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Reducing the number of guns is one way to try and fix the ever growing
gun
problem we have in this country.


The real question is how you would actually do that.

Education, regulation, biometric trigger locks...


That wouldn't reduce the number of guns and trigger locks are a stupid
idea. It doesn't keep the gun from being stolen. a thief can defeat it
easily and it only gives a kid a puzzle.
Education is probably the best solution.
That used to be what the NRA did. I was an instructor for a while
myself, before it all became a "them vs us" thing.

A biometric trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how. I'd
be
curious to know.

Education and regulation would reduce the number of guns. People should
be
required to take a class before purchasing a gun. Regulations should be
enforced and expanded to improve gun quality/safety, and special permits
should be required for certain types of weapons (some are already).

Can you share some information on these biometrics trigger locks.
I found something on fingerprint gun safes but that's not what you are
talking about

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/t...t-any-caliber/




That's correct. That's not what I'm talking about. There are inventions in
the works, and I don't have the details.

While it's probably true that no trigger lock is 100% foolproof, it's also
true that most criminals who want to use a gun aren't bright enough to do
the disassembly, etc., to get it to work.



So then why did you make this statement?
And I quote Miss DeLaPlume "A biometrics trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how. I'd be curious to know."

Well, my dear, you can find out once the in the works invention becomes a reality.

Are you a compulsive liar?

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:41:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Reducing the number of guns is one way to try and fix the ever growing
gun
problem we have in this country.


The real question is how you would actually do that.

Education, regulation, biometric trigger locks...


That wouldn't reduce the number of guns and trigger locks are a stupid
idea. It doesn't keep the gun from being stolen. a thief can defeat it
easily and it only gives a kid a puzzle.
Education is probably the best solution.
That used to be what the NRA did. I was an instructor for a while
myself, before it all became a "them vs us" thing.

A biometric trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how. I'd
be
curious to know.

Education and regulation would reduce the number of guns. People should
be
required to take a class before purchasing a gun. Regulations should be
enforced and expanded to improve gun quality/safety, and special permits
should be required for certain types of weapons (some are already).

Can you share some information on these biometrics trigger locks.
I found something on fingerprint gun safes but that's not what you are
talking about

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/t...t-any-caliber/




That's correct. That's not what I'm talking about. There are inventions in
the works, and I don't have the details.

While it's probably true that no trigger lock is 100% foolproof, it's also
true that most criminals who want to use a gun aren't bright enough to do
the disassembly, etc., to get it to work.



So then why did you make this statement?
And I quote Miss DeLaPlume "A biometrics trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how. I'd be curious to know."

Well, my dear, you can find out once the in the works invention becomes a reality.

Are you a compulsive liar?

If she answers, it will be a no, but of course.... snerk. You should
know by now it is a constant tactic here to just make it up as they go
along, and change the subject (faking no comprehension of the questions)
to deflect to the next talking point.. Remember, all they are trying to
do is say it over and over again till it becomes fact in the eyes of the
dishonest and oblivious...

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OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:41:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Reducing the number of guns is one way to try and fix the ever
growing
gun
problem we have in this country.

The real question is how you would actually do that.

Education, regulation, biometric trigger locks...

That wouldn't reduce the number of guns and trigger locks are a
stupid
idea. It doesn't keep the gun from being stolen. a thief can defeat
it
easily and it only gives a kid a puzzle.
Education is probably the best solution.
That used to be what the NRA did. I was an instructor for a while
myself, before it all became a "them vs us" thing.

A biometric trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how.
I'd
be
curious to know.

Education and regulation would reduce the number of guns. People
should
be
required to take a class before purchasing a gun. Regulations should
be
enforced and expanded to improve gun quality/safety, and special
permits
should be required for certain types of weapons (some are already).

Can you share some information on these biometrics trigger locks.
I found something on fingerprint gun safes but that's not what you are
talking about

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/t...ks-unsafe-at-a...

That's correct. That's not what I'm talking about. There are inventions
in
the works, and I don't have the details.



Yes, D'Plume. There are always inventions in the works that you arn't
privy of, however your statement at face value appears that you don't
have much of a clue about anything, which is also compatible with
your nature.

I said I didn't have the details, not that I wasn't "privy" to them. Sorry,
but I don't dance to your tune.



That makes you clueless, doesn't it.
Speaking of dancing. Did you catch Palin's daughter on Dancing with The Stars last night? Doesn't she have great legs? Too bad she can't dance well. Do you think she has enough fan base to keep her around for a few weeks?

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While it's probably true that no trigger lock is 100% foolproof, it's also
true that most criminals who want to use a gun aren't bright enough to do
the disassembly, etc., to get it to work.

That would be a bad assumption. Every criminal on the street may not
know how to take a gun apart and fix it but it really only takes a few
to turn useless "locked" guns into an unlocked ones and sell it. These
are the same ones who know how to unlock cell phones, make credit card
skimmers and build a very good silencer from a half dozen .5l water
bottles or a piece of PVC pipe and a hand full of milk bottle caps.

The biggest problem with engineers is they assume the person defeating
their next big thing will have to work as hard and defeat it the same
way they built it. They get embarrassed when a very simple trick gets
around a very complicated device.
Just think about that high tech bicycle lock that you could open with
the barrel of a BIC pen. Most locks can be picked with a paper clip
and something to put tension on the lock (Ball point pen ?) Kids
learn how to do this in elementary or middle school these days. I
didn't learn until my sophomore year of high school. ;-)

You just pretty much confirmed it that it is a valid assumption. You're
claiming equivalency of high tech kids unlocking phones to criminals
disabling trigger locks?? Talk about false equivalency. Also, unlocking a
phone isn't a criminal act typically.



I wonder about that.

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On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 12:04:15 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:41:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Reducing the number of guns is one way to try and fix the ever
growing
gun
problem we have in this country.

The real question is how you would actually do that.

Education, regulation, biometric trigger locks...

That wouldn't reduce the number of guns and trigger locks are a
stupid
idea. It doesn't keep the gun from being stolen. a thief can defeat
it
easily and it only gives a kid a puzzle.
Education is probably the best solution.
That used to be what the NRA did. I was an instructor for a while
myself, before it all became a "them vs us" thing.

A biometric trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how.
I'd
be
curious to know.

Education and regulation would reduce the number of guns. People
should
be
required to take a class before purchasing a gun. Regulations should
be
enforced and expanded to improve gun quality/safety, and special
permits
should be required for certain types of weapons (some are already).

Can you share some information on these biometrics trigger locks.
I found something on fingerprint gun safes but that's not what you are
talking about

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/t...ks-unsafe-at-a...

That's correct. That's not what I'm talking about. There are inventions
in
the works, and I don't have the details.



Yes, D'Plume. There are always inventions in the works that you arn't
privy of, however your statement at face value appears that you don't
have much of a clue about anything, which is also compatible with
your nature.

I said I didn't have the details, not that I wasn't "privy" to them. Sorry,
but I don't dance to your tune.



That makes you clueless, doesn't it.
Speaking of dancing. Did you catch Palin's daughter on Dancing with The Stars last night? Doesn't she have great legs? Too bad she can't dance well. Do you think she has enough fan base to keep her around for a few weeks?

Saw a clip of it this morning on the news. She really does suck at
dancing, the dude that got stuck with her must be ****ed And in my
opinion, her legs ain't that great either..

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

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wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:41:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Reducing the number of guns is one way to try and fix the ever
growing
gun
problem we have in this country.

The real question is how you would actually do that.

Education, regulation, biometric trigger locks...

That wouldn't reduce the number of guns and trigger locks are a
stupid
idea. It doesn't keep the gun from being stolen. a thief can defeat
it
easily and it only gives a kid a puzzle.
Education is probably the best solution.
That used to be what the NRA did. I was an instructor for a while
myself, before it all became a "them vs us" thing.

A biometric trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how.
I'd
be
curious to know.

Education and regulation would reduce the number of guns. People
should
be
required to take a class before purchasing a gun. Regulations should
be
enforced and expanded to improve gun quality/safety, and special
permits
should be required for certain types of weapons (some are already).

Can you share some information on these biometrics trigger locks.
I found something on fingerprint gun safes but that's not what you are
talking about

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/t...ks-unsafe-at-a...

That's correct. That's not what I'm talking about. There are inventions
in
the works, and I don't have the details.



Yes, D'Plume. There are always inventions in the works that you arn't
privy of, however your statement at face value appears that you don't
have much of a clue about anything, which is also compatible with
your nature.

I said I didn't have the details, not that I wasn't "privy" to them. Sorry,
but I don't dance to your tune.



That makes you clueless, doesn't it.
Speaking of dancing. Did you catch Palin's daughter on Dancing with The Stars last night? Doesn't she have great legs? Too bad she can't dance well. Do you think she has enough fan base to keep her around for a few weeks?

Saw a clip of it this morning on the news. She really does suck at
dancing, the dude that got stuck with her must be ****ed And in my
opinion, her legs ain't that great either..

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

Quit chewing on someone else's bait. :-)

On Sep 21, 10:59*am, "Harry ?" wrote:
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wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:41:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Reducing the number of guns is one way to try and fix the ever
growing
gun
problem we have in this country.

The real question is how you would actually do that.

Education, regulation, biometric trigger locks...

That wouldn't reduce the number of guns and trigger locks are a
stupid
idea. It doesn't keep the gun from being stolen. a thief can defeat
it
easily and it only gives a kid a puzzle.
Education is probably the best solution.
That used to be what the NRA did. I was an instructor for a while
myself, before it all became a "them vs us" thing.

A biometric trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how.
I'd
be
curious to know.

Education and regulation would reduce the number of guns. People
should
be
required to take a class before purchasing a gun. Regulations should
be
enforced and expanded to improve gun quality/safety, and special
permits
should be required for certain types of weapons (some are already).

Can you share some information on these biometrics trigger locks..
I found something on fingerprint gun safes but that's not what you are
talking about

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/t...ks-unsafe-at-a...

That's correct. That's not what I'm talking about. There are inventions
in
the works, and I don't have the details.

Yes, D'Plume. There are always inventions in the works that you arn't
privy of, however your statement at face value appears that you don't
have much of a clue about anything, which is also *compatible with
your nature.

I said I didn't have the details, not that I wasn't "privy" to them. Sorry,
but I don't dance to your tune.

That makes you clueless, doesn't it.
Speaking of dancing. Did you catch Palin's daughter on Dancing with The Stars last night? Doesn't she have great legs? Too bad she can't dance well. Do you think she has enough fan base to keep her around for a few weeks?

Saw a clip of it this morning on the news. She really does suck at
dancing, the dude that got stuck with her must be ****ed And in my
opinion, her legs ain't that great either..

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

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OK dad...

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:41:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Reducing the number of guns is one way to try and fix the ever
growing
gun
problem we have in this country.

The real question is how you would actually do that.

Education, regulation, biometric trigger locks...

That wouldn't reduce the number of guns and trigger locks are a
stupid
idea. It doesn't keep the gun from being stolen. a thief can defeat
it
easily and it only gives a kid a puzzle.
Education is probably the best solution.
That used to be what the NRA did. I was an instructor for a while
myself, before it all became a "them vs us" thing.

A biometric trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how.
I'd
be
curious to know.

Education and regulation would reduce the number of guns. People
should
be
required to take a class before purchasing a gun. Regulations should
be
enforced and expanded to improve gun quality/safety, and special
permits
should be required for certain types of weapons (some are already).

Can you share some information on these biometrics trigger locks.
I found something on fingerprint gun safes but that's not what you are
talking about

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/t...ks-unsafe-at-a...

That's correct. That's not what I'm talking about. There are inventions
in
the works, and I don't have the details.

Yes, D'Plume. There are always inventions in the works that you arn't
privy of, however your statement at face value appears that you don't
have much of a clue about anything, which is also compatible with
your nature.

I said I didn't have the details, not that I wasn't "privy" to them. Sorry,
but I don't dance to your tune.

That makes you clueless, doesn't it.
Speaking of dancing. Did you catch Palin's daughter on Dancing with The Stars last night? Doesn't she have great legs? Too bad she can't dance well. Do you think she has enough fan base to keep her around for a few weeks?

Saw a clip of it this morning on the news. She really does suck at
dancing, the dude that got stuck with her must be ****ed And in my
opinion, her legs ain't that great either..

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

Quit chewing on someone else's bait. :-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK dad...


I wonder...when Palin's next daughter gets pregnant, will sarah invite
the young man to move into her daughter's bedroom, as she did with
Sprocket or whatever her name is?

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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:41:11 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Reducing the number of guns is one way to try and fix the ever
growing
gun
problem we have in this country.

The real question is how you would actually do that.

Education, regulation, biometric trigger locks...

That wouldn't reduce the number of guns and trigger locks are a
stupid
idea. It doesn't keep the gun from being stolen. a thief can defeat
it
easily and it only gives a kid a puzzle.
Education is probably the best solution.
That used to be what the NRA did. I was an instructor for a while
myself, before it all became a "them vs us" thing.

A biometric trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how.
I'd
be
curious to know.

Education and regulation would reduce the number of guns. People
should
be
required to take a class before purchasing a gun. Regulations should
be
enforced and expanded to improve gun quality/safety, and special
permits
should be required for certain types of weapons (some are already).

Can you share some information on these biometrics trigger locks.
I found something on fingerprint gun safes but that's not what you are
talking about

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/t...ks-unsafe-at-a...

That's correct. That's not what I'm talking about. There are inventions
in
the works, and I don't have the details.

Yes, D'Plume. There are always inventions in the works that you arn't
privy of, however your statement at face value appears that you don't
have much of a clue about anything, which is also compatible with
your nature.

I said I didn't have the details, not that I wasn't "privy" to them. Sorry,
but I don't dance to your tune.

That makes you clueless, doesn't it.
Speaking of dancing. Did you catch Palin's daughter on Dancing with The Stars last night? Doesn't she have great legs? Too bad she can't dance well. Do you think she has enough fan base to keep her around for a few weeks?

Saw a clip of it this morning on the news. She really does suck at
dancing, the dude that got stuck with her must be ****ed And in my
opinion, her legs ain't that great either..

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

Quit chewing on someone else's bait. :-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK dad...


I wonder...when Palin's next daughter gets pregnant, will sarah invite
the young man to move into her daughter's bedroom, as she did with
Sprocket or whatever her name is?


You gotta get over this fixation you have with Palin. She wouldn't give you the time of day, if she knew you existed.

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Reducing the number of guns is one way to try and fix the ever
growing
gun
problem we have in this country.

The real question is how you would actually do that.

Education, regulation, biometric trigger locks...

That wouldn't reduce the number of guns and trigger locks are a
stupid
idea. It doesn't keep the gun from being stolen. a thief can defeat
it
easily and it only gives a kid a puzzle.
Education is probably the best solution.
That used to be what the NRA did. I was an instructor for a while
myself, before it all became a "them vs us" thing.

A biometric trigger lock is not easy to defeat. Please tell us how.
I'd
be
curious to know.

Education and regulation would reduce the number of guns. People
should
be
required to take a class before purchasing a gun. Regulations should
be
enforced and expanded to improve gun quality/safety, and special
permits
should be required for certain types of weapons (some are already).

Can you share some information on these biometrics trigger locks.
I found something on fingerprint gun safes but that's not what you are
talking about

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/t...ks-unsafe-at-a...

That's correct. That's not what I'm talking about. There are inventions
in
the works, and I don't have the details.

Yes, D'Plume. There are always inventions in the works that you arn't
privy of, however your statement at face value appears that you don't
have much of a clue about anything, which is also *compatible with
your nature.

I said I didn't have the details, not that I wasn't "privy" to them. Sorry,
but I don't dance to your tune.

That makes you clueless, doesn't it.
Speaking of dancing. Did you catch Palin's daughter on Dancing with The Stars last night? Doesn't she have great legs? Too bad she can't dance well. Do you think she has enough fan base to keep her around for a few weeks?

Saw a clip of it this morning on the news. She really does suck at
dancing, the dude that got stuck with her must be ****ed And in my
opinion, her legs ain't that great either..

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

Quit chewing on someone else's bait. :-)- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

OK dad...

I wonder...when Palin's next daughter gets pregnant, will sarah invite
the young man to move into her daughter's bedroom, as she did with
Sprocket or whatever her name is?

You gotta get over this fixation you have with Palin. She wouldn't give you the time of day, if she knew you existed.- Hide quoted text -

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It's his fixation with little kids having sex that would bother me if
I were more local...