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Brewing economic scandal
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:49:59 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 3/24/13 11:36 AM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:09:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites around here are Latinos. Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites. Salmonbait Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos? They are the ones who are not updating their twitter feed and texting with their girl friends all day. Anglo kids really just do not want to do this work and it is reflected in their productivity. When we did our addition I wanted to avoid any drywall so it is concrete block and stucco on both sides. I had a Mexican guy who finished the inside walls so smooth you would really believe it was skim coated drywall. After the crash, when most of the Mexicans went home, I had the "boss" of that crew (anglo) come back and recoat a wall because I had cut a door in it and made a window smaller. All I can say is, it's a good thing we went with a underwater paint scheme because the "waves" are in the stucco. Your comments about twittering and "Anglo" kids are absurd. There are plenty of highly qualified plasterers of all ethnic backgrounds. If you don't have any in your area, it is because your contractors forced them out of the job market by hiring possibly undocumented foreign workers willing to work for much less, without benefits, in our country's dive to the bottom. No ****. That's the whole point. Perhaps if there were fewer millions of 'undocumented foreign workers' (sic), that is, illegal aliens, running around, there'd be more jobs available for those forced out of the job market. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. |
Brewing economic scandal
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says... On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:33:21 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 12:52 AM, wrote: On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:38:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:23:37 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: Surely you are not saying that teachers are bereft of "real life experience." Yes I am. Most people in academia went to school when they were five and never left, retiring there sixty years later. It is one of the worst examples of vertical integration in the world. Teaching children is somehow less "real life experience" than, say, being an accountant how? If what you are telling them in the classroom is not relevant to what they see when they get their first job, they did not get the benefit of someone who has actually worked in that field. That's like telling an advertising copywriter he cannot write good copy about a feminine hygiene product because he personally doesn't use them. Of course he can. There's research available, there are women to interview, et cetera. What real world experience does a top level professor of theoretical physics require in order to be a better teacher? I suppose the question ends up being, how many people can actually make a living in theoretical physics? Quite a few. Many, many courses such as that translate well into fields that you'd never imagine, medicine, different types of engineering, and on and on. After all, the study of physics IS the study of matter and that entails everything around us. |
Brewing economic scandal
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says... On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:09:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:47:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:11:23 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: Nope. Not true. The cost is the Fed, state, and local fees and doesn't add up to 100K. A few thousand.. that's it. Private sales are different, but that has nothing to do with getting a license. They have a quota on those licenses and they are mostly sold in the private markets. I have already pointed out that occasionally the state ups the quota and you can get in the lottery for one but that is literally a crap shoot. http://www.florida-liquorlicense.com/html/faqs.html Do you actually read these links "HOW CAN I OBTAIN A LICENSE TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES? A retail liquor license for use in a package store, bar, or small restaurant must be purchased from a present quota license owner." What part of "must be purchased from a present quota license owner." is hard to understand. Holy ****!!!!! Did you even SEE the other *54* WAYS to obtain one? None of them would allow you to own a liquor store Bull****. |
Brewing economic scandal
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says... On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:49:59 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 11:36 AM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:09:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites around here are Latinos. Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites. Salmonbait Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos? They are the ones who are not updating their twitter feed and texting with their girl friends all day. Anglo kids really just do not want to do this work and it is reflected in their productivity. When we did our addition I wanted to avoid any drywall so it is concrete block and stucco on both sides. I had a Mexican guy who finished the inside walls so smooth you would really believe it was skim coated drywall. After the crash, when most of the Mexicans went home, I had the "boss" of that crew (anglo) come back and recoat a wall because I had cut a door in it and made a window smaller. All I can say is, it's a good thing we went with a underwater paint scheme because the "waves" are in the stucco. Your comments about twittering and "Anglo" kids are absurd. There are plenty of highly qualified plasterers of all ethnic backgrounds. If you don't have any in your area, it is because your contractors forced them out of the job market by hiring possibly undocumented foreign workers willing to work for much less, without benefits, in our country's dive to the bottom. No ****. That's the whole point. Perhaps if there were fewer millions of 'undocumented foreign workers' (sic), that is, illegal aliens, running around, there'd be more jobs available for those forced out of the job market. Salmonbait But, but, Greg just said that the "Anglos" don't want the jobs..... |
Brewing economic scandal
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:09:36 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:47:46 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:11:23 -0700, Urin Asshole wrote: Nope. Not true. The cost is the Fed, state, and local fees and doesn't add up to 100K. A few thousand.. that's it. Private sales are different, but that has nothing to do with getting a license. They have a quota on those licenses and they are mostly sold in the private markets. I have already pointed out that occasionally the state ups the quota and you can get in the lottery for one but that is literally a crap shoot. http://www.florida-liquorlicense.com/html/faqs.html Do you actually read these links "HOW CAN I OBTAIN A LICENSE TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES? A retail liquor license for use in a package store, bar, or small restaurant must be purchased from a present quota license owner." What part of "must be purchased from a present quota license owner." is hard to understand. Holy ****!!!!! Did you even SEE the other *54* WAYS to obtain one? None of them would allow you to own a liquor store ------------------- You could own a liquor store. As the landlord, but not selling liquor legally. |
Brewing economic scandal
On 3/24/2013 10:38 AM, J Herring wrote:
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:06:15 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/24/13 10:03 AM, Califbill wrote: wrote in message ... On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:40:55 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: You should have just hired latinos. (the working guys, not the loafers). They would do a better job. I do understand that in California you have a lot of people coming over the border for free stuff but most of the Latinos here in Florida just come for a job. That is why my wife and I like them --------------------- We were in an area where the Latino's were not really available, and we always had to watch for INS in out business. That is a huge problem here too. The papers these guys have are perfect and they have a way of tricking E-verify. There are still plenty of legal folks tho. You just have to do your due diligence and hope it all works out. ------------------ we were hiring temp, casual labor. Our drivers were legal. Some worthless, but legal. The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites around here are Latinos. Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites. Salmonbait -- 'Name-calling'...the liberals' last resort. They work for 1/4 union scale and output 3 times the work. |
Brewing economic scandal
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says... On 3/24/13 11:36 AM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:09:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The hardest working people I see on residential construction sites around here are Latinos. Primarily because they're the *only* working people on the sites. Salmonbait Really? No one else on any construction site works other than Latinos? They are the ones who are not updating their twitter feed and texting with their girl friends all day. Anglo kids really just do not want to do this work and it is reflected in their productivity. When we did our addition I wanted to avoid any drywall so it is concrete block and stucco on both sides. I had a Mexican guy who finished the inside walls so smooth you would really believe it was skim coated drywall. After the crash, when most of the Mexicans went home, I had the "boss" of that crew (anglo) come back and recoat a wall because I had cut a door in it and made a window smaller. All I can say is, it's a good thing we went with a underwater paint scheme because the "waves" are in the stucco. Your comments about twittering and "Anglo" kids are absurd. There are plenty of highly qualified plasterers of all ethnic backgrounds. If you don't have any in your area, it is because your contractors forced them out of the job market by hiring possibly undocumented foreign workers willing to work for much less, without benefits, in our country's dive to the bottom. The contractor who handles our heavy yard work and, when we have snow, plowing, is Mexican. His crews are comprised of Mexicans and "Anglos." They all work very hard. I'm sure most of them have girlfriends, too. A few college-level stat courses taught by one of those ivory towered professors might cure you of trying to draw universal truths from too few data points. :) This anti-"Anglo youth" thing of Greg's is pretty crazy. Probably due his wife's history of squeezing undocumented Latinos for cheap work. Work hard for cheap with the implicit threat of ICE hanging over your head. Money in Greg's pocket. Almost everything is economic unless you rise above it. Most find that difficult, including me. But I don't let it shade my sense of reality. Kids of all ethnic backgrounds are a product of their parents and their economic background. Greg seems to think Mexicans have a special "work gene." Crazy stuff. Then uses an example of an "Anglo boss" not doing as good a job as a guy who is more practiced, and maybe just more skilled, to "prove" it. He doesn't understand it's all about demographics and getting the cheapest labor. Networking too, which is just as important in the "unskilled" world as it is elsewhere. Bossman needs 3 more workers. Does he put an ad in the paper? If he's only half smart he goes to his good workers and has them recruit for him. Win-win. Of course Greg expects an Anglo citizen to work cheaply alongside the undocumented Mexicans, learn Spanish, and keep his head down. That would work if he could deport the Anglo citizen. He can't. It's some crazy "racist' stuff, essentially saying that "Anglos" have no work ethic. If it wasn't so incredibly stupid, I would resent it. As an aside, where undocumented workers are absent, things aren't falling apart. Citizens of all ethnic backgrounds do the jobs just fine. But generally the cost of living is higher. There's nothing conclusive that I've seen, but I suspect that an illegal work force will increase crime of the area they exist within. Not because the "illegals" themselves are committing crime, but because more citizens fall into poverty due to jobs being taken, and turn to crime. But that's just my speculation, and I might be wrong. |
Brewing economic scandal
On Monday, March 25, 2013 11:46:07 AM UTC-4, wrote:
OTOH my wife's country club has a health care plan for employees, even the landscape guys. They have a 401k program with employer match. I am amazed at the number of people who won't participate., As a CPA, my wife has seen first hand how these kinds of workers treat their 401k's when they participate. They use them as saving accounts, taking money out of them all the time. Even some fairly well paid workers. |
Brewing economic scandal
On 3/25/13 7:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 15:40:10 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 3/25/13 1:20 PM, wrote: The smaller operations are usually SPs and they don't have much in the way of benefits. I am sure it is the same way up there. I know when I put on an addition in the mid 70s (Clinton Md), the concrete/masonry contractor was a family business and the guy who ran my gutters was a one man show. I did the rest myself. My nieces hubby worked for Ryan Homes a while and he did not get any benefits but the operating engineers covered him. Basically, we are devolving into a pensionless, healthcareless society of day workers. A 401k is not a defined benefit pension plan. I think the demographics of the baby boomers is threatening all of the pension plans, including SS. I am still wondering what happens to the equities market when the boomers cash out their 401k and we really start seeing pressure on the defined benefit pension plans? That is money leaving the market and will not return/ I don't see much of a future for this country with a disenfranchised middle class working at lower wages with no prospect of any sort of retirement. A society that exists only for the very wealthy cannot and should not survive. |
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