On 1/17/11 6:37 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 17, 7:54 am, wrote:
On 1/17/11 8:48 AM, Tim wrote:



On Jan 17, 7:43 am, wrote:
On 1/17/11 8:38 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 16, 8:28 am, wrote:
On 1/16/11 9:04 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:43 am, wrote:
On 1/16/11 8:41 AM, Gene wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, wrote:
On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, wrote:

TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more
dependable and handle a lot better.

The old one liner:

"Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't
leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till
they got it right?"

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544

A double whammy!

I don't know if they still use Lucas electrics... but no surprise,
anyway....

The "electrics" on some of the lesser-known Italian cars in the late
1950's and early 1960's were as bad as the Lucas stuff.

Magneti Marelli.... And lucas.

now the ironic part. In a round about way, Lucas and Marelli merged
about 15+ years ago. Do they make a better product? NO!

There's business wedding was about like two drunks tying themselves
together to see if they could stagger straight.

There was a guy in Independence, Missouri, a TR-4 racer, who for a
living in the 1960s ran a Brit car speed shop. I remember he had a
"special" in which he would rip out all the wiring and whatever else
electrical he could on your British sports car and replace it with GM
stuff. I don't remember the details, but there was always a car in his
shop undergoing electrical transmogrification.

Yes, there were companies back int he early 70's that made brackets to
convert over from a lucas alternator to the Delco's. Megatron, and
Ameri-tec were a couple of those conversion companies. you could
either buy the full kit, or just the bracket and do your own. My dad
was one to always try to do something himself, and started making the
brackets then realized it actually cost him more in time than buying
them ..

In the late 70's we changed over several MGB's and Triumphs.

Ahh. I had an MG-A I bought very used, got a year out of it before it
caught fire and I had to leave it smoldering by the side of the road.
But...I later bought a new TR-4A IRS and a used Mini-Cooper S and never
had electrical problems with either. The TR-4
in fact was a very reliable car.

I had a TR-6 for a while, and they must have had the mechanic in mind
because the alternator was mounted on the top, left of the engine.

Very easy to get to....

BTW, In the corner of my warehouse is my wife's 62' MG Midget... it
needs carb work.

That's another "one of these days" projects.

Back in the day, we called the "midgets" and the tr spitfires...coffins,
because guys were always getting killed in them.
The midget, if memory serves, was all hood.

It and the Austin Healey Sprite were more like all tin. About as much
of a death trap as you can get. However they're not only a crowd
pleaser, but also a real blast at an "auto-cross"


My error... I meant the bugeye sprite and the spitfire, although I don't
recall the midget being any sturdier, but they were fun to drive.

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:35:01 -0500, Spoofer wrote:

In article ,
says...

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Jan 16, 2:03 pm, "YukonBound" wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message

news


On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, "MMC" wrote:

TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot
more
dependable and handle a lot better.

The old one liner:

"Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it
didn't
leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till
they got it right?"

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544

A double whammy!

was looking at used land rovers to replace my honda CRV which died at
210k miles

the reviews on used land rovers are TERRIBLE. freelanders with
cracked engine blocks (LOTS of this), transmission problems, etc....

so went with a honda element...

Believe I read that the Element is no more...... most Honda buyers in
that
category felt the CRV was a better buy.

My wife has a love/hate relationship with her CRV. After her beloved
Chrysler town'n country van with 250+ thousand on it, she decided she
was scared of it's dependability and decided to get something
diffrent. So she looked at CRV's. She's disappointed in all the
manual stuff. especially the seat adjustment, and the center console
and the ride. Other wise she likes the car's 30 mpg, manuverability
and adequate space for no more car than what is actually there.

Yeah, trade-off's but she's actually satisfied with her purchase. plus
she gave half for it as what a Chrysler TC or compatable van would
cost.


The 'compact' SUVs are great as a city vehicle.
The top three, for the last 5 or so years are the Subaru Forester, Toyota
RAV4 and the Honda CRV.
Some of the others may be slowly creeping up but I'd stay with those three
for the immediate future.
Unless of course you're one of the over 6 footers in here. Many (my 6'2"
son included) complain that the seating isn't comfortable in the RAV4.

Compact suv? I thought it was a truck!!!

It's a compact SUV, and a rage among teenage girls.

On 1/17/11 6:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:35:01 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
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On Jan 16, 2:03 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

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On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, wrote:
On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, wrote:

TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot
more
dependable and handle a lot better.

The old one liner:

"Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it
didn't
leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till
they got it right?"

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544

A double whammy!

was looking at used land rovers to replace my honda CRV which died at
210k miles

the reviews on used land rovers are TERRIBLE. freelanders with
cracked engine blocks (LOTS of this), transmission problems, etc....

so went with a honda element...

Believe I read that the Element is no more...... most Honda buyers in
that
category felt the CRV was a better buy.

My wife has a love/hate relationship with her CRV. After her beloved
Chrysler town'n country van with 250+ thousand on it, she decided she
was scared of it's dependability and decided to get something
diffrent. So she looked at CRV's. She's disappointed in all the
manual stuff. especially the seat adjustment, and the center console
and the ride. Other wise she likes the car's 30 mpg, manuverability
and adequate space for no more car than what is actually there.

Yeah, trade-off's but she's actually satisfied with her purchase. plus
she gave half for it as what a Chrysler TC or compatable van would
cost.


The 'compact' SUVs are great as a city vehicle.
The top three, for the last 5 or so years are the Subaru Forester, Toyota
RAV4 and the Honda CRV.
Some of the others may be slowly creeping up but I'd stay with those three
for the immediate future.
Unless of course you're one of the over 6 footers in here. Many (my 6'2"
son included) complain that the seating isn't comfortable in the RAV4.

Compact suv? I thought it was a truck!!!

It's a compact SUV, and a rage among teenage girls.

Your former mustang? Indeed it is.

"Tim" wrote in message
...

On Jan 16, 2:03 pm, "YukonBound" wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message

news


On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, "MMC" wrote:

TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot
more
dependable and handle a lot better.

The old one liner:

"Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't
leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till
they got it right?"

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544

A double whammy!

was looking at used land rovers to replace my honda CRV which died at
210k miles

the reviews on used land rovers are TERRIBLE. freelanders with
cracked engine blocks (LOTS of this), transmission problems, etc....

so went with a honda element...

Believe I read that the Element is no more...... most Honda buyers in
that
category felt the CRV was a better buy.

My wife has a love/hate relationship with her CRV. After her beloved
Chrysler town'n country van with 250+ thousand on it, she decided she
was scared of it's dependability and decided to get something
diffrent. So she looked at CRV's. She's disappointed in all the
manual stuff. especially the seat adjustment, and the center console
and the ride. Other wise she likes the car's 30 mpg, manuverability
and adequate space for no more car than what is actually there.

Yeah, trade-off's but she's actually satisfied with her purchase. plus
she gave half for it as what a Chrysler TC or compatable van would
cost.


reply:
Accident on hywy 680 near me one day. Element ran off the road and hit the
emergency phone pole. Ended up the embankment and guy got out. looked
unhurt. Called the CHP to report the accident and could not remember the
name of the Element. 911 lady asked what make vehicle and I said the ugly
Honda station wagon. She laughed and asked if it was the Element. And it
is a crappy looking station wagon.

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:01:47 -0500, Harryk wrote:

On 1/17/11 6:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:35:01 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Jan 16, 2:03 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

news


On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, wrote:
On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, wrote:

TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot
more
dependable and handle a lot better.

The old one liner:

"Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it
didn't
leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till
they got it right?"

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544

A double whammy!

was looking at used land rovers to replace my honda CRV which died at
210k miles

the reviews on used land rovers are TERRIBLE. freelanders with
cracked engine blocks (LOTS of this), transmission problems, etc....

so went with a honda element...

Believe I read that the Element is no more...... most Honda buyers in
that
category felt the CRV was a better buy.

My wife has a love/hate relationship with her CRV. After her beloved
Chrysler town'n country van with 250+ thousand on it, she decided she
was scared of it's dependability and decided to get something
diffrent. So she looked at CRV's. She's disappointed in all the
manual stuff. especially the seat adjustment, and the center console
and the ride. Other wise she likes the car's 30 mpg, manuverability
and adequate space for no more car than what is actually there.

Yeah, trade-off's but she's actually satisfied with her purchase. plus
she gave half for it as what a Chrysler TC or compatable van would
cost.


The 'compact' SUVs are great as a city vehicle.
The top three, for the last 5 or so years are the Subaru Forester, Toyota
RAV4 and the Honda CRV.
Some of the others may be slowly creeping up but I'd stay with those three
for the immediate future.
Unless of course you're one of the over 6 footers in here. Many (my 6'2"
son included) complain that the seating isn't comfortable in the RAV4.

Compact suv? I thought it was a truck!!!

It's a compact SUV, and a rage among teenage girls.

Your former mustang? Indeed it is.

Not quite. A definite girl-pleaser, but not much in the SUV department.

bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:46:23 -0400, "YukonBound"
wrote:



.


The 'compact' SUVs are great as a city vehicle.
The top three, for the last 5 or so years are the Subaru Forester, Toyota
RAV4 and the Honda CRV.
Some of the others may be slowly creeping up but I'd stay with those three
for the immediate future.
Unless of course you're one of the over 6 footers in here. Many (my 6'2"
son included) complain that the seating isn't comfortable in the RAV4.

the reviews of ellement reliabiliity just like CRV are pretty good and
the element doesn't have a timing belt like the CRV does...hoping i
get the 200K miles out of the element i got from the CRV

You aren't going to drive it anyway so what do you care?

MMC wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, Tim wrote:
On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, "MMC" wrote:

TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a
lot more
dependable and handle a lot better.

The old one liner:

"Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't
leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till
they got it right?"


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544


A double whammy!

was looking at used land rovers to replace my honda CRV which died at
210k miles

the reviews on used land rovers are TERRIBLE. freelanders with
cracked engine blocks (LOTS of this), transmission problems, etc....

so went with a honda element...
=======
How've you been Bob?
Blind as a bat.

On Jan 17, 5:42*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 1/17/11 6:37 PM, Tim wrote:



On Jan 17, 7:54 am, *wrote:
On 1/17/11 8:48 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 17, 7:43 am, * *wrote:
On 1/17/11 8:38 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 16, 8:28 am, * * *wrote:
On 1/16/11 9:04 AM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 16, 7:43 am, * * * *wrote:
On 1/16/11 8:41 AM, Gene wrote:

On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, * * * * *wrote:
On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, * * * * *wrote:

TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot more
dependable and handle a lot better.

The old one liner:

"Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it didn't
leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till
they got it right?"

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544

A double whammy!

I don't know if they still use Lucas electrics... but no surprise,
anyway....

The "electrics" on some of the lesser-known Italian cars in the late
1950's and early 1960's were as bad as the Lucas stuff.

Magneti Marelli.... *And lucas.

now the ironic part. In a round about way, Lucas and Marelli merged
about 15+ years ago. *Do they make a better product? NO!

There's business wedding was about like two drunks tying themselves
together to see if they could stagger straight.

There was a guy in Independence, Missouri, a TR-4 racer, who for a
living in the 1960s ran a Brit car speed shop. I remember he had a
"special" in which he would rip out all the wiring and whatever else
electrical he could on your British sports car and replace it with GM
stuff. I don't remember the details, but there was always a car in his
shop undergoing electrical transmogrification.

Yes, there were companies back int he early 70's that made brackets to
convert over from a lucas alternator to the Delco's. *Megatron, and
Ameri-tec were a couple of those conversion companies. you could
either buy the full kit, or just the bracket and do your own. *My dad
was one to always try to do something himself, and started making the
brackets then realized it actually cost him more in time than buying
them ..

In the late 70's we changed over several MGB's and Triumphs.

Ahh. I had an MG-A I bought very used, got a year out of it before it
caught fire and I had to leave it smoldering by the side of the road..
But...I later bought a new TR-4A IRS and a used Mini-Cooper S and never
had electrical problems with either. The TR-4
in fact was a very reliable car.

I had a TR-6 for a while, and they must have had the mechanic in mind
because the alternator was mounted on the top, left of the engine.

Very easy to get to....

BTW, In the corner of my warehouse is my wife's 62' MG Midget... it
needs carb work.

That's another "one of these days" projects.

Back in the day, we called the "midgets" and the tr spitfires...coffins,
because guys were always getting killed in them.
The midget, if memory serves, was all hood.

It and the Austin Healey Sprite were more like all tin. *About as much
of a death trap as you can get. However they're not only a crowd
pleaser, but also a real blast at an "auto-cross"

My error... I meant the bugeye sprite and the spitfire, although I don't
recall the midget being any sturdier, but they were fun to drive.

Wether the 'bug eye' or the 'frog eye," the Sprite and the MG midget
were the same car. My Chilton books call them a 'Spridget"

On Jan 17, 7:03*pm, Gene wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:07:07 -0500, John H
wrote:



On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:01:47 -0500, Harryk wrote:

On 1/17/11 6:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:35:01 -0500, *wrote:

In ,
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*wrote in message
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On Jan 16, 2:03 pm, *wrote:
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, *wrote:
On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, *wrote:

TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot
more
dependable and handle a lot better.

The old one liner:

"Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it
didn't
leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till
they got it right?"

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544

A double whammy!

was looking at used land rovers to replace my honda CRV which died at
210k miles

the reviews on used land rovers are TERRIBLE. *freelanders with
cracked engine blocks (LOTS of this), transmission problems, etc.....

so went with a honda element...

Believe I read that the Element is no more...... * most Honda buyers in
that
category felt the CRV *was a better buy.

My wife has a love/hate relationship with her CRV. After her beloved
Chrysler town'n country van with 250+ thousand on it, she decided she
was scared of it's dependability and decided to get something
diffrent. So she looked at CRV's. *She's disappointed in all the
manual stuff. especially the seat adjustment, and the center console
and the ride. Other wise she likes the car's 30 mpg, manuverability
and adequate space for no more car than what is actually there.

Yeah, trade-off's but she's actually satisfied with her purchase. plus
she gave half for it as what a *Chrysler TC or compatable van would
cost.

The 'compact' SUVs are great as a city vehicle.
The top three, for the last 5 or so years are the Subaru Forester, Toyota
RAV4 and the Honda CRV.
Some of the others may be slowly creeping up but I'd stay with those three
for the immediate future.
Unless of course you're one of the over 6 footers in here. Many *(my 6'2"
son included) complain that the seating isn't comfortable in the RAV4.

Compact suv? I thought it was a truck!!!

It's a compact SUV, and a rage among teenage girls.

Your former mustang? Indeed it is.

Not quite. A definite girl-pleaser, but not much in the SUV department.

The last girl-pleaser was a Rambler.... ;-)

--
It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are
enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.
*-Thomas Sowell

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
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LOL!

On 1/17/11 7:07 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:01:47 -0500, wrote:

On 1/17/11 6:56 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 08:35:01 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

wrote in message
...
On Jan 16, 2:03 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

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On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 20:28:59 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Jan 6, 8:46 pm, wrote:
On Jan 6, 12:39 pm, wrote:

TheLandRover110 used to be the hot ticket but the Toyotas are a lot
more
dependable and handle a lot better.

The old one liner:

"Did you hear about the guy that bought a new Land Rover and it
didn't
leak any oil so he kept taking it back and hounding the dealer till
they got it right?"

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10698544

A double whammy!

was looking at used land rovers to replace my honda CRV which died at
210k miles

the reviews on used land rovers are TERRIBLE. freelanders with
cracked engine blocks (LOTS of this), transmission problems, etc....

so went with a honda element...

Believe I read that the Element is no more...... most Honda buyers in
that
category felt the CRV was a better buy.

My wife has a love/hate relationship with her CRV. After her beloved
Chrysler town'n country van with 250+ thousand on it, she decided she
was scared of it's dependability and decided to get something
diffrent. So she looked at CRV's. She's disappointed in all the
manual stuff. especially the seat adjustment, and the center console
and the ride. Other wise she likes the car's 30 mpg, manuverability
and adequate space for no more car than what is actually there.

Yeah, trade-off's but she's actually satisfied with her purchase. plus
she gave half for it as what a Chrysler TC or compatable van would
cost.


The 'compact' SUVs are great as a city vehicle.
The top three, for the last 5 or so years are the Subaru Forester, Toyota
RAV4 and the Honda CRV.
Some of the others may be slowly creeping up but I'd stay with those three
for the immediate future.
Unless of course you're one of the over 6 footers in here. Many (my 6'2"
son included) complain that the seating isn't comfortable in the RAV4.

Compact suv? I thought it was a truck!!!

It's a compact SUV, and a rage among teenage girls.

Your former mustang? Indeed it is.

Not quite. A definite girl-pleaser, but not much in the SUV department.


Who really gives a ****, other than you right-wing twerps who are trying
to harass another poster here? Your asshole quotient keeps rising, herring.