just jump into that obligation
for a degree that may not help you find a job.

Which has nothing to do with getting an education, despite the
backwoods concept of making manual labor the law of your life.

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:02:48 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:29:05 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There are many ways to go to college without having to be in debt for
the rest of your life.
It's just not quite as "easy" and you have to work for it or give
something in return.

I think a big part of the problem is that our dismal K-12 system does
not prepare kids to go to college. They are not academically prepared
or mature enough for the experience so we simply dumb down the
college. Four year degrees typically take 5 years.

We always hear about the GI bill and how that kick started the economy
after WWII but what they don't say is those students were mature war
veterans who did not have time for the foolishness that pervades most
campuses. They went there and studied.

So, you're claiming the IRaq vets aren't mature? Should we help them??
How about those who didn't want to die in Afganistan, so they didn't
volunteer to be slaughtered.. I guess they're good for nothings.

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:54:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:



wrote in message ...

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:29:05 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There are many ways to go to college without having to be in debt for
the rest of your life.
It's just not quite as "easy" and you have to work for it or give
something in return.

I think a big part of the problem is that our dismal K-12 system does
not prepare kids to go to college. They are not academically prepared
or mature enough for the experience so we simply dumb down the
college. Four year degrees typically take 5 years.

We always hear about the GI bill and how that kick started the economy
after WWII but what they don't say is those students were mature war
veterans who did not have time for the foolishness that pervades most
campuses. They went there and studied.

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Couldn't agree more. I started college right after high school at 18
years old. I was not mature enough and frankly didn't really *want*
to go.
So, I dropped out, got a job building Boston Whalers (back when they
were in Rockland, MA) and within 2 months received a draft notice.
This was in 1968. Knowing where I'd be likely heading, I booked it
down to the Navy recruiter and enlisted.

After a very brief exposure to the Vietnam experience, I started
going to school under a military tuition assistance program, while
still on active duty.
I attended classes in local colleges or universities during my time
off at locations that participated in the program. This went on for
the next 9 years and I finished up after being discharged under the GI
bill. Plus, in the field I chose to pursue (electronics engineering)
the electronic schools run by the Navy were actually better than the
ones at the colleges. Much more practical and you weren't carrying a
bunch of electives that had nothing to do with your future career.
Anyway, it worked out great but I had to serve 9 years .... actually
11 years counting two years in the reserves ... to get there.

Looking back now, I wouldn't change it for anything. Many great
experiences, lived in foreign lands absorbing their cultures and was
exposed to a lot more than what you will get in a typical four year
curriculum.

Military tuition. Hmmm.. sounds socialist to me. Of course, we could
reeinstitute the draft. That'll motivate the kids. Sheesh.

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On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:28 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:54:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

think a big part of the problem is that our dismal K-12 system does
not prepare kids to go to college. They are not academically prepared
or mature enough for the experience so we simply dumb down the
college. Four year degrees typically take 5 years.

We always hear about the GI bill and how that kick started the economy
after WWII but what they don't say is those students were mature war
veterans who did not have time for the foolishness that pervades most
campuses. They went there and studied.

----------------------------------------------

Couldn't agree more. I started college right after high school at 18
years old. I was not mature enough and frankly didn't really *want*
to go.
So, I dropped out, got a job building Boston Whalers (back when they
were in Rockland, MA) and within 2 months received a draft notice.
This was in 1968. Knowing where I'd be likely heading, I booked it
down to the Navy recruiter and enlisted.

After a very brief exposure to the Vietnam experience, I started
going to school under a military tuition assistance program, while
still on active duty.
I attended classes in local colleges or universities during my time
off at locations that participated in the program. This went on for
the next 9 years and I finished up after being discharged under the GI
bill. Plus, in the field I chose to pursue (electronics engineering)
the electronic schools run by the Navy were actually better than the
ones at the colleges. Much more practical and you weren't carrying a
bunch of electives that had nothing to do with your future career.
Anyway, it worked out great but I had to serve 9 years .... actually
11 years counting two years in the reserves ... to get there.

Looking back now, I wouldn't change it for anything. Many great
experiences, lived in foreign lands absorbing their cultures and was
exposed to a lot more than what you will get in a typical four year
curriculum.

I was a horrible student before I went into the military. I did what
it took to pass. That was pretty much what I saw going on around me
too.
It did not take long before I figured out grades were important to the
military and I was the top recruit in boot camp and tutoring others in
FT school. I had a whole lot easier life.
Since then I am always at or near the top of my class.

I think most students would be well served by going to a military
school a while before they start college. You might start seeing "4
year" degrees in 2 or 3 years from those people.
The university system would never put up with it because there is a
lot of money in it for them to make college as slow as they can. You
pay by the hour not by the degree

I get it! More guns. That's the motivation. Give me a ****ing break.
You clearly don't give a **** about anyone else's life experience.
What about getting shot at in the inner city? I guess that doesn't
count.