In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/5/11 10:47 AM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:12:35 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 4, 5:15 am, wrote:
On 1/3/11 11:49 PM, Tim wrote:

I haven't seen where smaller trucks are really that great of a savings
compared to their bigger counter parts, Especially if you plan on
really using them.

It depends on how you plan to use a truck. I no longer have a trailer
boat so I don't need a full-sized truck to tow a heavy boat. The smaller
trucks are...smaller...and therefore easier to park, easier to maneuver,
a little easier on the gas. Most of the time the "stuff" my wife buys at
the garden shops and other stores will easily fit into a smaller truck.
The other times, the "stuff" is too large for even a full-size pickup truck.

I happened to park next to a new Toyota Tundra the other day, and
thought that truck was just humongous. I owned a Tundra some years ago;
it was significantly smaller than the current models.

Yep.

When I think of small trucks I'm thinking of GM- SW15's Chevy S-10's
Ford Rangers and Dodge rams. The little ones.

Granted today's average 'heavy half' ton truck is build a lot larger
than the 'heavy 3/4' ton trucks from 20 years ago.

So when I think of small trucks, I do mean "small" They may get a
bit better economy but their overall usefulness is lacking compared to
their larger counterparts.

Obviously, I'm not a slave to fashion and never was, but I'd take an
early 2000's Dodge diesel or a 7.3 Ford power-stroke over any new
models of the smaller v-6's offered by almost anyone.

If I didn't pull a trailer which required something on the bigger side, I'd go
for a Tacoma like the one I showed Harry, with the V6.

Something like this: http://tinyurl.com/366njfn


I don't "get" those CarMax prices. For a few thousand more than that
Toyota truck at the CarMax price, I can buy a brand new one equipped
about the same. $23,600 for a three year old small truck with nearly
30,000 miles? Why? Pretty close to the same little truck, 4x4 *retail*
is under $30,000 before haggling discount, probably about $27,500 actual
price. Brand new.

I don't understand the allure of CarMax. Everything is over priced and
the perceived quality is not there. And, if the salesdroid insists on
going on the test drive then he had better be prepared to change his
underwear. A Honda salesdroid was extolling the virtues of their 4 wheel
steering in the late 80's Prelude. Guy nearly had a heart attack when I
took a 90* turn at 45 miles an hour and commented that it wasn't that
good.

CarMax is no better than any other used car dealer around. When I was
shopping for a car I told the salesman at CarMax that I wanted my
mechanic to look over the vehicle before I purchased it. The CarMax
salesman said that I could purchase the car and then have my mechanic
look at the car and if I didn't like the vehicle I had 3 or 5 days to
bring it back and roll-back the entire transaction. I laughed at the
salesman, turned and walked away.