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iBoaterer[_2_] April 17th 12 02:09 PM

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:04:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:51:38 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 09:41:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

What difference would it make if it WERE a burglary tool? Zimmerman knew
nothing about that.


Oh the old "I never saw that in my life, I don't know how it got in my
backpack" defense.

Again, how would something that the kid did in school in Miami have any
bearing on what Zimmerman did?

It will go the character of Martin when the judge has to decide
whether Zimmerman's story about being attacked is adjudicated in the
immunity hearing (before this ever gets to trial)

It certainly does seem to verify what Zimmerman "profiled" Martin to
be.
He was a druggie, thief according to what they found in his school bag

If Corey does get any traction with her "profiling" charge (the only
real meat in her affidavit) it will be a pyrrhic victory since
profiling is an important police tool and she might see that show up
in criminal defenses for he rest of her career.
She did not say "racial" profiling, just profiling


So, we can also profile Zimmerman as the short fused, argumentative,
easily enraged person he was, right?



We could if he had shot anyone on the other 47 police calls or even
brandished his gun.


Gee, that's odd, you want to profile Martin as something not even
proven, yet you don't want anyone profiling Zimmerman. Amazing.

iBoaterer[_2_] April 17th 12 02:09 PM

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 
In article , says...

On 4/15/2012 9:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:14:28 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/14/12 8:08 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:37 -0400, wrote:

In ,

He called the police over 40 times and never shot anyone. There was
something different here and it was the actions of Martin

Yeah, you're right. The guy was scared, he according to the phone
conversation with his girlfriend, tried to walk away fast. Now please,
you keep defending Zimmerman, so let's see this evidence you have that
"the actions of Martin" led to his death.

If you trust the girl friend, Martin never made a civil gesture to
explain who he was and why he was there.
After all, this is private property, behind gates and fences and
Martin was a stranger.
The fight appears to have started immediately after Zimmerman asked
"what are you doing here"? (again according to Martin's girlfriend.)
Presumably the question was answered with a punch in the nose.

I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is
not really true.
If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These
people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they
will not have strangers walking around.
Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the
grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they
are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking
across your patio.

I wouldn't have said a word to Zimmerman. I would have just kept on
walking to the house where a blood relative lived.

If Martin had done that it would just be another gone on arrival call
for the cops. Instead he chose to confront Zimmerman.


Gee, the FOXites seem to think that the lefties are making judgement
calls, but the above is just hearsay. You don't know the facts.

If the property is
that private, I wonder who is called when police or firemen are needed.

They pay their taxes., They call the cops and fire department just
like you would for your private property that you have said you would
kill over.


Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live
here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a
loaded firearm."

Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put
out on CNN


All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a
neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking
on the sidewalk.



Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain, would identify themselves
if they were strangers walking in a clearly posted private property and
questioned by someone representing the clearly posted neighborhood watch..


I wouldn't unless he identified HIMSELF.

iBoaterer[_2_] April 17th 12 02:11 PM

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 
In article , says...

On 4/16/2012 2:59 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote:


Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live
here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a
loaded firearm."

Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put
out on CNN

All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a
neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking
on the sidewalk.


They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted


He was on a public sidewalk and staying there with relatives.


He was on private property, and approached by neighborhood watch, which
was also clearly posted... Stop lying, really, you should at least read
one complete article about the actual facts.. Just one would save
everyone a lot of headache.


How in **** could he be trespassing if he was INVITED there, dip****?
Those damned facts just don't go well with your FOX bull****. What
"facts" are there? Okay, Martin was NOT trespassing. Martin was NOT
breaking any laws. Zimmerman approached him for no reason. Zimmerman
killed him.

JustWait[_2_] April 17th 12 02:13 PM

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 
On 4/17/2012 9:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 4/15/2012 9:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:14:28 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/14/12 8:08 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:37 -0400, wrote:

In ,

He called the police over 40 times and never shot anyone. There was
something different here and it was the actions of Martin

Yeah, you're right. The guy was scared, he according to the phone
conversation with his girlfriend, tried to walk away fast. Now please,
you keep defending Zimmerman, so let's see this evidence you have that
"the actions of Martin" led to his death.

If you trust the girl friend, Martin never made a civil gesture to
explain who he was and why he was there.
After all, this is private property, behind gates and fences and
Martin was a stranger.
The fight appears to have started immediately after Zimmerman asked
"what are you doing here"? (again according to Martin's girlfriend.)
Presumably the question was answered with a punch in the nose.

I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is
not really true.
If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These
people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they
will not have strangers walking around.
Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the
grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what they
are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were walking
across your patio.

I wouldn't have said a word to Zimmerman. I would have just kept on
walking to the house where a blood relative lived.

If Martin had done that it would just be another gone on arrival call
for the cops. Instead he chose to confront Zimmerman.

Gee, the FOXites seem to think that the lefties are making judgement
calls, but the above is just hearsay. You don't know the facts.

If the property is
that private, I wonder who is called when police or firemen are needed.

They pay their taxes., They call the cops and fire department just
like you would for your private property that you have said you would
kill over.


Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live
here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a
loaded firearm."

Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put
out on CNN

All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a
neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking
on the sidewalk.



Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain, would identify themselves
if they were strangers walking in a clearly posted private property and
questioned by someone representing the clearly posted neighborhood watch..


I wouldn't unless he identified HIMSELF.


Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain...


X ` Man[_3_] April 17th 12 02:15 PM

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 
On 4/17/12 9:13 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 4/17/2012 9:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 4/15/2012 9:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:14:28 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 4/14/12 8:08 PM,
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:37 -0400, wrote:

In ,

He called the police over 40 times and never shot anyone. There
was
something different here and it was the actions of Martin

Yeah, you're right. The guy was scared, he according to the phone
conversation with his girlfriend, tried to walk away fast. Now
please,
you keep defending Zimmerman, so let's see this evidence you
have that
"the actions of Martin" led to his death.

If you trust the girl friend, Martin never made a civil gesture to
explain who he was and why he was there.
After all, this is private property, behind gates and fences and
Martin was a stranger.
The fight appears to have started immediately after Zimmerman asked
"what are you doing here"? (again according to Martin's girlfriend.)
Presumably the question was answered with a punch in the nose.

I keep hearing that Martin did not need to explain **** but that is
not really true.
If you don't live in a gated community you do not understand. These
people pay thousands of dollars a year to live behind gates so they
will not have strangers walking around.
Every resident is part owner of that street, that sidewalk and the
grass in between. They have the same right to ask a stranger what
they
are doing there as you would have to ask someone why they were
walking
across your patio.

I wouldn't have said a word to Zimmerman. I would have just kept on
walking to the house where a blood relative lived.

If Martin had done that it would just be another gone on arrival call
for the cops. Instead he chose to confront Zimmerman.

Gee, the FOXites seem to think that the lefties are making judgement
calls, but the above is just hearsay. You don't know the facts.

If the property is
that private, I wonder who is called when police or firemen are
needed.

They pay their taxes., They call the cops and fire department just
like you would for your private property that you have said you would
kill over.


Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless
you live
here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a
loaded firearm."

Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put
out on CNN

All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a
neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking
on the sidewalk.



Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain, would identify themselves
if they were strangers walking in a clearly posted private property and
questioned by someone representing the clearly posted neighborhood
watch..


I wouldn't unless he identified HIMSELF.


Anybody with nothing to hide, and/or a brain...



You probably should stay out of that crummy neighborhood.

iBoaterer[_2_] April 17th 12 02:20 PM

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 
In article , says...

On 4/16/2012 3:18 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/16/12 2:23 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote:


Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you
live
here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a
loaded firearm."

Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put
out on CNN

All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a
neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking
on the sidewalk.


They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted



Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution.


Martin was on private property clearly marked as monitored. Anybody with
a brain in that situation would assume he did...


Why would anyone assume he did? Zimmerman could have been nothing more
than a thug wanting to rob Martin. If someone walks up to you in the
middle of the night, no one else around, and starts asking ****, you are
going to "assume" that he has authority and isn't just trying to rob you
or something worse? THAT is stupid.

iBoaterer[_2_] April 17th 12 02:21 PM

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 
In article , says...

On 4/16/2012 3:41 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articleCOKdnTZPKps_7RHSnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 4/16/12 2:23 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote:


Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live
here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a
loaded firearm."

Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put
out on CNN

All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a
neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking
on the sidewalk.


They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted


Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution.


Well, the thing is this: In general, trespass laws apply to someone
infringing on private property to which he or she has not been invited.
Martin was indeed invited there.



"Well then"??? How about saying, "sorry I lied about him not being
private property, I will go read the police report before making an ass
of myself again here"...????????


You are ****ing insane! What you have just typed has NOTHING to do with
the way trespassing laws work.

iBoaterer[_2_] April 17th 12 02:22 PM

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 
In article , says...

On 4/16/2012 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:50:07 -0400, wrote:

You would go to jail for trespassing.

Nope, they are public streets.


Not inside a gated community.
As soon as you put up a gate, you own the street. In this case they
were NEVER government owned streets. The developer built the street,
the HOA owns the street and is responsible for maintenance. The cops
come in as visitors unless they are in hot pursuit, the same as it
would be on your patio.,
In our county they actually have a different bunch of deputies to
handle gated communities (a great gig by the way)


We went through this when some people here wanted our HOA to put up
gates. We would have been required to get the county to vacate the
roads and cede them over to us. then we would get no more county
maintenance. That was the show stopper.
Most gated communities are built from scratch and they never give the
roads to the county. (the county will not take them, even if you want,
when they are behind gates)

I am amazed at how little you people know about HOAs and gated
communities, yet you seem to have plenty of opinions.


This guy just refuses to look at any info before he makes up his next
troll... Amazing, he hasn't changed a bit.

I lived in a HOA in the eighties.. Just couldn't live that way, but it
was good as it convinced us to buy a house:)


Psssst, I'm on my HOA's board.......

JustWait[_2_] April 17th 12 02:38 PM

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 
On 4/17/2012 9:21 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 4/16/2012 3:41 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articleCOKdnTZPKps_7RHSnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 4/16/12 2:23 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:49:37 -0400, wrote:


Was the property properly posted with a sign that said, "Unless you live
here, keep out or our Doberman Zimmerman will chase after you with a
loaded firearm."

Pretty much. Have you seen the signs? They were photographed and put
out on CNN

All the signs said was that it was a neighborhood that had a
neighborhood watch program. It didn't say that you couldn't be walking
on the sidewalk.


They also said trespassers would be arrested and prosecuted


Zimmerman had no powers of arrest and prosecution.

Well, the thing is this: In general, trespass laws apply to someone
infringing on private property to which he or she has not been invited.
Martin was indeed invited there.



"Well then"??? How about saying, "sorry I lied about him not being
private property, I will go read the police report before making an ass
of myself again here"...????????


You are ****ing insane! What you have just typed has NOTHING to do with
the way trespassing laws work.


once you get hysterical, I stop reading.... snerk

JustWait[_2_] April 17th 12 02:39 PM

Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
 
On 4/17/2012 9:22 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says...

On 4/16/2012 2:32 PM,
wrote:
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:50:07 -0400, wrote:

You would go to jail for trespassing.

Nope, they are public streets.

Not inside a gated community.
As soon as you put up a gate, you own the street. In this case they
were NEVER government owned streets. The developer built the street,
the HOA owns the street and is responsible for maintenance. The cops
come in as visitors unless they are in hot pursuit, the same as it
would be on your patio.,
In our county they actually have a different bunch of deputies to
handle gated communities (a great gig by the way)


We went through this when some people here wanted our HOA to put up
gates. We would have been required to get the county to vacate the
roads and cede them over to us. then we would get no more county
maintenance. That was the show stopper.
Most gated communities are built from scratch and they never give the
roads to the county. (the county will not take them, even if you want,
when they are behind gates)

I am amazed at how little you people know about HOAs and gated
communities, yet you seem to have plenty of opinions.


This guy just refuses to look at any info before he makes up his next
troll... Amazing, he hasn't changed a bit.

I lived in a HOA in the eighties.. Just couldn't live that way, but it
was good as it convinced us to buy a house:)


Psssst, I'm on my HOA's board.......


Yeah, I could have guessed that...


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