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Brewing economic scandal
"iBoaterer" wrote in message
... In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:27:03 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: "Urin Asshole" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:11:42 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:03:21 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:18:29 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:23:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 11:58:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: That is how much the state charges the lucky winner of the lottery but the number of licenses are limited and they become instantly more valuable once you own one. Depending on what county you live in and the demand the sky is the limit when you want to buy one. Typically the state requires you to actually operate under the license for a while before you can sell it, to avoid speculators. Cite? Which state? You said Florida. You can just google this yourself if you want Try cost liquor license state I did, and posted the fees for Florida. You didn't look far enough to see they only issue new licenses every 10 years after each census (if the population actually goes up) and they are doled out in a lottery. After that it is a seller's market. The average price for a license is up in 6 figures depending in which county you are talking about Only resale maybe. The license costs have already be documented, you're just trying to slime your way out of being wrong. That is the only place you can get a license unless you win it in the once a decade lottery. Which has nothing to do with getting a license from the state. Something you're trying to claim you never said. Well, as usual, you talk in generalities with no justification. It's like claiming that it costs hundreds of dollars to pay a round of golf. Well, yeah, if you including buying clubs. The license is a couple of grand maybe, depending on the type. Then when you get it you'll have an investment opportunity. Try making some sense next time. ========================== Depending on the county in California that couple of grand could be 100 grand. About 45 years ago, friend ran a liquor store in Concord, CA. He and wife had a great week. Went to Las Vegas and came back with a $1000 more than they left town with after all expenses, and they both entered the liquor license lotto. Both got drawn. At that time the lotto was about $200 to enter and I think the license was about $5000. You had to run the new store for a year before the license could be transferred to someone else. At that time a license in Contra Costa County sold for about $100,000, plus the store stock. I think there was about a 2% chance of winning in the lotto. That is the real cost of a license, not the state sold cost, which is near impossible to get. San Francisco licenses are actually cheap, and you can not transfer out of county. They are issued per number of residents and during WW2 SF had a huge population, so lots of licenses were issued. Much smaller population now, but number of licenses does not decrease. Nope. Not true. The cost is the Fed, state, and local fees and doesn't add up to 100K. A few thousand.. that's it. Private sales are different, but that has nothing to do with getting a license. I love you're quoting something from 45 years ago... like that has any relevence. It's like saying the real cost of getting a license plate sticker includes the price of the car. Complete bs. You and Gretwel should get a room. Well that's pure horse**** that he wrote anyway. In CA every grocery store sells liquor. No need for liquor stores. ---------------- Grocery stores also have to have an off sale liquor license. So that gets them in the bidding wars also. |
Brewing economic scandal
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... In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:56:43 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Look up this thread a ways. I posted an article in the paper that was complaining that the economy has driven the price down from $400k to a mere $175k. http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2011/...y-alcohol-fee/ One county makes up the whole state???? From YOUR cite: In Florida, the state only gets money from the sale of a quota license when the license is first issued through the lottery system. The lottery winner pays a one-time fee of $10,750 in addition to the annual license cost I can go to one of the auction sites and see what the other counties are doing. I bet it is as expensive around Jacksonville, Miami, Tampa Bay and Orlando tho. You might be able to catch a deal and get one for $90,000 in Dixie County but I would not bet on it.. What part of "quota" are you having trouble understanding? If you could just go down to the county clerk and plop down $10,750 and get a license, why would anyone pay $175,000? (BTW that is exactly the 10X UA said couldn't happen) They only release new licenses after a census shows the quota can rise. That is the lottery I spoke of, typically once every 10 years. I suspect that as the economy improves, the prices will go up again. The above is speculation. These are the facts: First of all, you are only thinking about one type of Florida liquor license, the "quota license". The second liquor license Florida offers is an SRX, a special restaurant license that can be applied for year-round if 51 percent or more of sales at an establishment is food. FURTHERMORE, there are 54 subcategories of licenses based on the type of business you own. He http://www.florida-liquorlicense.com/html/faqs.html -------------------- And I bet the SRX is like an On Sale license in Calif. What the bars and restaurants have. They can sell wine and whiskey by the drink. You can not buy a bottle to go. Very different than a liquor store license. |
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:18:57 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: You have never dealt with the welfare poor from what I see. They knew all the angles. We would hire welfare people to clean up the storage yard at times. Now these are 4 or 5th generation welfare recipients. Some would state they would work for free for us for the day if we gave them a check for say $350 and they would sign it back to us. Gave them enough income to go back on unemployment for 6 months. We never did, as against my principals. You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the loafers). They would do a better job. I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them --------------------- We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we always had to watch for INS in out business. |
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:22:10 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: What happened to the Social Liberal - Fiscal Conservative? Seems as if both parties are neither. They are Libertarians ---------------- Not really. |
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:27:49 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/23/13 11:09 AM, wrote: On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life experience." Yes I am. Most people in academia went to school when they were five and never left, retiring there sixty years later. It is one of the worst examples of vertical integration in the world. You mean, like being a physician? We're friends with two of my wife's professors from grad school, two aging ladies in their 80s now who have done more and seen more than you or I have. For 40 years, they've run a series of orphanages in China and other countries in that area of the world, mostly for "unwanted" girl babies and toddlers, and those operations required frequent trips abroad and sometimes nasty confrontations with the various governments, including that of Red China. They recently retired as Professors Emeritus. Oh, they're nuns. How do your real life experiences compare? Another of my friends, a fellow who sadly recently died, was on the faculty of a major university in the MidWest and also was deeply involved in Polish efforts to remove the communist government there, and in similar anti-dictatorship movements in other parts of the country, such as El Salvador. He was shot several times and imprisoned twice aboard. How do your real life experiences compare to my university buddy? You're just anti-academia. Those are very unusual educators. My daughter's father in law agrees with me and he was a professor for 30 years (recently retired) I can give you his name offline, you may have some mutual acquaintances. He is the one that told me they do not teach you job skills. Your sample size was too small to reach any conclusions. |
Brewing economic scandal
On 3/24/13 12:52 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:38:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life experience." Yes I am. Most people in academia went to school when they were five and never left, retiring there sixty years later. It is one of the worst examples of vertical integration in the world. Teaching children is somehow less "real life experience" than, say, being an accountant how? If what you are telling them in the classroom is not relevant to what they see when they get their first job, they did not get the benefit of someone who has actually worked in that field. That's like telling an advertising copywriter he cannot write good copy about a feminine hygiene product because he personally doesn't use them. Of course he can. There's research available, there are women to interview, et cetera. What real world experience does a top level professor of theoretical physics require in order to be a better teacher? |
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Brewing economic scandal
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says... On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:47:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:11:23 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: Nope. Not true. The cost is the Fed, state, and local fees and doesn't add up to 100K. A few thousand.. that's it. Private sales are different, but that has nothing to do with getting a license. They have a quota on those licenses and they are mostly sold in the private markets. I have already pointed out that occasionally the state ups the quota and you can get in the lottery for one but that is literally a crap shoot. http://www.florida-liquorlicense.com/html/faqs.html Do you actually read these links "HOW CAN I OBTAIN A LICENSE TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES? A retail liquor license for use in a package store, bar, or small restaurant must be purchased from a present quota license owner." What part of "must be purchased from a present quota license owner." is hard to understand. Holy ****!!!!! Did you even SEE the other *54* WAYS to obtain one? |
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