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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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5.com says... On 4/13/2012 4:47 PM, JustWait wrote: On 4/13/2012 1:00 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:31:41 -0400, wrote: In , says... The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking INTO cars. So you automatically believe everything Zimmerman says, regardless of the audio of the phone call he was on to his girlfriend? Figures. We only have 2 statements from what the girlfriend said, starting with MARTIN initiating the confrontation and Zimmerman answering, then the phone went dead. We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school. Was he charged with anything? Is this just hearsay? The "burglary tool" in question was a screwdriver. It's a rough neighborhood where he went to school, it could have been to defend himself. Funny thing, his parents never heard about the alleged jewelry and "burglary tool" screwdriver, just the graffiti. The cops were still investigating when Martin was shot but cops do not really investigate burglaries. That is why 99% are unsolved. ... and are you saying Martin brought a WEAPON into the school? That is a felony right there. Never heard or just aren't saying? Oh and the pot, another felony. (any drugs within 1000' of a school, zero tolerance, no lower limit) This kid was dodging bullets, being a small time thug until he ran into a bullet he couldn't dodge. With the path he was on he was going to die face down in a pool of blood, or go to jail. It was just a question of when If this case gets to the point where they can rebut some statement about what an angel Martin was I bet a lot more will come out about his past. The defense certainly will have the chance to show any other violence in Martin's past to reinforce the idea that he attacked Zimmerman. No marks on him, nothing. No marks on Martin? The police report says Zimmerman was injured (bleeding from the nose and back of the head) I also don't buy this "child" thing. After all Martin was less than a year away from being able to "join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages" (as Arlo would say) And this has what to do with the case? Age has no meaning here. It certainly makes the "child" thing less relevant. He was almost a head taller than Zimmerman and at night, could have been pretty fearsome. Particularly sitting on him banging his head on the ground. That is the legal test, "fear" Bout time somebody made a judgement based on the real evidence we have available, and not the distorted and edited versions from MSNBC and the other race baiters who got on to this case dishonestly... Do you remember before Harry had a bunch of guns, he used to try to intimidate folks by calling out his height 3 or 4 times a day. Heavy boned fat guys like him shrink up fast once they reach their 60s. I'll bet he's right around 6 foot now. With that Elmer Fudd hair do he must be quite a site to behold. He most likely has that creepy stalker starting just above the ear comb- over. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
In article , lid says...
On 4/13/2012 12:32 PM, wrote: Zimmerman shouldn't have shot him, but because of the law he may just walk. That much we can agree on. The question is why did Florida charge him with 2nd degree murder instead of something else? The standard for 2nd degree murder is much hard to get a conviction on than 3rd degree or manslaughter. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
In article 2022102235356034752.831642evil-
, says... wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:06:33 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/13/12 1:01 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:33:12 -0400, wrote: In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to take... How do you know for a fact that he even was looking into cars? Oh, right, you just automatically believe Zimmerman's side because FOX tells you to. I heard the police call, It is online dozens of places. You mean, of course, that you heard what Zimmerman told the police, right? That would be the same Zimmerman who beat his wife and got arrested at a bar for interfering with a law enforcement officer who was arresting a bar employee who served booze to minors? That Zimmerman, right? He called the police over 40 times and never shot anyone. There was something different here and it was the actions of Martin Yeah, right. Sure. That must be it. The proof is in the results. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
In article , lid says...
On 4/13/2012 10:12 AM, wrote: The police DISPATCHER (not a real officer) just said "we don't NEED you to do that" which only says he was not being told he was being asked to follow Martin, not that he couldn't. I think this is biased interpretation. Granted the choice of words was unfortunate but the intended meaning of the dispatcher was quite clear. Don't follow. The fact is that the dispatcher said what the dispatcher said. The policy and procedure manual for the 911 operators will be reviewed and analyzed. Your interpretation is your interpretation and it is made with the luxury of time and safety. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/14/12 9:03 AM, BAR wrote:
In raweb.com, 5@ 5.com says... On 4/13/2012 1:00 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/13/12 12:47 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:42:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, wrote: On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Whatever else is involved, there is no disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was precipitated by Zimmerman. I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note). In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive. Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat. A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street. He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-) We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting beaten before he pulled his gat. Harry does not have a Maryland Concealed Carry Permit. Harry may have a Maryland Collectors Permit which allows him to purchase more than one hand gun a month. A Maryland Collectors Permit does not allow one to carry a concealed weapon/gun. Harry may have a Concealed Carry Permit from another state but those are not recognized in Maryland at this time. Don't believe everything Harry says. Maryland does have a concealed carry permit but they are very hard to get and they get reviewed fairly frequently to insure that you still have the "danger" that allowed you to get the permit in the first place. I do know a few licensed collectors up there, including machine guns but that is a whole different thing. It's easy to get a permit for an automatic weapon. I have no need or use for one, but I have friends who own a couple. As for the CCW permit, it is amazing what you can do with a good quality liberal arts edu-ma-ca-shun. So you do admit you lied/fabricated/ streched the truth, or what ever you want to call it? He will use hes "good quality liberal arts edu-ma-ca-shun" to redefine the definition of possess. Your sour grapes are showing again. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/13/2012 10:42 PM, thumper wrote:
On 4/13/2012 10:12 AM, wrote: The police DISPATCHER (not a real officer) just said "we don't NEED you to do that" which only says he was not being told he was being asked to follow Martin, not that he couldn't. I think this is biased interpretation. Granted the choice of words was unfortunate but the intended meaning of the dispatcher was quite clear. Don't follow. And as far as we all know, he didn't... he turned to go back to his car and was jumped. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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forums@vbth19, says... On Friday, April 13, 2012 3:14:26 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article 8305837.15.1334340223620.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@vbgj4, says... On Friday, April 13, 2012 1:06:33 PM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote: On 4/13/12 1:01 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:33:12 -0400, wrote: In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to take... How do you know for a fact that he even was looking into cars? Oh, right, you just automatically believe Zimmerman's side because FOX tells you to. I heard the police call, It is online dozens of places. You mean, of course, that you heard what Zimmerman told the police, right? That would be the same Zimmerman who beat his wife and got arrested at a bar for interfering with a law enforcement officer who was arresting a bar employee who served booze to minors? That Zimmerman, right? You mean what he told police about a 17 year old wanna-be gangbanger that was suspended from school for drugs and drug pipe, had possession of stolen jewelry and burgulary tools, was looking into cars evidently scouting for items to steal? That one? Now, where did you get the wanna-be gangbanger nonsense? As for the other ****, hearsay. Note once again, slowly, his school has a zero tolerance rule in place. He was never, ever charged with anything. The "burglary tool" you and FOX keep aluding to was a screwdriver. Therefore, I'll bet YOU are in possesion of "burglary tools" and should be shot to death? You have proof he wasn't a gangbanger? Cite please. You may want to read his twitter posts and see some facebook stuff that is out there. Some was saved before it was taken down. YOU are the one who said he was one. So, you show ME. Other stuff is not hearsay, it is in evidence. A screwdriver can't be used for a burglary tool? When in your possession with a bag of jewelry that "a friend gave" him, that's pretty suspect, right? Why would he have those items in his packpack? What difference would it make if it WERE a burglary tool? Zimmerman knew nothing about that. If you really believe he was an innocent alter boy, I have a bridge you might like to buy. But surely you're just posing to be this gullible for argument's sake, right? Where did I say he was an innocent altar boy? I can't find it. But that still doesn't justify Zimmerman's actions. Zimmerman shouldn't have shot him, but because of the law he may just walk. Either way, you're playing the part of the court jester. It's getting old. What the hell are you blathering about? You on the other hand are hear acting like the kid should have gotten killed because he got in a little trouble at school. What about Zimmerman's past? You sure aren't holding him in a bad light are you? |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
In article , says...
On 4/13/2012 1:00 PM, wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:31:41 -0400, wrote: In , says... The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking INTO cars. So you automatically believe everything Zimmerman says, regardless of the audio of the phone call he was on to his girlfriend? Figures. We only have 2 statements from what the girlfriend said, starting with MARTIN initiating the confrontation and Zimmerman answering, then the phone went dead. We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school. Was he charged with anything? Is this just hearsay? The "burglary tool" in question was a screwdriver. It's a rough neighborhood where he went to school, it could have been to defend himself. Funny thing, his parents never heard about the alleged jewelry and "burglary tool" screwdriver, just the graffiti. The cops were still investigating when Martin was shot but cops do not really investigate burglaries. That is why 99% are unsolved. ... and are you saying Martin brought a WEAPON into the school? That is a felony right there. Never heard or just aren't saying? Oh and the pot, another felony. (any drugs within 1000' of a school, zero tolerance, no lower limit) This kid was dodging bullets, being a small time thug until he ran into a bullet he couldn't dodge. With the path he was on he was going to die face down in a pool of blood, or go to jail. It was just a question of when If this case gets to the point where they can rebut some statement about what an angel Martin was I bet a lot more will come out about his past. The defense certainly will have the chance to show any other violence in Martin's past to reinforce the idea that he attacked Zimmerman. No marks on him, nothing. No marks on Martin? The police report says Zimmerman was injured (bleeding from the nose and back of the head) I also don't buy this "child" thing. After all Martin was less than a year away from being able to "join the army, burn women, kids, houses and villages" (as Arlo would say) And this has what to do with the case? Age has no meaning here. It certainly makes the "child" thing less relevant. He was almost a head taller than Zimmerman and at night, could have been pretty fearsome. Particularly sitting on him banging his head on the ground. That is the legal test, "fear" Bout time somebody made a judgement based on the real evidence we have available, and not the distorted and edited versions from MSNBC and the other race baiters who got on to this case dishonestly... Race baiters? YOU were the first one to bring up race. Oh, and you STILL have not told me how Sharpton and Jackson stand to "profit" from this. Cat got your tongue? And the victim's age makes no difference. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
In article , says...
On 4/13/2012 10:42 PM, thumper wrote: On 4/13/2012 10:12 AM, wrote: The police DISPATCHER (not a real officer) just said "we don't NEED you to do that" which only says he was not being told he was being asked to follow Martin, not that he couldn't. I think this is biased interpretation. Granted the choice of words was unfortunate but the intended meaning of the dispatcher was quite clear. Don't follow. And as far as we all know, he didn't... he turned to go back to his car and was jumped. How do you "know" that? |
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