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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On Friday, April 13, 2012 11:34:47 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 24820121.82.1334327347315.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynnf1, says... On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article 26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynjc2, says... On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote: On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Whatever else is involved, there is no disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was precipitated by Zimmerman. I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note). In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive. Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat. A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street. Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop? Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop. Moron. The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking INTO cars. We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school. A. Teen-aged boys look into cars. In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to take... Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it. Damned kids needs to be killed eh? Cite? You haven't heard? In Florida there is this case right now where a vigilante, George Zimmerman, Of course I've heard. But how does my statement translate into me thinking that a kid doing that needs to be shot? That would be quite a leap of (il)logic. Try to follow closely... kids look AT cars they are interested in. They look indescrimately into car windows in general because they are interested in what may be IN them. Now try to understand in your tiny brain, Kevin, that I don't think that Zimmerman should have shot him. However, I also understand that none of us in this NG have all the facts in this case, no matter what Sharpton and the MSM have told you to think. Cya... |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/13/12 12:47 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:42:47 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:37:34 -0400, wrote: On 4/12/2012 1:30 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Whatever else is involved, there is no disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was precipitated by Zimmerman. I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note). In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive. Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat. A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street. He's saying you would have to jump out the window and run. That doesn't square with your "blow their heads off" defense strategy. ;-) We also have to remember Harry went to quite an effort to get a Maryland carry permit, so he must think he was going to have to shoot someone on the street. I wonder how badly he would have to be getting beaten before he pulled his gat. Harry does not have a Maryland Concealed Carry Permit. Harry may have a Maryland Collectors Permit which allows him to purchase more than one hand gun a month. A Maryland Collectors Permit does not allow one to carry a concealed weapon/gun. Harry may have a Concealed Carry Permit from another state but those are not recognized in Maryland at this time. Don't believe everything Harry says. Maryland does have a concealed carry permit but they are very hard to get and they get reviewed fairly frequently to insure that you still have the "danger" that allowed you to get the permit in the first place. I do know a few licensed collectors up there, including machine guns but that is a whole different thing. It's easy to get a permit for an automatic weapon. I have no need or use for one, but I have friends who own a couple. As for the CCW permit, it is amazing what you can do with a good quality liberal arts edu-ma-ca-shun. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:37:48 AM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/13/12 10:29 AM, wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynjc2, says... On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote: On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Whatever else is involved, there is no disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was precipitated by Zimmerman. I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note). In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive. Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat. A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street.. Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop? Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop. Moron. The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking INTO cars. We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school. A. Teen-aged boys look into cars. In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to take... Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it. Damned kids needs to be killed eh? Cite? I think he is citing what you are implying, dumfoch. Let me help you out, harold. To "cite" is to quote someone or something. Since I neither wrote or implied his statement he can't cite it, and you've improperly used the word "cite". Hope that helps, english major. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
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Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 4/13/12 1:03 PM, wrote:
On Friday, April 13, 2012 10:37:48 AM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote: On 4/13/12 10:29 AM, wrote: On Friday, April 13, 2012 9:17:29 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article26105108.852.1334279195650.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynjc2, says... On Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:51:02 PM UTC-4, JustWait wrote: On 4/12/2012 5:01 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 4:17 PM, wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:15:01 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 1:37 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 12/04/2012 11:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 4/12/12 1:06 PM, wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 07:07:31 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Whatever else is involved, there is no disputing the fact that he shot and killed an unarmed teen-ager who was doing nothing more than walking through his neighborhood. The event was precipitated by Zimmerman. I ask again, would you feel the same way if it was you who had shot an unarmed teenager (in your house, just to follow your other note). In Maryland, the castle doctrine is not very inclusive. Basically you need to jump out a window if you can to retreat. A home invader is not the same as a kid walking down the street. Don't you mean casing the 'hood? When confronted, beat up a rent-a-cop? Martin was walking to his father's place after buying candy and a soft drink at a nearby convenience store. There's not the slightest evidence he was "casing" anything. And Zimmerman wasn't a rent-a-cop. Moron. The Zimmerman police call said Martin was walking slow and looking INTO cars. We also have an indication that he stole things before. He was found with a bag of womens jewelry and a burglary tool in school. A. Teen-aged boys look into cars. In what world.. Kids that look into cars, are looking for something to take... Exactly. Kids look AT cars, and only interesting ones. If he saw a Buick or Corolla, he wouldn't even glance. If he saw a sports car or ricer, he'd look at it. Walking slowly and looking into car windows is a pretty sure sign of being up to no good, no matter how some want to spin it. Damned kids needs to be killed eh? Cite? I think he is citing what you are implying, dumfoch. Let me help you out, harold. To "cite" is to quote someone or something. Since I neither wrote or implied his statement he can't cite it, and you've improperly used the word "cite". Hope that helps, english major. He was citing your implication. Which is what I said. As to what you claimed you implied, well, that's your take on it, eh? |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 12/04/2012 2:59 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 4/12/12 4:03 PM, wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:17:56 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X ` wrote: Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to "defend" them. I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects (schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail. The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack of evidence. This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it benefits. It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those trials cost a boat load of money too. We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot more than they have announced, it is squat. The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled. Just what lynch mob is that? And actually, Sharpton his self said last night that no one can be as upset about this as Martin's parents, and they are handling this with calm and said that the public should as well. How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads I asked, after you stated that this is a waste of taxpayer's money, where should we draw the line? Should we not take murderers to trial, just let them go because of the cost? What about rapists? Robbers? Those trials also cost money. Unless they have uncovered something new, they still do not have a case. This is politics, pure and simple. You really have to view this in light of the current FLORIDA law, not what might happen in Maryland, Massachusetts or California. All Zimmernan has to establish is that he was in fear of great bodily harm. He had a "right to be there" so there is no question about the legality of how he got into the situation. That last statement is not precisely as you claim. If he precipitated the events and then went after the kid...stand your ground may not apply. Stand your ground or self defense. I wish the idiots who think you should lay down and take a beating from a punk should hear themselves think. -- Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing. |
Zimmerman to be arrested and charged....
On 13/04/2012 5:37 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says... On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 08:54:10 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:37:20 -0400, X ` wrote: Zimmerman has been arrested and charged with 2nd degree murder, He once again is being represented by competent counsel, Mark O'Mara. There's nothing going on in the legal system that is contrary to his civil rights. The process is in place. No one is so desperate they need you to "defend" them. I am just frustrated that this witch hunt will cost the Florida tax payers millions that could have been spent on more worthy projects (schools, roads etc) on a case that will probably fail. The first SA looked at the evidence and said it was a loser. I think he was right. The police report will be defense exhibit A and unless they can find something we have not seen so far to break Zimmerman's story, this could be dismissed at the end of the state's case for lack of evidence. This is pure election year politics. The only question is who it benefits. It won't fail. There had to be some very damning evidence to charge him with Murder II and not manslaughter which is much easier to prove. So, I guess you think murder cases shouldn't be tried because of the cost? So we just let them go? How about bank robbers? Child molesters? Those trials cost a boat load of money too. We are going to see what evidence they have today. Unless it is a lot more than they have announced, it is squat. The damning evidence was the lynch mob that Sharpton assembled. How would you lefties feel if it was a black guy shooting an unarmed teenager (like Carl Rowan did) and it was a white rally outside the police station demanding an arrest? You would call them KKK skinheads Carl Rowen was a good liberal who only shot at teenagers who had jumped the fence so they could use his pool. It didn't matter than Carl Rowen had an illegal handgun and illegally discharged it within city limits. Carl Rowen was a good liberal so it was swept under the rug. Excellent point, just the other way around, black kills white. But black racism towards Hispanics is fostered by the morally corrupt black president. Yep, hypocrisy of the real racists and one is a presidente. -- Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay for it leave, they can all share having nothing. |
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