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... On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:34:07 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:41:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message m... On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:25:40 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: So you don't think Kim moving from WWII Soviet surplus Nagant rifles and a few aging migs to a nuke and a missile that they tested by shooting over Japan is troubling? That is not a worse situation? In spite of us keeping 50,000 troops there for 57 years. Did we make it better or worse. If we had just come home, they would have finished their civil war and followed the Chinese example of joining the world. I do think it's troubling, but since you're insistent about the specifics of military adventure, no deaths have occurred this year. As I said, we've pretty much kept the peace. They claim a lot, but they do very little. We may haver somewhat "kept the peace" if you considered Kim sinking a ship a couple months ago "peaceful" but strategically we lost ground. The regional threat is exponentially worse that it ever was. Even if Kim's bomb doesn't work, he can still contaminate a whole city with radiation and effectively destroy it. If that is Seoul it is horrible. If it is Tokyo it is a catastrophe Why would there be a difference in horribleness between the two? In any case, no Americans have died since 1953, which is what you were claiming as better off. No that was your criteria. By that standard we won in Vietnam. No Americans have died there since 1975 either and we didn't even have to spend a dime on an occupation. They are essentially demilitarized, not a nuclear state. Economically Vietnam is entering the world marketplace very quickly. Maybe that is the lesson we should take away from the difference in the two policies. I think that sometimes we should just step back and let these countries work out their own problems. You said (first, I might add)... The question is whether we are actually accomplishing anything or are we just prolonging a war for grand children to fight. We have been in Korea for almost 60 years and things are worse now than they were in 1953. There is no relevant equivalency with VN, since that was was lost, and we left. We have left S. Korea alone and only are there to ensure the North doesn't get overly aggressive. We've mostly succeeded. We have only succeeded in maintaining the DMZ we established in 1953.The threat form the north is exponentially greater than it was 57 years ago. It really does beg the question, what would have happened if we had just let the north win. Would communism have just collapsed like it has everywhere else where we ignore it? We seem to prolong the system when we fight it. Once we normalize relations the citizens start finding out what the rest of the world is doing and bring change from within. Satellites, cell phones and the internet seems to be a lot more powerful that guns and bombs. -- Me |
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